Travellers.......

[Hard-Drive]

fkers. Hate them. As an impoverished teenager I used to work at a group of back street garages next to a council tip and a 3.14key site. They used to break into the garages, steal power tools, and try and sell them to the public as they came into the tip under the premise of "this was thrown away but I am a charity worker and I have refurbished it and would you like it for a tenner?" They sometimes used to get us to work on their cars, nothing ever had a chassis number on needless to say.

I just don't get the mentality. I almost understand the attraction of the nomadic lifestyle, I just don't know why some have to be such fk-awful disrespectful scumbags along the way. There's plenty of people who travel the country with a backpack, a motorhome, a canal boat, a yacht or a new age hippy bus without having to make everyone else's life a complete misery or leave where they have been looking like an unhygienic hell hole.

[98elise]

austinsmirk said:

I work for a housing association and our head offices are in a semi rural setting.

Ironically one week it was "gypsy and traveller awareness week". This meant magazines, fact sheets, cook books and even themed food in the staff canteen, was kicking about in the building for a few weeks. Who dreams this stupid stuff up, I have no idea.

Now previously I've actually managed the staff, managing an official site: so I know exactly what we're dealing with here: I don't need some PC magazine spouting nonsense to pretend otherwise.

Now whilst all this PC stuff was happening: 2 caravans, plus vans, cars pitched up in a field opposite. Oh the irony ! they must have stayed put for about 4 weeks.

needless to say, when they left the volume of refuse left behind was staggering.

Bristol council are trying to educate people to combat the myths about travelers...

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/documents/20182/33135/M...

They are actually clean, lew abiding, tax payers just like the rest of society

[anonymous-user]

98elise said:

Bristol council are trying to educate people to combat the myths about travelers...

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/documents/20182/33135/M...

They are actually clean, lew abiding, tax payers just like the rest of society

Are they the same ones that invaded the Downs a couple of weeks ago ? Some traveller "queen" was ill in a Bristol hospital so they invaded the place.

[Supernova190188]

98elise said:

Bristol council are trying to educate people to combat the myths about travelers...

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/documents/20182/33135/M...

They are actually clean, lew abiding, tax payers just like the rest of society

Whoever wrote that load of ste has quite obviously lived a very sheltered life!
I can well imagine the instant they get they're hands on a bit of cash after flogging stuff the first thought must be about paying income tax on it.
How would they pay road tax anyway because where the hell would the vehicles be registered to?
Seriously this country pisses me off with all this lefty bks! What a waste of time and money.

[Oakey]

bobbo89 said:

Irrelevant now as they've moved on but...

As well as the muck spreading trick I've also heard it works to park a hearse with an empty coffin in it right outside their site. They're an incredibly superstitious bunch (especially the women) and apparently this'll have them hot-footing it fairly sharpish..

Could be complete bks though, never had travellers invade my land and I don't own a hearse..... or a coffin...or any land!

I'm sure the OP had a spare coffin and hearse lying around

[austinsmirk]

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/documents/20182/33135/M...


can you imagine the money, the hours, the meetings that have gone into producing this nonsense.

recently we've had to also put up with black awareness month and LGBT fortnight. FFS


this involved a bloke in a dress and a women dressed as a bloke, sat in the canteen all lunchtime in case anyone wanted to ask them a question.

also varying fat middle aged blokes in mirrored sunglasses, glitter wigs and t-shirts saying "I'm gay, get over it". I don't even know who they were !!!

at 12.00 on a lunchtime when all people want to do is eat a sandwich or have a dollop of some hot food.


I digress of course from the threads true nature but honestly.

[TEKNOPUG]

Supernova190188 said:

98elise said:

Bristol council are trying to educate people to combat the myths about travelers...

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/documents/20182/33135/M...

They are actually clean, lew abiding, tax payers just like the rest of society

Whoever wrote that load of ste has quite obviously lived a very sheltered life!
I can well imagine the instant they get they're hands on a bit of cash after flogging stuff the first thought must be about paying income tax on it.
How would they pay road tax anyway because where the hell would the vehicles be registered to?
Seriously this country pisses me off with all this lefty bks! What a waste of time and money.

"This leaflet was produced by a local group
of Gypsies, Travellers and settled people
with Bristol City Council."

[anonymous-user]

TEKNOPUG said:

"This leaflet was produced by a local group
of Gypsies, Travellers and settled people
with Bristol City Council."

and paid for by them ?

[Smokehead]

Ari said:

MDMA . said:

Here is the last van that got stripped -



I know someone who had the same problem on a field. Put a load of bales round the caravans and drenched them in diesel. They soon hitched up and left.

Curious, what's the yellow thing on the bonnet?

Custard.

[Alex_225]

That's a great result OP, glad that's all sorted and no damage was done (essentially).

I must say that of all the minorities/communities we have in this country, the 'Irish' travellers are the only people that I have zero time for. They're aggressive, unfriendly, arrogant, sly, untrustworthy and thieves. I have never ever heard a positive thing about them nor have I ever met or dealt with them in a positive way at all.

My mum used to run a charity shop for Marie Curie and the odd traveller family would come in, they had no hesitation in stealing from the shop. A bloody charity shop!!! Disgusting.

[TEKNOPUG]

Grahamdub said:

TEKNOPUG said:

"This leaflet was produced by a local group
of Gypsies, Travellers and settled people
with Bristol City Council."

and paid for by them ?

Of course, they are council tax payers after all - it says so in the leaflet!

[HTP99]

I used to work at a garage that had a traveller site backing onto it, frequently we would come in in the morning to find cars with smashed windows, upon cleaning up you would find pellets from air guns amongst the glass.

The dads would also race quad bikes around the area with 2 or three kids seated behind, occasionally they would race through our forecourt.

The daughter is a life guard at the local leisure centre, last week a few younger boys ran through the pool area, stripped off and got in the pool just as it was closing; they were "traveller" types, in the end they had to be threatened with the Police to get them out.

However, when you get into them and gain their trust they can be great people, the wife used to work at a nursery and a couple of the kids were from a traveller background, however they lived in a house, she became very friendly with the mothers, who were a great help when our dog was stolen.

Dog was stolen from our property one Saturday afternoon a couple of years ago well I say stolen, she just disappeared, the wife put something on FB one of the traveller mothers contacted the wife and said that her mother was high up in the traveller world and the word had been put out about our dog amongst the traveller community, our dog is very distinctive, subsequently the dog turned up out of the blue at an address 5 miles away, 24 hours after she went missing, minus her collar. The night that she went missing we were chatting to a friend who was a game keeper at the time; he has had many run ins with them, he said that if travellers are helping you get the dog back then we would definitely get her back.

[kennydies]

No One has every been able to tell me why laws can apply differently to different members of society.

If I have no tax/MOT/Insurance etc I would have a fine
If I parked in a car park and didn't buy a ticket I would get a fine.
If I broke into your land and stayed overnight without permission I would be arrested.
If I fly tipped I would be in court

But... If I turn up with 30 mates and say we are traveling the above does not seem to apply.

[Jader1973]

98elise said:

The funny thing is if I drove my car on to my neighbours land and shat in his garden, how long do you think it would be before I was arrested?

You could claim squatters rights.

[berlintaxi]

kennydies said:

No One has every been able to tell me why laws can apply differently to different members of society.

If I have no tax/MOT/Insurance etc I would have a fine
If I parked in a car park and didn't buy a ticket I would get a fine.
If I broke into your land and stayed overnight without permission I would be arrested.
If I fly tipped I would be in court

But... If I turn up with 30 mates and say we are traveling the above does not seem to apply.

Do you want the police to spend hours trying to track down people with no fixed addresses? There are plenty of house dwelling scumbags who behave in a similar manner and hide behind the no fixed abode ruse, scum are scum wherever they live.

[Rude-boy]

underwhelmist said:

alfie2244 said:

Indeed they do.

Yep, I quite often see a traditional Romany gypsy caravans, with horses tied up to graze nearby, on the wide verges next to the A-roads around Bromsgrove. They're not on anybody's land as far as I can tell and there never seems to be any rubbish left behind. I think there's definitely a distinction to be drawn.

Yep, often park up down the lanes between Bromsgrove and Droitwich.

Saw a family there a few weeks back, could of nags, old painted wagon and a couple of pop up tents for the two kids pitched right behind the wagon.

Come the Sunday evening the only sign there had been was a patch of flat grass and a patch of short grass where the nags had been.

[TEKNOPUG]

HTP99 said:

However, when you get into them and gain their trust they can be great people, the wife used to work at a nursery and a couple of the kids were from a traveller background, however they lived in a house, she became very friendly with the mothers, who were a great help when our dog was stolen.

Dog was stolen from our property one Saturday afternoon a couple of years ago well I say stolen, she just disappeared, the wife put something on FB one of the traveller mothers contacted the wife and said that her mother was high up in the traveller world and the word had been put out about our dog amongst the traveller community, our dog is very distinctive, subsequently the dog turned up out of the blue at an address 5 miles away, 24 hours after she went missing, minus her collar. The night that she went missing we were chatting to a friend who was a game keeper at the time; he has had many run ins with them, he said that if travellers are helping you get the dog back then we would definitely get her back.

But the dog was stolen by Travellers

So are you saying that Travellers can be great people because when Travellers steal your dog, Travellers help get it back...

[TEKNOPUG]

kennydies said:

No One has every been able to tell me why laws can apply differently to different members of society.

If I have no tax/MOT/Insurance etc I would have a fine
If I parked in a car park and didn't buy a ticket I would get a fine.
If I broke into your land and stayed overnight without permission I would be arrested.
If I fly tipped I would be in court

But... If I turn up with 30 mates and say we are traveling the above does not seem to apply.

That's because you have volunteered to allow yourself to be "Policed" and to be accountable to the law by having a fixed address, name on the election rolls, bank accounts, car insurance etc etc. You are fully signed up to society. So it's very easy to identify you and therefore very easy to apply the law to you.

If you choose to opt out of society then it becomes a lot harder to do so and there isn't the will or the resources to do so. So if you wish to do any of the things above, just become a "Traveller". Personally, I don't think it's a particularly great trade-off. And as others have said, there are plenty of none-traveller scumbags who play the "no fixed abode card". It helps with the petty crimes but it offers little protection for more serious crimes. BIB may not deem it worth the resources to raid a camp on suspected uninsured vehicles but they will if someone there is suspected of murder or serious assault.

It's a stty situation, I agree.

[anonymous-user]

"The system" is built for people who have some respect for it and live within its norms.

If you have no fixed abode and never fill a form in and simply dont give a fk there is just no way the system can handle it.


We'd have to move to a system of summary justice.

[HTP99]

TEKNOPUG said:

HTP99 said:

However, when you get into them and gain their trust they can be great people, the wife used to work at a nursery and a couple of the kids were from a traveller background, however they lived in a house, she became very friendly with the mothers, who were a great help when our dog was stolen.

Dog was stolen from our property one Saturday afternoon a couple of years ago well I say stolen, she just disappeared, the wife put something on FB one of the traveller mothers contacted the wife and said that her mother was high up in the traveller world and the word had been put out about our dog amongst the traveller community, our dog is very distinctive, subsequently the dog turned up out of the blue at an address 5 miles away, 24 hours after she went missing, minus her collar. The night that she went missing we were chatting to a friend who was a game keeper at the time; he has had many run ins with them, he said that if travellers are helping you get the dog back then we would definitely get her back.

But the dog was stolen by Travellers

So are you saying that Travellers can be great people because when Travellers steal your dog, Travellers help get it back...

Lol get your point, however we were told that it may have not been travellers who stole her, to put it simply, bad travellers know bad non travellers, the word may have got around the criminal community in general and there are non traveller criminals too, it doesn't make all non travellers criminals.

I picked her up from a rough area of the town that I live in; 5 miles away from where I live, it was a house and she and her family didn't appear to be "travellers", they were rough as fk though, I gave her a bottle of wine as a thanks then it occurred to me that I may have actually rewarded someone that was involved in the taking of my dog.