Dodging Rounds

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Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Nanook said:
Tonsko said:
Nope, I don't follow, sorry.
What part?

She wasn't drinking, didn't order a coke, just ordered a pint anyway while someone else was paying, and gave it to her friend.

Not on, in my book.
Simply didn't pick that up, despite a few reads through. Couldn't parse it silly

Nezquick

1,461 posts

126 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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This is very much along the same lines of having a party at your house or going to a party where people are told to bring along their own drinks for the evening.

You always, and I mean ALWAYS, get one tt who will bring 4 cans of Carling or whatever other crap they can find on offer, put it in the fridge and then proceed to drink the good lager which you or others have bought. At the end of the night, lo and behold, 4 cans of Carling left in the fridge.

Or the person who brings a bottle of cheap wine and then opens your good bottle as theirs "isn't chilled".

Shnozz

27,484 posts

271 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Adam B

27,256 posts

254 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Centurion07 said:
Apparently. biggrin
Don't worry Centurion - the social crime of playing cheap drink/expensive drink is bloody obvious. I switch from pints to large spirits later in evening (so £8 rather than £5), I am fully aware of it so get an extra round in to compensate.

I don't understand why people (including many on here) tolerate such behaviour from friends. Anyone in my social group round dodging would get bloody short shrift. All my mates pitch in and go out of there way to do so, we split meal bills equally (no drivers) regardless as it all evens out over time because no one takes the piss

RizzoTheRat

25,169 posts

192 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Nezquick said:
This is very much along the same lines of having a party at your house or going to a party where people are told to bring along their own drinks for the evening.

You always, and I mean ALWAYS, get one tt who will bring 4 cans of Carling or whatever other crap they can find on offer, put it in the fridge and then proceed to drink the good lager which you or others have bought. At the end of the night, lo and behold, 4 cans of Carling left in the fridge.

Or the person who brings a bottle of cheap wine and then opens your good bottle as theirs "isn't chilled".
That can sometimes work though, some years back we went to a "Scottish themed" party. One bloke brought along 4 cans of Tesco value lager, drank plenty of beer all night, and the 4 cans of Tesco Value were still in the fridge at the end of the night. Very much in keeping with the theme biggrin (yeha yeah, stereotypes, racism, etc...)

ChunkyloverSV

1,333 posts

192 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Met a few types like this I do not socialise with them anymore.

Calculator at meals, always saying they will buy a round later and going home before they do. First in the taxi and first out, driving you all to the cinema intentionally only taking £1 so each passenger has to chip in so they can watch the film. Ordering glasses on wine to the table then claiming they have not. Every time you go out for a meal the bill is always short even though you have over paid.


J4CKO

41,597 posts

200 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Actually, can include my wife in this, apparently it is my job to go to the bar, pay for it and deliver it !

She seems to think I have loads more money than her as I earn a lot more but seems to forget that I pay all the bills, all the food and all the car expenses which kind of evens it up a bit.

AdeTuono

7,254 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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PurpleTurtle said:
As I was reading your original post I was thinking "Blimey, wonder how long this marriage will last .... "

I got stung on a much lesser scale at our wedding. We had a band playing, who I had found playing the ski bar circuit in the Alps and happened to be based local to us in the UK. Great bunch of lads, so after they'd set-up and soundchecked I let them know via my best man and twin brother that there was a tab behind the bar for the band

At the end of the night we came to leave the venue, a barn in the middle of nowhere with a midnight curfew and 50+ people waiting on a coach I'd laid on back to the hotel I was presented with an itemised bar tab for £387! Not really much time for me to stand there and argue over the small print with all those people waiting and I couldn't really disprove it. The band had only had a few pints (one of them was driving) so I did a double take, then looking at the amount of Jager/Tequila on there realised that the message had somehow got, ahem, 'lost in translation' and my mates had weighed in on the 'tab behind the bar for everyone!'
50+ people, an open bar and only £387? You weren't stung; you were barely caressed.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Toyoda said:
I hear what you're saying but it doesn't matter what they order themselves, as long as you order yourself an expensive premium beer on their round.
It kinda does though. If you went into 8 rounds and they would normally only drink say 4 pints during the course of the night:

They could order halves on each round to ensure that the cost of their 4 pints is spread evenly.

They could ensure that instead of you buying them all 4 pints - you buy them 2 and 2 cokes (with them paying for the other two pints and cokes)

By intentionally skipping an alcoholic drink on each of their rounds - they are making sure that all of the burden of cost for their alcohol consumption falls to you. You might get the same number of drinks in return - regardless of which method is chosen above - but your overall bill for the night will be higher due to their intentional actions.


Edited by Moonhawk on Thursday 1st December 16:29

AdeTuono

7,254 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Moonhawk said:
Toyoda said:
I hear what you're saying but it doesn't matter what they order themselves, as long as you order yourself an expensive premium beer on their round.
It kinda does though. If you went into 8 rounds and they would normally only drink say 4 pints during the course of the night:

They could order halves on each round to ensure that the cost of their 4 pints is spread evenly.

They could ensure that instead of you buying them all 4 pints - you buy them 2 and 2 cokes (with them paying for the other two pints and cokes)

By intentionally skipping an alcoholic drink on each of their rounds - they are making sure that all of the burden of cost for their alcohol consumption falls to you. You might get the same number of drinks in return - regardless of which method is chosen above - but your overall bill for the night will be higher due to their intentional actions.
The above post really should be read in an adenoidal voice....

BuzzBravado

2,944 posts

171 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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ChunkyloverSV said:
Every time you go out for a meal the bill is always short even though you have over paid.
Glad i'm not the only one. Of course muggins here gets bored with people arguing over it so i chuck in even more money to shut people up and move on with the night.

Northbloke

643 posts

219 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Nezquick said:
You always, and I mean ALWAYS, get one tt who will bring 4 cans of Carling or whatever other crap they can find on offer, put it in the fridge and then proceed to drink the good lager which you or others have bought. At the end of the night, lo and behold, 4 cans of Carling left in the fridge.
Well I've had that with the added bonus of said bloke then says, "well if no-one's drunk these I may as well take them home again" and does! No, not invited again.

Don't know why folk do it. Every bloke has beer antennae that subconsciously spots any out of order behaviour and marks it down accordingly. I bet you could go through all your pals and know who is always first to the bar and who misses out when he can. And all for what, save say £50 over a year in exchange for getting a reputation as a skinflint, not invited to stuff etc. Just ain't worth it even if you were that way inclined.

Get yourself first to the bar, that's what money's for.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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AdeTuono said:
The above post really should be read in an adenoidal voice....
If you insist - doesn't change the fact that somebody doing what was discussed is clearly taking the piss if they do it all the time.

My wife went out with a girl once who took it to the extreme - every round my wife bought she wanted a double baileys - but every time it was her round - she had tap water. Wife never went out with her again.

Edited by Moonhawk on Thursday 1st December 16:53

paulwirral

3,148 posts

135 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Sorry , explaining better would be basically " hi girls , can I get you a drink " to which the non drinking driver replies " thanks , we'll have 2 pints of lager , but my friend will drink both as I'm not drinking " I just thought it was cheeky , I wouldn't dream of doing it .

RizzoTheRat

25,169 posts

192 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Moonhawk said:
If you insist - doesn't change the fact that somebody doing what was discussed is clearly taking the piss if they do it all the time.

My wife went out with a girl once who took it to the extreme - every round my wife bought she wanted a double baileys - but every time it was her round - she had tap water. Wife never went out with her again.
I genuinely don't understand the issue with this. If they got through 4 rounds then your wife will have bought 4 drinks and drunk 4 drinks, while her friend will have bought 2 drinks and drunk 2 drinks. How is this in any way unfair on your wife?
What do you consider fairer:
-Each buy 4 drinks, and the friend leave 2 of them undrunk?
-Each buy 3 drinks and your wife drinks 4 and the friend drinks 2?
-They each buy thier own drinks so your wife buys and drink 4 while the friend buys and drinks 2?

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Thursday 1st December 17:21

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Actually, I can see both sides of it.

On the one hand you're^ right; you have been reimbursed, drink for drink.

On the other, the total drinks bill for the night comes to, say, £70 between 2, yet one is paying £30 and the other £40.

As I said earlier, why not order the cheaper drinks when it's someone else's turn to pay?

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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RizzoTheRat said:
I genuinely don't understand the issue with this. If they got through 4 rounds then your wife will have bought 4 drinks and drunk 4 drinks, while her friend will have bought 2 drinks and drunk 2 drinks. How is this in any way unfair on your wife?
What do you consider fairer:
-Each buy 4 drinks, and the friend leave 2 of them undrunk?
-Each buy 3 drinks and your wife drinks 4 and the friend drinks 3?
-They each buy thier own drinks so your wife buys and drink 4 while the friend buys and drinks 2?
I suppose so - hadn't really thought about it like that. It just strikes me as odd behaviour, even if the costs ultimately works out the same.

It does of course assume the drinks are of equivalent value - but for the sake of argument I'm happy to accept they were in this case.

Northbloke

643 posts

219 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Moonhawk said:
I suppose so - hadn't really thought about it like that.
Careful, that reads suspiciously like you may change your mind based on something you read on the internet.

I'm not sure that's allowed. wink

RizzoTheRat

25,169 posts

192 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Moonhawk said:
It does of course assume the drinks are of equivalent value - but for the sake of argument I'm happy to accept they were in this case.
Yeah, ordering a double on the other round and a water on your own, while the other person is having singles would be taking the piss.

If one of you wants to drink more than the other it seems a pretty sensible way to do it to be honest

Mind you depending were I am I might be drinking 10-12% Belgian beers while mates are on 4% lager, I'll skip rounds as there's no way I'll keep up with them, so hopefully it all evens out in the end but if it doesn't it's their own fault for drinking fizzy piss instead of beer biggrin

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Thursday 1st December 17:46

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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RizzoTheRat said:
Moonhawk said:
If you insist - doesn't change the fact that somebody doing what was discussed is clearly taking the piss if they do it all the time.

My wife went out with a girl once who took it to the extreme - every round my wife bought she wanted a double baileys - but every time it was her round - she had tap water. Wife never went out with her again.
I genuinely don't understand the issue with this. If they got through 4 rounds then your wife will have bought 4 drinks and drunk 4 drinks, while her friend will have bought 2 drinks and drunk 2 drinks. How is this in any way unfair on your wife?
I think the issue is the intention; as seen here, whether there is an actual monetary gain is negligible, bit there is a perception of monetary gain. You can be damn sure that the round-dodger/round-player also thinks they're on to a monetary gain, so their attitude is one of actively trying to take advantage of people who are supposed to be their friends.

They may not be too good at it in this case, but are they trying to take advantage elsewhere within the friendship? Ultimately you've got to question whether they're the type of person you want to be friends with.