Modern single women
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Cold said:
Emily Hart on that ^^^ YouTube video is a comedienne/presenter/vlogger. Don't take her videos too literally as she's doing it for the laughs and the clicks. She's quite funny in her own way and often includes her long suffering sisters in her videos.
yeah I know who she is to be fair. She's a "YouTuber" who, lives in London, is seemingly out partying multiple times a week, doesn't appear to have a normal (even part time) job to supplement her income. Goes on holidays a lot and VLogs them. Never knew you could get so much money from a video a week. But then it turns out she's the daughter of the owner of Hartridges brewing company. (whoever they are) So clearly she doesn't have the same money constraints the rest of us have. I daresay that fuels her dislike of middle earners. "I need to be kept in the manner to which I have become accustomed" 
Ari said:
technodup said:
I'm 38 and really can't be arsed with it. At all.
I've fannied about with POF etc but have come to the conclusion they're either too young, dumb and full of cum or they're older and carrying all sorts of baggage. Kids mostly. Which I'm not interested in, especially other people's.
Not sure what the answer is.
How very dare these women have lives before meeting you! I've fannied about with POF etc but have come to the conclusion they're either too young, dumb and full of cum or they're older and carrying all sorts of baggage. Kids mostly. Which I'm not interested in, especially other people's.
Not sure what the answer is.
Dear oh dear. Get real.
Ari said:
I'm not saying date a munter. But maybe try going out with women who are a little more normal and down to earth.
I think there's a difference between expecting a Victorias Secret model. And what a sizeable (SWIDT? 
) percentage of women over 30 look like. As someone who is sporty. I do aim for sporty type girls for the commonalities. And also cause they are less likely to be on the large side Yipper said:
Women have f*nny and b**bs and know they can do whatever they want. They watch Sex and the City or listen to Beyoncé and get carried away.
Ironic given beyonce is much younger than JayZ who lets be honest is an ugly b
d. I don't know anything about them really. But it doesn't strike me as being about money for either of them. Since they are both OK for funds. They've been married for years afaik. These modern women are just focusing on his money and not that they have built something (seemingly) solid over years.The Moose said:
I did try to set her up with a good friend of mine who is a really good bloke but as he wasn't quite tall enough for her...
Being in this situation they then decide to take the decision that they'll be 'career women' and that's that, yet I know my friend is desperate for a wedding and a couple of kids.
It's funny, there's a girl I saw on POF regularly. (online) We have a lot in common, I hit everything on her requests list (be over 6' and sporty etc). We don't live miles away. She actually mentions in her profile something about "just going on looks is very shallow and its all about building something" (Im not sloth! Being in this situation they then decide to take the decision that they'll be 'career women' and that's that, yet I know my friend is desperate for a wedding and a couple of kids.
)I messaged her and got no reply. Fair enough. I daresay there was probably 1 thing that discounted me.
But don't get me wrong, much as I thought she was good looking, she wasn't a solid 10/10. Would love to know what the one thing was. She's still on there now btw months later - and her age range has increased beyond my age. Still hoping for the Sugar Daddy The Moose said:
Maybe it's the people in my circles however I don't see the same from the chaps.
I was going to say this in my OP. Some guys do piss away every penny they get. Live beyond their means. Have a flash car on finance they can barely afford to fuel. I know a few wkers like that.But IME. This affliction affects more girls than guys.
CountZero23 said:
... As time is running out they will find the first decent and solvent guy they can find; comfortable in the knowledge they can always divorce him, keep the kid, the house and have a regular income for the next 18 years.
And much as some MGTOW-ers are weird. THAT right there is why Guys are opting out of normal relationships.On a side note, I wonder if "high class escorts" from our thread a while back are finding an increase in customers. If "women" (as a generalisation) are never settling. Guys can make a decision to get their oats elsewhere and NOT have any of the problems detailed above.
Rich_W said:
It's funny, there's a girl I saw on POF regularly. (online) We have a lot in common, I hit everything on her requests list (be over 6' and sporty etc). We don't live miles away. She actually mentions in her profile something about "just going on looks is very shallow and its all about building something" (Im not sloth! )
I messaged her and got no reply. Fair enough. I daresay there was probably 1 thing that discounted me. But don't get me wrong, much as I thought she was good looking, she wasn't a solid 10/10. Would love to know what the one thing was. She's still on there now btw months later - and her age range has increased beyond my age. Still hoping for the Sugar Daddy
Women can be quite perceptive. )I messaged her and got no reply. Fair enough. I daresay there was probably 1 thing that discounted me.
But don't get me wrong, much as I thought she was good looking, she wasn't a solid 10/10. Would love to know what the one thing was. She's still on there now btw months later - and her age range has increased beyond my age. Still hoping for the Sugar Daddy Interesting read, as I have two sons we are more than aware of how they can be taken for a ride by modern women, and how if things go tits up they'll end up losing a lot of money.
We also have a number of friends and relatives with adult daughters and the way they have treat boyfriends or live in partners has been horrendous. My Niece "dumped" her last two as they didn't spend enough time pandering to her and didn't earn enough money to keep buying her gifts.
They are mainly princesses, and encouraged to be so by their mothers.
If I was doing it again I would go the MGTOW route as well.
We also have a number of friends and relatives with adult daughters and the way they have treat boyfriends or live in partners has been horrendous. My Niece "dumped" her last two as they didn't spend enough time pandering to her and didn't earn enough money to keep buying her gifts.
They are mainly princesses, and encouraged to be so by their mothers.
If I was doing it again I would go the MGTOW route as well.
Symbolica said:
Women can be quite perceptive.
Yeah, I get how it sounds Same thing happens on Tinder. You both have to match to get to message. So given Women are far pickier on that than Men. To match you must have a mutual liking. So then when you send the message to get no reply. Seems counter intuitive. So whilst I may not be the ultimate catch, at least wait till I mess it up on the small talk / flirting messages
But it tallies with the earlier posters comment about someone he knew trying to help set them up with someone.
Johnnytheboy said:
Was going to post that exact link.As usual, the daily mash are as accurate as ever.
Yipper said:
Women have f*nny and b**bs and know they can do whatever they want. They watch Sex and the City or listen to Beyoncé and get carried away.
Rich_W said:
Ironic given beyonce is much younger than JayZ who lets be honest is an ugly bd. I don't know anything about them really. But it doesn't strike me as being about money for either of them. Since they are both OK for funds. They've been married for years afaik. These modern women are just focusing on his money and not that they have built something (seemingly) solid over years.
When they first dated, Jay Z was dimorphically superior (taller), higher status (more famous), and much richer (plenty of hits). Beyoncé was chasing money and status as much as the next woman.d. I don't know anything about them really. But it doesn't strike me as being about money for either of them. Since they are both OK for funds. They've been married for years afaik. These modern women are just focusing on his money and not that they have built something (seemingly) solid over years.Nothing has changed much in the past ~200k years of evolution. Women are less bothered than men by looks (within reason) and almost always prioritise height (safety), fame (status) and wealth (security) for a male mate.
its a minefield.... and there are more wrong us out there now who are looking for all the wrong things.
Its a huge undertaking these days to actually take the chance and get married, so many end in divorce and we all go in with the thought that it wont happen to us, but it does and we do get taken over the coals.
Used to see a girl who worked in a travel agents, was ok we got on and we did share a few good dates etc, then one day she asked me what I was wanting to do with my life, if I was thinking about another job that paid more and that I should be getting off of the tools.... I was at her house we were going out but i said that well Im not to sure i feel all that great best if I go home...
never saw her again, saved up some money and worked hard at my job, didnt owe money cards were clear and actually had a fair bit saved. And this loon who was up to her eyes in store cards and owed money here there and everywhere was giving me career advice, while she was at the height of her career selling holidays to people that were looking for holidays... yeah.
I had a relationship that lasted around 9 months or so, was giving her a run home and she said that she was going to turkey, I said for a holiday, she said no to meet a guy and stay with him. Id taken her to the cinema and then a meal, yeah I pulled in to the side of the road. Asked her to get out. in the middle of no where she said. yeah why not let see if your turk will come over and take you home....
most of the earlier relationships I could feel the slid towards the Im so good best thing that happened to you yeah right upwards and on wards. Thing is you have to have some self worth and not settle for crap. if its like that before you are even married then its only going to get worse.
You want good then you need to be good yourself.
Its a huge undertaking these days to actually take the chance and get married, so many end in divorce and we all go in with the thought that it wont happen to us, but it does and we do get taken over the coals.
Used to see a girl who worked in a travel agents, was ok we got on and we did share a few good dates etc, then one day she asked me what I was wanting to do with my life, if I was thinking about another job that paid more and that I should be getting off of the tools.... I was at her house we were going out but i said that well Im not to sure i feel all that great best if I go home...
never saw her again, saved up some money and worked hard at my job, didnt owe money cards were clear and actually had a fair bit saved. And this loon who was up to her eyes in store cards and owed money here there and everywhere was giving me career advice, while she was at the height of her career selling holidays to people that were looking for holidays... yeah.
I had a relationship that lasted around 9 months or so, was giving her a run home and she said that she was going to turkey, I said for a holiday, she said no to meet a guy and stay with him. Id taken her to the cinema and then a meal, yeah I pulled in to the side of the road. Asked her to get out. in the middle of no where she said. yeah why not let see if your turk will come over and take you home....
most of the earlier relationships I could feel the slid towards the Im so good best thing that happened to you yeah right upwards and on wards. Thing is you have to have some self worth and not settle for crap. if its like that before you are even married then its only going to get worse.
You want good then you need to be good yourself.
Rich_W said:
CountZero23 said:
... As time is running out they will find the first decent and solvent guy they can find; comfortable in the knowledge they can always divorce him, keep the kid, the house and have a regular income for the next 18 years.
And much as some MGTOW-ers are weird. THAT right there is why Guys are opting out of normal relationships.On a side note, I wonder if "high class escorts" from our thread a while back are finding an increase in customers. If "women" (as a generalisation) are never settling. Guys can make a decision to get their oats elsewhere and NOT have any of the problems detailed above.
). Though I don't think that's what you were driving at though Rich. More the difficulty of finding a decent relationship rather than a fumble after a date in a trendy bar.
The previous girlfriend pretty much summed up all of the stereotypes levelled at millennials (though rather falls out of the age demographic), studying 'events management' so she could become a club promoter/DJ and with a massive payday loan in tow. Around the time I'd got her back on her feet she decided things weren't working out. Within a couple of months she was in Thailand dating a guy with a bar over there having ditched her 'degree'. Certainly an extreme on the hot / crazy matrix so not an entirely wasted few months.
Believe I may now have it figured out. Currently dating a pretty widow 8 years my senior who already has two kids and is worth substantially more than me.
Yipper said:
When they first dated, Jay Z was dimorphically superior (taller), higher status (more famous), and much richer (plenty of hits). Beyoncé was chasing money and status as much as the next woman.
Nothing has changed much in the past ~200k years of evolution. Women are less bothered than men by looks (within reason) and almost always prioritise height (safety), fame (status) and wealth (security) for a male mate.
But she stayed with him, for commitment, and she has to be financially secure now Shirley?Nothing has changed much in the past ~200k years of evolution. Women are less bothered than men by looks (within reason) and almost always prioritise height (safety), fame (status) and wealth (security) for a male mate.
Interesting on the height thing. Last girl when I met her had heels on of course. When I first saw her barefoot, she was obviously shorter. (I did guess this, I reckon 5'6ish) But all of a sudden you could see her eyes light up "Wow, how tall are you?" (6'1) So even though it shouldn't matter, it does to some women.
FWIW I prefer girls 5'9 and over so I guess I'm just as guilty
Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 12th March 22:09
Rich_W said:
By coincidence this vid of a 32yo girl trended on YT. Sums it up nicely. And of course she'll end up alone with cats in 10 years time.
I wish they'd stop making videos that cut after every sentence. I can't watch these modern unprofessional videos.As for your question, you have to find the right kind of woman. They're not all like that.
Blown2CV said:
Is this another thread where nerdy lumps complain that no one fancies them and that the internet won't serve them up a girlfriend?
No.It's a thread where guys wonder just why you'd bother to have a relationship with (seemingly, whatever that's worth) the majority of single women over 30.
HTH
Rich_W said:
Blown2CV said:
Is this another thread where nerdy lumps complain that no one fancies them and that the internet won't serve them up a girlfriend?
No.It's a thread where guys wonder just why you'd bother to have a relationship with (seemingly, whatever that's worth) the majority of single women over 30.
HTH
king mile. If you're expecting the best of both then you are the loon. Rich_W said:
But I found myself wondering if it's worth making a massive effort. Developed a "if it happens, it happens" attitude.
Depends how much you need to have intimacy with a woman. It's not difficult, I suppose; you just need to lower your standards. Otherwise you might be waiting a few years. Stop eying up the lithe 20-somethings in the gym and go for the 40-somethings who look like they're losing a battle with a treadmill.
Hoofy said:
Rich_W said:
But I found myself wondering if it's worth making a massive effort. Developed a "if it happens, it happens" attitude.
Depends how much you need to have intimacy with a woman. It's not difficult, I suppose; you just need to lower your standards. Otherwise you might be waiting a few years. Stop eying up the lithe 20-somethings in the gym and go for the 40-somethings who look like they're losing a battle with a treadmill.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff