Would you buy a "Notorious" house/building ?
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A friend bought a house in Knutsford, close to the site of the old jail. One of the rooms was was meant to have been used by the executioner when he came to do his work.
She never saw anything or felt ill at ease but one room was always cold, summer or winter and despite having double glazing, the radiator was also too hot to touch, the room was the main room downstairs. She took a thermometer into the room, never more than 14 degrees when other rooms were around 22.
She stayed there 18 months and then moved, wanting a house where she could use every room.
She never saw anything or felt ill at ease but one room was always cold, summer or winter and despite having double glazing, the radiator was also too hot to touch, the room was the main room downstairs. She took a thermometer into the room, never more than 14 degrees when other rooms were around 22.
She stayed there 18 months and then moved, wanting a house where she could use every room.
Squirrelofwoe said:
lukefreeman said:
I'm more worried about the fact that million of years ago a Dinosaur probably died where my house is.
Which does raise the point why people never claim to see Dinosaur ghosts, or ghosts of our pre-historic ancestors etc. 
There's a 'notorious' house on my road, a few doors down from my house. A few years back, the owner committed suicide by throwing herself off the church tower opposite.
Subsequently, the house was sold, but the new owners claimed it was haunted to such an extent that they quickly moved out, and rented another house whilst they tried to sell it.
Eventually, it did sell, after a long time on the market, but at around £100k less than similar houses go for, way less than the asking price.
Subsequently, the house was sold, but the new owners claimed it was haunted to such an extent that they quickly moved out, and rented another house whilst they tried to sell it.
Eventually, it did sell, after a long time on the market, but at around £100k less than similar houses go for, way less than the asking price.
WCZ said:
Baz Tench said:
Well that's that then! Because someone on PH says so. 
If you disagree then feel free to prove otherwise, there are several unclaimed prizes for proof of paranormal existence. You'll be a multi-millionaire.I'd live in a notorious house because why not?
There were other things that happened too, but all in all, it's difficult to ignore the fact that the world we see day to day may not be all it seems.
I think it's pretty ignorant to just dismiss it all as nonsense, that or it's just more convenient for some to not have to think about it.
DrSteveBrule said:
Baz Tench said:
DrSteveBrule said:
First of all, ghosts and hauntings are the stuff of fantasy.
Well that's that then! Because someone on PH says so. But let's not turn this thread the way every religion thread goes.
Baz Tench said:
I think it's pretty ignorant to just dismiss it all as nonsense, that or it's just more convenient for some to not have to think about it.
Whilst I'm not a believer in specters or spooks in their traditional sense, I also don't believe it should all be dismissed as outright lunacy/hookum on the part of those who experience those things.In my opinion, some of those events not rationally explained by perfectly understood natural phenomenon are most likely psychological manifestations that the brain attempts to rationalise in a manner that fits within the confines of the understanding of the person(s) in question. (A bit like how in the past various natural occurrences were passed off as 'acts of God' as we had insufficient understanding of the environment to explain them in any other manner).
Our brains are capable of all kinds of things that are as yet relatively poorly understood. Sleep paralysis is one example where the brain is capable of manifesting something that feels incredibly real (and potentially terrifying). Lucid dreaming is another, so is the experience of deja vu. All products of the incredibly complex, yet not fully understood workings of the human brain.
All things considered, it seems pretty clear to me that it's simply our brains themselves, subject to the appropriate stimuli, that are responsible for much of the very crazy stuff some very rational people claim to have experienced.
Squirrelofwoe said:
lukefreeman said:
I'm more worried about the fact that million of years ago a Dinosaur probably died where my house is.
Which does raise the point why people never claim to see Dinosaur ghosts, or ghosts of our pre-historic ancestors etc. I didn't buy it, it was a cottage tied to a farm; had to be rented to and lived in by someone that worked on the farm, it was a peppercorn rent.
My friend used to collect the eggs from the chickens, as well as her main job; but was murdered on the driveway.
Her Husband never stayed there again and as my partner at the time worked in the farm, we were offered the cottage. To be fair, they had been planning on moving and the Farmer had already promised it to us, but still!
It took some deliberation over a lot of alcohol! And a number of conversations with her Husband & her family but we moved in with their blessing & one of her cats
I'd not say it was haunted, but it would go very cold if people she didn't like visited and a couple of times when I was alone musing on a problem I'd hear her tell me to talk to someone about it, and a short time later they'd arrive at the door
My friend used to collect the eggs from the chickens, as well as her main job; but was murdered on the driveway.
Her Husband never stayed there again and as my partner at the time worked in the farm, we were offered the cottage. To be fair, they had been planning on moving and the Farmer had already promised it to us, but still!
It took some deliberation over a lot of alcohol! And a number of conversations with her Husband & her family but we moved in with their blessing & one of her cats
I'd not say it was haunted, but it would go very cold if people she didn't like visited and a couple of times when I was alone musing on a problem I'd hear her tell me to talk to someone about it, and a short time later they'd arrive at the door
Two of the last owners died in our house. We've heard too many things, the remote always putting itself in a certain place (we are lazy and forever dropping it behind cushions, in the sofa then asking/blaming each other) so suddenly it started appearing in the exact spot when we went to find it.
Of course its all rubbish as a massive galaxy with the minds capacity and still many things beyond our understanding. We are still driving around on rubber circles on fossil fuel 120yrs on yet ghost sceptics think 'we' are advanced enough to debunk ghosts etc existence..
Every time we have an 'occurence' we just pop it in the 'hmmmm' box
Of course its all rubbish as a massive galaxy with the minds capacity and still many things beyond our understanding. We are still driving around on rubber circles on fossil fuel 120yrs on yet ghost sceptics think 'we' are advanced enough to debunk ghosts etc existence..
Every time we have an 'occurence' we just pop it in the 'hmmmm' box
Jimmy Recard said:
I remember the last thread when someone claimed to know about the paranormal and was offered thousands of pounds for some evidence.
I bet this will be just as forthcoming
The local vicar ran out of my sister's house and refused to come back. He said it was too much for him... My niece, as a 2-4 year old, used to talk about the lovely lady who watched over her at night.......I bet this will be just as forthcoming
d. 
Another one, which I only found out about a few years ago.
I live alone, and was due to work away. One of mates offered to look after the house for me while I was away. It worked for both of us, but especially well for him as his girlfriend who he wanted to keep an eye on for some reason lived opposite me.
He swears that he was lying in my bed one night and was spun around by something, full 180 degrees and a female voice told him to 'get out!'
I live alone, and was due to work away. One of mates offered to look after the house for me while I was away. It worked for both of us, but especially well for him as his girlfriend who he wanted to keep an eye on for some reason lived opposite me.
He swears that he was lying in my bed one night and was spun around by something, full 180 degrees and a female voice told him to 'get out!'
Went to view my first ever house in mk with the then ex g/f every thing looked great New build i asked why the back garden looked like a bomb had hit it,estate agent said right i was just getting to that and by law i have to tell you what happend.Family with two young kids that lived here he was a policeman killed his wife and kids buried them in the garden and put a rope to his neck in the garage and commited suicide.Ex was not happy but it did not bother me as the price was very good,we did not buy it.
ApOrbital said:
Went to view my first ever house in mk with the then ex g/f every thing looked great New build i asked why the back garden looked like a bomb had hit it,estate agent said right i was just getting to that and by law i have to tell you what happend.Family with two young kids that lived here he was a policeman killed his wife and kids buried them in the garden and put a rope to his neck in the garage and commited suicide.Ex was not happy but it did not bother me as the price was very good,we did not buy it.
I worked on that job. Tragic. He went into work for several days while his wife was under the patio before he killed himself. IIRC, he gassed himself rather than hanging.Edited by Carnage on Wednesday 19th October 20:08
I once had to visit a house where there had been a multiple murder. The mother of the family still lived there.
What got me was that it was so normal. A nice well kept house clean cozy and safe feeling. The householder was a kind gentle woman. She made me tea and biscuits.
I really don't know what I was expecting. The only suggestion that something had happened was the smell. The house had new carpets with that rubbery smell that lasts a few weeks after they are laid.
Could I have lived there? Knowing what I know, probably not.
Slightly off topic....
Another 'notorious' house is not too far from where I live.
It's a new build. One of I think three in a Terrace. The chap who lives there lived in the building that stood there before. It was destroyed by a gas explosion which killed his wife. When the house and the neighbouring properties were rebuilt I read in the paper he wanted to move back. I can see why.
The house that was destroyed in the gas blast was a 1950s built property. It replaced a house that took a direct hit from a Luftwaffe bomb in I think 1941.
What are the chances of that?
A family member has an 1840 built house which is along with others on an ancient monastic graveyard.
In the 1970s an extension was being built and a skeleton was discovered. It was left in situ but before the concrete was poured over it a friendly priest said some Latin stuff over the remains. Probably illegal as I guess the coroner would have to be informed. Whoever he was he lies six feet under the bath now.
At around the same time building work was taking place at a neighbouring property where a lead lined coffin was found in the wall of the cellar.
I'd have no hesitation living there.
My old house was built in 2000 on the site of a former Victorian hospital and workhouse. I did look up the plans for the old building and was happy to find my house had been nurses accommodation rather than the morgue. It was a great house with no bad atmosphere at all. I learnt after I left that several residents alleged hauntings and other odd things. I really doubt it. The guy who told me was the ex-vicar for the area. People had approached him for exorcisms or something similar to bring peace to the house.
I'm happy to say the house I now live in has been owned by my family for more than 30 years. It was built in 1901 and we bought it from the elderly daughter of the man who had it built. I know the names of everyone who has ever lived here. I remember the old lady assuring me when I was a kid that nothing bad had ever happened here and the only deaths had been pet dogs which in the last 30-odd years we have added to.
I'm sceptical about stuff like this but the house definitely has an atmosphere about it. A good atmosphere. Friendly warm and happy.
What got me was that it was so normal. A nice well kept house clean cozy and safe feeling. The householder was a kind gentle woman. She made me tea and biscuits.
I really don't know what I was expecting. The only suggestion that something had happened was the smell. The house had new carpets with that rubbery smell that lasts a few weeks after they are laid.
Could I have lived there? Knowing what I know, probably not.
Slightly off topic....
Another 'notorious' house is not too far from where I live.
It's a new build. One of I think three in a Terrace. The chap who lives there lived in the building that stood there before. It was destroyed by a gas explosion which killed his wife. When the house and the neighbouring properties were rebuilt I read in the paper he wanted to move back. I can see why.
The house that was destroyed in the gas blast was a 1950s built property. It replaced a house that took a direct hit from a Luftwaffe bomb in I think 1941.
What are the chances of that?
A family member has an 1840 built house which is along with others on an ancient monastic graveyard.
In the 1970s an extension was being built and a skeleton was discovered. It was left in situ but before the concrete was poured over it a friendly priest said some Latin stuff over the remains. Probably illegal as I guess the coroner would have to be informed. Whoever he was he lies six feet under the bath now.
At around the same time building work was taking place at a neighbouring property where a lead lined coffin was found in the wall of the cellar.
I'd have no hesitation living there.
My old house was built in 2000 on the site of a former Victorian hospital and workhouse. I did look up the plans for the old building and was happy to find my house had been nurses accommodation rather than the morgue. It was a great house with no bad atmosphere at all. I learnt after I left that several residents alleged hauntings and other odd things. I really doubt it. The guy who told me was the ex-vicar for the area. People had approached him for exorcisms or something similar to bring peace to the house.
I'm happy to say the house I now live in has been owned by my family for more than 30 years. It was built in 1901 and we bought it from the elderly daughter of the man who had it built. I know the names of everyone who has ever lived here. I remember the old lady assuring me when I was a kid that nothing bad had ever happened here and the only deaths had been pet dogs which in the last 30-odd years we have added to.
I'm sceptical about stuff like this but the house definitely has an atmosphere about it. A good atmosphere. Friendly warm and happy.
Carnage said:
ApOrbital said:
Went to view my first ever house in mk with the then ex g/f every thing looked great New build i asked why the back garden looked like a bomb had hit it,estate agent said right i was just getting to that and by law i have to tell you what happend.Family with two young kids that lived here he was a policeman killed his wife and kids buried them in the garden and put a rope to his neck in the garage and commited suicide.Ex was not happy but it did not bother me as the price was very good,we did not buy it.
I worked on that job. Tragic. He went into work for several days while his wife was under the patio before he killed himself. IIRC, he gassed himself rather than hanging.Edited by Carnage on Wednesday 19th October 20:08
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