Do you use a fountain pen?

Do you use a fountain pen?

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RizzoTheRat

25,190 posts

193 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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99p is for cartridges, select a pen and it goes up to £1.60, that's the seller I used though.

The X450 is my favorite Jinhao so far and this one looks like a slightly smaller and lighter version so I expect to like it.

Robbo 27

3,648 posts

100 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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RizzoTheRat said:
99p is for cartridges, select a pen and it goes up to £1.60, that's the seller I used though.

The X450 is my favorite Jinhao so far and this one looks like a slightly smaller and lighter version so I expect to like it.
sorry Rizzo, I was fooled by the headline

RizzoTheRat

25,190 posts

193 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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Robbo 27 said:
sorry Rizzo, I was fooled by the headline
Me too until I selected one. Quite a few sellers seem to do this so they come first in the listing if you sort by price but aren't necessarily the cheapest once you've selected what you want.

AlexC1981

4,926 posts

218 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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A very classy looking pen those 992's. I want one in "transparent coffee" or "transparent black", but they all appear to be the 0.5mm Fine nib. No mediums. I also like the solid green. A solid teal would look good if they did it.

AlexC1981

4,926 posts

218 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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Robbo 27 said:
If you are looking for something different there is an English pen maker called the Worcester Pen Company, worth having a look, they are not too expensive

http://worcesterpencompany.co.uk/
He needs some photos on his website to show them off. I found a review by Steph on youtube and I can see they are lovely. If it wasn't for that video, I'd never know!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1aeRZTXetU


julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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julian64 said:
Sorry can't post a picture at work but its the same colour gold but has longitudinal lines/grooves up it, and yes it is missing any filler apart from using cartridges and the arrow is missing. Its in a nice box though smile


This is the pen. I think its a standard signet, you can see the longitudinal lines. I think I'm going to look into how to clean it up a bit, replace the arrow and buy the filler cupcake suggests (thanks for that).

Two quick questions though. What does the symbol on the cap mean



and why is there a gap on the surface of the pen. It looks like a gap for an inscription?




AlexC1981

4,926 posts

218 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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That should look nice when you have got it up and running. The markings mean 12 Carat Rolled Gold. The 1/10 means one tenth of the weight of the metal is gold. The gap in the finish is for an engraving.

Robbo 27

3,648 posts

100 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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When you clean it up you will need to remember that the gold plating is very very thin. No abrasive polish, just a soft cloth, perhaps some household spray polish is all you need.

The replacement of the arrow/dart is almost impossible, have a go if you want by all means, clean out the recess and a tiny amount of adhesive. I havent seen anyone go a good job however. If you are the first please let us know how you did it.

If it doesnt work you can always smooth out the recess.

I cannot remember the filler on your 61. the early 61s had a fixed capillary filler, the later ones will take a Partker converter/filler or a cartridge.

The pen will probably need a lot of flushing through with water, I suggest that you do that before you fix the arrow.

Best of Luck

Edited by Robbo 27 on Saturday 29th April 13:30

Robbo 27

3,648 posts

100 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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AlexC1981 said:
He needs some photos on his website to show them off. I found a review by Steph on youtube and I can see they are lovely. If it wasn't for that video, I'd never know!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1aeRZTXetU
I know what you mean, the pens are better in real life than on the screen. He is one of the few pen makers to polish his pens with 12000 mesh paper.

ClockworkCupcake

74,598 posts

273 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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RizzoTheRat said:
The X450 is my favorite Jinhao so far and this one looks like a slightly smaller and lighter version so I expect to like it.
I prefer the X750 to the X450, but have just ordered a 992 for £1.60 in plain black because why not. smile

Robbo 27

3,648 posts

100 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Started using a Jinhao this morning and thought I would ink a Montblanc 149 to compare the two

The Jinhao is availble at less than £5, the Montblanc will cost £650. The quality of the materials and build quality between the two is substantial, everything works beautifully on the MB, no slack, just precise movements. It isnt a robust pen there is a delicate screw threaded rod to move the piston which has been known to break you are also aware that the plastic is easily scratched and is going to be expensive to repair.

The Jinhao is robust and tough, every part can be taken apart and refixed if there is a problem, I dont look after it and it might even look better with some wear and tear.

The writing experience between the two is much closer. Both feel very similar in use. I have twaeked the nib on the 159 so that the flow and smoothness is right for me. The nib is two sizes smaller than the nib but the experience of the nib on the paper is very similar.

The MB was a gift in 2010, it was filled twice and put away, comes out infrequently, for me £650 is too much to spend on a pen and I couldnt justify the price over much cheaper pens.

I dont miss the fiver I spent on the Jinhao and would do so again.

motco

15,965 posts

247 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Robbo 27 said:
The MB was a gift in 2010, it was filled twice and put away, comes out infrequently, for me £650 is too much to spend on a pen and I couldnt justify the price over much cheaper pens.

I dont miss the fiver I spent on the Jinhao and would do so again.
I think this is the point for me too (no pun etc.). It's like watches; if they do the simple thing that they are designed to do well, then a penny more in cost is vanity, not logic. I know it goes against the opinions of many on PH, but if a £20 Casio is as accurate as the most expensive Rolex, or other expensive watch, then how can anyone justify spending more? Likewise with pens - they write smoothly and reliably for a fiver! What more should they do that justifies even a tenner, let alone hundreds? Just my personal view - other views are available...

getmecoat

RizzoTheRat

25,190 posts

193 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
I prefer the X750 to the X450, but have just ordered a 992 for £1.60 in plain black because why not. smile
I've got an X750 on order but it's not arrive yet




Well I succumbed to temptation and went back to P W Akkerman for one of their ink bottles, just look at it, it's a thing of beauty. Only the royal blue is washable, so I figured I should go for that for safety sake biggrin Having spotted I wasn't local he asked if I was travelling with the bottle, so he taped the cap and put a foam insert in the box to make it nice and secure for flying home.



But holy crap if any of you pen fans are ever in The Hague you really need to visit this shop, I don't know enough about pens to even know where to start, they must have thousands, and not all crazy expensive stuff either, he had Lammy Safari's and even some Heros (clones of one of the hooded parkers, 61?), but then also had a lot of stuff with 4 digit price tags.

I'm rather liking these


Until I saw the price...

http://www.vulpennen.nl/en/merken/s.t.-dupont/le-d...

http://www.vulpennen.nl/en/merken/s.t.-dupont/le-d...

ETA: that's £300 cheaper than Amazon though yikes


Edited by RizzoTheRat on Saturday 29th April 16:09

Robbo 27

3,648 posts

100 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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RizzoTheRat said:
I've got an X750 on order but it's not arrive yet




Well I succumbed to temptation and went back to P W Akkerman for one of their in bottles, just look at it, it's a think of beauty



But holy crap if any of you pen fans are ever in The Hague you really need to visit this shop, I don't know enough about pens to even know where to start, they must have thousands, and not all crazy expensive stuff either, he had Lammy Safari's and even some Heros (clones of one of the hooded parkers, 61?), but then also had a lot of stuff with 4 digit price tags.

I'm rather liking these

Until I saw the price...
I would have bought a bottle too, I havent seen them on sale anywhere else.

The Heros are clones of the Parker 51, they are very low priced, available on ebay at £1 but QC is terrible, some work ok, others not at all.

Cannot think of any English shop which matches your shop, there is another in Zurich which is pretty good.

https://www.landolt-arbenz.ch/

ClockworkCupcake

74,598 posts

273 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Yes, the Hero 616 is a copy of the Parker 51. I have one, and the quality is pretty bad and ropey. I'm not impressed with either of the Hero pens that I have.

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1,741 posts

119 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Loving my first stub nib. I think a 0.8mm would be a great daily writer.




Robbo 27

3,648 posts

100 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Loving my first stub nib. I think a 0.8mm would be a great daily writer.



Great shading on that ink.

Do you know about these people

http://www.pelikanpens.co.uk/acatalog/Fountain-Pen...

specialists in Pelikan nibs including exchanges?

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119 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Robbo 27 said:
Great shading on that ink.

Do you know about these people

http://www.pelikanpens.co.uk/acatalog/Fountain-Pen...

specialists in Pelikan nibs including exchanges?
No I didn't know about them but I was thinking that John S could custom grind my nib. The trouble is that my Pelikan is a "fine" nib (even though it writes wet and more like a medium) so there may not be enough tipping to turn it into a 0.8mm stub. I may be able to get a 0.5mm out of it though.

The ink is called Yami-Dori, made by Sailor smile

Robbo 27

3,648 posts

100 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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No I didn't know about them but I was thinking that John S could custom grind my nib. The trouble is that my Pelikan is a "fine" nib (even though it writes wet and more like a medium) so there may not be enough tipping to turn it into a 0.8mm stub. I may be able to get a 0.5mm out of it though.

The ink is called Yami-Dori, made by Sailor smile
As I recall you have a special requirement in terms of your nibs, on that basis I think that John is the best choice, I saw him working at the beginning of April, the standard line from people coming away from his workshop was - I cannot believe the difference.

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119 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Robbo 27 said:
As I recall you have a special requirement in terms of your nibs, on that basis I think that John is the best choice, I saw him working at the beginning of April, the standard line from people coming away from his workshop was - I cannot believe the difference.
Yeah I need to have it slightly right-obliqued due to my left handed angle. Also that website you linked, with their custom grind service, they only do it if you purchase a brand new pen/nib unit with them.

I've sent an email to John.... I expect it'll cost around £50 to have my Pelikan nib ground to a custom cursive italic.