Travellers.......
Discussion
Colonial said:
bagusbagus said:
Yes they are... That's what they are actually called and refer to themselves as well!
For some odd reason people have started to call them ''travelers'' , Trust me they do not get offended if you call them what they are..
Other english people look at you weird if you use that word however...
Just some stupid stuff you have all come up with!
They are Gypsies...
They really aren't. For some odd reason people have started to call them ''travelers'' , Trust me they do not get offended if you call them what they are..
Other english people look at you weird if you use that word however...
Just some stupid stuff you have all come up with!
They are Gypsies...
It's nothing to do with offending them. It's to differentiate them from the Roma, who are actually an ethnic group.
To add insult to injury the Police were f***ing around with drones, and high tech toys in Brentwood and caught no-one.
They knew that these travellers were dumping waste 2 miles from their Police station in Basildon and weren't interested at all. When called about waste blowing into the road, they said they would attend to the waste in the road, but the fly tipping was a council matter.
It seems they are very selective how they apply the law!
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/15254687.Flytipper...
They knew that these travellers were dumping waste 2 miles from their Police station in Basildon and weren't interested at all. When called about waste blowing into the road, they said they would attend to the waste in the road, but the fly tipping was a council matter.
It seems they are very selective how they apply the law!
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/15254687.Flytipper...
alfie2244 said:
DoubleSix said:
Indeed. Very ignorant to confuse the modern plague of 'travelers' with the Romani Gypsies.
Ignorant indeed but to be fair I am not sure there are too may true Romanies left in the UK.Married into our family, had never slept in a house before meeting my aunt.
A true gentleman, softly spoken, very hard working and dedicated to his family.
CAPP0 said:
Well whaddya know. A Bank Holiday weekend looms and f
k me if they haven't pitched up in the village again.
This time they're camped on a field where an old couple (as in, mid-80s) have kept donkeys for as long as anyone can remember. Forever, basically. Certainly I've known of them being there for more than 30 years. Amazingly, thefilthy cheating stealing scumbag tnucs poor ,misunderstood ethnic wanderers happened to be passing at the one time ever that the wooden fence was "already broken down". What's incredible is that several people have testified that the fence was intact late afternoon today. Bit of luck that it just laid down and died as they arrived, huh?
There were two traffic cars there when I drove past, and several Transits parked on the green. Did they get an S.59 and/or told to move their vehicle off land which is not public highway? Did they fk. WHY are the police afraid and/or powerless to use simple basic laws which enable them to deal with at least that part of the offence?
At the last check, one person has reported that there is a dead dog in the village stream, and the aforementioned old couple are apparently sleeping on their field in their car tonight to try and protect their animals from being stolen, or worse.
Gah, I could rant about this all night. How ANYONE ever fell for them playing the ethnic card, which they simply latched on to in exactly the same way as they know how to play the welfare card, how to play the eviction laws for maximum stay, basically how to fk normal society over to the point where they really truly are do-as-you-likeys, with zero comeback other than having to break into somewhere else every 10 days or so, I will never ever understand. They are no more or less ethnic than I am, and I wouldn't get away with 0.1% of what they do.
Drove past earlier and they have clearly been broadcasting on Radio Traveller as the entire green is now covered in cntavans. They always know where to go for a Bank Holiday weekend, gives them an extra day before events most basic of proceedings are commenced. k me if they haven't pitched up in the village again.This time they're camped on a field where an old couple (as in, mid-80s) have kept donkeys for as long as anyone can remember. Forever, basically. Certainly I've known of them being there for more than 30 years. Amazingly, the
There were two traffic cars there when I drove past, and several Transits parked on the green. Did they get an S.59 and/or told to move their vehicle off land which is not public highway? Did they f
k. WHY are the police afraid and/or powerless to use simple basic laws which enable them to deal with at least that part of the offence?At the last check, one person has reported that there is a dead dog in the village stream, and the aforementioned old couple are apparently sleeping on their field in their car tonight to try and protect their animals from being stolen, or worse.
Gah, I could rant about this all night. How ANYONE ever fell for them playing the ethnic card, which they simply latched on to in exactly the same way as they know how to play the welfare card, how to play the eviction laws for maximum stay, basically how to f
k normal society over to the point where they really truly are do-as-you-likeys, with zero comeback other than having to break into somewhere else every 10 days or so, I will never ever understand. They are no more or less ethnic than I am, and I wouldn't get away with 0.1% of what they do.It's a simple, basic, oft-repeated statement but how on earth they are allowed to live an utterly lawless life in a country which espouses society, I have not the faintest idea.
CAPP0 said:
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It's a simple, basic, oft-repeated statement but how on earth they are allowed to live an utterly lawless life in a country which espouses society, I have not the faintest idea.
Agreed , they seem immune from prosecution , pay cash for everything even large purchases which we get refused in case we're laundering money , can you imagine anyone else dumping that amount of crap and the council saying it's OK we'll clean it up at the taxpayers expense.It's a simple, basic, oft-repeated statement but how on earth they are allowed to live an utterly lawless life in a country which espouses society, I have not the faintest idea.
CAPP0 said:
cntavans.
I see what you did there. 
Very good.
Two things. Phone in on local radio. Discussion about the poor misunderstood caravan dwellers, essentially around the matter of the offensiveness or otherwise of the p word to refer to the mathematical locksmiths.
Some guy from Gypsy council or other came on to rant about how it was offensive as the n word. Anyway the presenter to his credit hit him and asked the question about many of the points raised in this thread. Gypsy boy completely avoided the question, not even a token, oh look a squirrel defence, never condemned the sort who behaved like this.
Secondly to an earlier point about can get away with do as they likey. A few of the lovable scallywags have made an unofficial Motocross circuit on a part of the common. A part nature reserve, part SSSI. Rave around it hour after hour on scramble bikes. If we park our cars anywhere other than the designated spots, get a ticket, drive on the common, potential S59 awaits. That lot, nothing done.
Robertj21a said:
Simple question - WHY can't the appropriate laws be tightened to stop this silliness year after year ?
What is stopping a law change ? After all, we are supposed to live in a democracy and I'm fairly sure that the majority of voters would support legal action.
Slightly jaundiced view, but in the way this country operates, if such laws were passed the result would be as follows. What is stopping a law change ? After all, we are supposed to live in a democracy and I'm fairly sure that the majority of voters would support legal action.
1)The problem children would carry on as before.
2) Mr and Mrs Miggins, on their way to Bridlington with their tourer on the back, would be prosecuted for stopping in a lay-by for a refreshing cuppa and to let the dog out for a quick slash.
When they set up camp on a building site near my house I popped into the police station to see what was happening.
Police response - can't tell you, and can't even tell you if we know they are there.
OK, since you possibly don't know they are there can I report that they have broken into the site to set up camp (it was surrounded by fences and gates as the previous building had been demolished).
Police response - you cannot report it as you don't own the property.
I did suggest that logic meant that if I saw someone with a crowbar in a stripy jumper and a bag marked swag trying to prise open the door of the nearby Barclays Bank that I shouldn't bother reporting it to the police as I don't own Barclays, but the response from the police officer (we had escalated this past the civilian on the desk by this time) was a look like they were chewing a wasp.
Police response - can't tell you, and can't even tell you if we know they are there.
OK, since you possibly don't know they are there can I report that they have broken into the site to set up camp (it was surrounded by fences and gates as the previous building had been demolished).
Police response - you cannot report it as you don't own the property.
I did suggest that logic meant that if I saw someone with a crowbar in a stripy jumper and a bag marked swag trying to prise open the door of the nearby Barclays Bank that I shouldn't bother reporting it to the police as I don't own Barclays, but the response from the police officer (we had escalated this past the civilian on the desk by this time) was a look like they were chewing a wasp.
PF62 said:
When they set up camp on a building site near my house I popped into the police station to see what was happening.
Police response - can't tell you, and can't even tell you if we know they are there.
OK, since you possibly don't know they are there can I report that they have broken into the site to set up camp (it was surrounded by fences and gates as the previous building had been demolished).
Police response - you cannot report it as you don't own the property.
I did suggest that logic meant that if I saw someone with a crowbar in a stripy jumper and a bag marked swag trying to prise open the door of the nearby Barclays Bank that I shouldn't bother reporting it to the police as I don't own Barclays, but the response from the police officer (we had escalated this past the civilian on the desk by this time) was a look like they were chewing a wasp.
I think that by inference the only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that the police are actually in cahoots with that mob. Seems utterly bizarre to even think it (and of course it can't be the case….?) but what other explanation can there be?Police response - can't tell you, and can't even tell you if we know they are there.
OK, since you possibly don't know they are there can I report that they have broken into the site to set up camp (it was surrounded by fences and gates as the previous building had been demolished).
Police response - you cannot report it as you don't own the property.
I did suggest that logic meant that if I saw someone with a crowbar in a stripy jumper and a bag marked swag trying to prise open the door of the nearby Barclays Bank that I shouldn't bother reporting it to the police as I don't own Barclays, but the response from the police officer (we had escalated this past the civilian on the desk by this time) was a look like they were chewing a wasp.
CAPP0 said:
I think that by inference the only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that the police are actually in cahoots with that mob. Seems utterly bizarre to even think it (and of course it can't be the case….?) but what other explanation can there be?
I have a light haulage business, VOSA (as was) were all over me because I towed a trailer but they had selective vision with travellers when I saw them completely ignore a transit pickup that was on its knees piled 10ft high with crap CAPP0 said:
I think that by inference the only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that the police are actually in cahoots with that mob. Seems utterly bizarre to even think it (and of course it can't be the case….?) but what other explanation can there be?
Only things I can think of is there aren't enough Police to go on site and challenge a dozen travellers who have little respect for anything and will resort to violent behaviour if challenged.Second is the Police trying to prove anything against them, as they will all close ranks.
Another is the Police trying to track them down after they have left the site so they can secure a prosecution. Hard to catch a moving target.
The other one is that they will play the poor discriminated against "ethnic minority" card. The Police therefore chose to not enforce the law when travellers are concerned, they will just turn up with a note book and camera once they are gone, and make some notes. Tax payer pays for the bill until the next lot turn up.
The Police don't have the required powers to do their job when it comes to Travellers. Additionally, the law enforcement only acts as a deterrent for law abiding citizens. In other words, the Police are useless when it comes to dealing with Travellers, and a lot of the time I think they are scared of them too.
We had a family turn up on a field close to our house a couple of years ago. Police turned up and when told to f##k off by the cheeky scamps left with their tails between their legs.
On another occasion, a stolen/unregistered car was set alight at the bottom of our drive, the Police didn't want to come out. The fire crew who turned up to put the fire out rang the Police and insisted they attend. They did, eventually but clearly reluctantly.
Unless there is a sever change in the law, these scumbags will continue to do as they please.
We had a family turn up on a field close to our house a couple of years ago. Police turned up and when told to f##k off by the cheeky scamps left with their tails between their legs.
On another occasion, a stolen/unregistered car was set alight at the bottom of our drive, the Police didn't want to come out. The fire crew who turned up to put the fire out rang the Police and insisted they attend. They did, eventually but clearly reluctantly.
Unless there is a sever change in the law, these scumbags will continue to do as they please.
I do think the police are scared/reluctant to deal with them the same as law abiding people.
Although locally to me this happened
http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/175429/police-res...
But that was for slavery rather than anything else, be interesting to see what sticks in court.
Although locally to me this happened
http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/175429/police-res...
But that was for slavery rather than anything else, be interesting to see what sticks in court.
dudleybloke said:
If they don't obay the laws then I don't see why the police should protect them from nasty locals who might use the esox terminology.
I don't think the locals are as nasty as they think they are.Travellers may fight each other but if you stick your nose in they'll all turn on you and as we've discussed they seem immune to the law unlike the locals.
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