Mainland Brits, how many of you have been to N Ireland?
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Having employed many chaps from Norn Iron over the years I can categorically state that IMHO they're the most bigoted, loud mouthed, argumentative and unpleasant people you could choose to meet. Maybe Liverpudlians run them a close second, but most scousers originated in NI in the first place.
So in answer to the OP, I can think of nowhere, apart from Mosul or Tikrit or any other Iraqi city that I'd least likely choose to visit.;)
So in answer to the OP, I can think of nowhere, apart from Mosul or Tikrit or any other Iraqi city that I'd least likely choose to visit.;)
ColinM50 said:
Having employed many chaps from Norn Iron over the years I can categorically state that IMHO they're the most bigoted, loud mouthed, argumentative and unpleasant people you could choose to meet. Maybe Liverpudlians run them a close second, but most scousers originated in NI in the first place.
So in answer to the OP, I can think of nowhere, apart from Mosul or Tikrit or any other Iraqi city that I'd least likely choose to visit.;)
Sounds like you may have tried to discuss religion, or booze, or the colour of flags - or what day of the week it is........So in answer to the OP, I can think of nowhere, apart from Mosul or Tikrit or any other Iraqi city that I'd least likely choose to visit.;)
ColinM50 said:
Having employed many chaps from Norn Iron over the years I can categorically state that IMHO they're the most bigoted, loud mouthed, argumentative and unpleasant people you could choose to meet. Maybe Liverpudlians run them a close second, but most scousers originated in NI in the first place.
So in answer to the OP, I can think of nowhere, apart from Mosul or Tikrit or any other Iraqi city that I'd least likely choose to visit.;)
That does seem a bit of a sweeping statement, but if the people you employed were from the lower classes, then I understand your comments. You've met "Loyalists". When I first moved to the Province, like most English people I didn't understand what really went on, and the general history of the 6 counties. I really did think it was all about unlucky British people being intimidated and harassed by Republican murderers. To start with I worked amongst the professional classes (odd to talk about classes, but it still prevails here, like England 50 years ago) and didn't get a chance to meet the lower orders, but eventually I got to meet them, listen to them, see the way they lived, and slowly realised the mistake I had made in thinking they were misunderstood British people.So in answer to the OP, I can think of nowhere, apart from Mosul or Tikrit or any other Iraqi city that I'd least likely choose to visit.;)
You have summed them up well. Many PH members who live in Ulster will be decent hard-working citizens who have nice friends from both communities and live righteous lives. They probably don't run into the lower orders very often, and I doubt if they've often visited the estates and watched the tribal rituals. These people really don't deserve the support of the British and especially the proferred £1bn. They're animals, about as British as an aardvark's turd. Sadly the middle-classes have to suffer as they're tarred with the same brush. Nobody can touch the scum - it's like they're Britain's travelling community, above the law. The police don't want trouble, so ignore much of the petty malice and law-breaking. They seem to think that they're regarded as cheeky chappies with a penchant for a drink or three. They have no idea whatsoever how the British live, they're essentially foreigners who think they're British. I keep myself to myself, I have no wish to mix with them whatsoever.
nicanary said:
That does seem a bit of a sweeping statement, but if the people you employed were from the lower classes, then I understand your comments. You've met "Loyalists". When I first moved to the Province, like most English people I didn't understand what really went on, and the general history of the 6 counties. I really did think it was all about unlucky British people being intimidated and harassed by Republican murderers. To start with I worked amongst the professional classes (odd to talk about classes, but it still prevails here, like England 50 years ago) and didn't get a chance to meet the lower orders, but eventually I got to meet them, listen to them, see the way they lived, and slowly realised the mistake I had made in thinking they were misunderstood British people.
You have summed them up well. Many PH members who live in Ulster will be decent hard-working citizens who have nice friends from both communities and live righteous lives. They probably don't run into the lower orders very often, and I doubt if they've often visited the estates and watched the tribal rituals. These people really don't deserve the support of the British and especially the proferred £1bn. They're animals, about as British as an aardvark's turd. Sadly the middle-classes have to suffer as they're tarred with the same brush. Nobody can touch the scum - it's like they're Britain's travelling community, above the law. The police don't want trouble, so ignore much of the petty malice and law-breaking. They seem to think that they're regarded as cheeky chappies with a penchant for a drink or three. They have no idea whatsoever how the British live, they're essentially foreigners who think they're British. I keep myself to myself, I have no wish to mix with them whatsoever.
Apart from that, what did you think of them?You have summed them up well. Many PH members who live in Ulster will be decent hard-working citizens who have nice friends from both communities and live righteous lives. They probably don't run into the lower orders very often, and I doubt if they've often visited the estates and watched the tribal rituals. These people really don't deserve the support of the British and especially the proferred £1bn. They're animals, about as British as an aardvark's turd. Sadly the middle-classes have to suffer as they're tarred with the same brush. Nobody can touch the scum - it's like they're Britain's travelling community, above the law. The police don't want trouble, so ignore much of the petty malice and law-breaking. They seem to think that they're regarded as cheeky chappies with a penchant for a drink or three. They have no idea whatsoever how the British live, they're essentially foreigners who think they're British. I keep myself to myself, I have no wish to mix with them whatsoever.
The Mad Monk said:
nicanary said:
That does seem a bit of a sweeping statement, but if the people you employed were from the lower classes, then I understand your comments. You've met "Loyalists". When I first moved to the Province, like most English people I didn't understand what really went on, and the general history of the 6 counties. I really did think it was all about unlucky British people being intimidated and harassed by Republican murderers. To start with I worked amongst the professional classes (odd to talk about classes, but it still prevails here, like England 50 years ago) and didn't get a chance to meet the lower orders, but eventually I got to meet them, listen to them, see the way they lived, and slowly realised the mistake I had made in thinking they were misunderstood British people.
You have summed them up well. Many PH members who live in Ulster will be decent hard-working citizens who have nice friends from both communities and live righteous lives. They probably don't run into the lower orders very often, and I doubt if they've often visited the estates and watched the tribal rituals. These people really don't deserve the support of the British and especially the proferred £1bn. They're animals, about as British as an aardvark's turd. Sadly the middle-classes have to suffer as they're tarred with the same brush. Nobody can touch the scum - it's like they're Britain's travelling community, above the law. The police don't want trouble, so ignore much of the petty malice and law-breaking. They seem to think that they're regarded as cheeky chappies with a penchant for a drink or three. They have no idea whatsoever how the British live, they're essentially foreigners who think they're British. I keep myself to myself, I have no wish to mix with them whatsoever.
Apart from that, what did you think of them?You have summed them up well. Many PH members who live in Ulster will be decent hard-working citizens who have nice friends from both communities and live righteous lives. They probably don't run into the lower orders very often, and I doubt if they've often visited the estates and watched the tribal rituals. These people really don't deserve the support of the British and especially the proferred £1bn. They're animals, about as British as an aardvark's turd. Sadly the middle-classes have to suffer as they're tarred with the same brush. Nobody can touch the scum - it's like they're Britain's travelling community, above the law. The police don't want trouble, so ignore much of the petty malice and law-breaking. They seem to think that they're regarded as cheeky chappies with a penchant for a drink or three. They have no idea whatsoever how the British live, they're essentially foreigners who think they're British. I keep myself to myself, I have no wish to mix with them whatsoever.
There's a primary school in my town where not a single child could pass the 11-plus. That's about 90 kids who couldn't pass a test to determine a basic level of intelligence. All from a local Loyalist estate. They simply won't mix - they treat their estates as ghettoes. I swear it's a form of inbreeding. I call them Ulster Monkeys. They can't change really because they have no concept of any other way of life. If you've ever watched one of those Channel 5 documentaries about people on benefits, you've observed the Ulster working class.
PS .....and breathe. Sorry. None of the above helps one iota, and anyway is off-topic. I'll get me coat.
Edited by nicanary on Friday 7th July 22:43
iphonedyou said:
Zod said:
My best mate (Purdysburn and Methody) and a girlfriend (Holywood and Victoria College) at university were both from Nor'nIre. Both proddies, when I'm the other. I felt welcome there, even in the late 80s, other than in South Armagh (and that hasn't improved much, even now).
I lived in Purdysburn until about six years ago when I moved to London (back in Belfast now though) and went to Methody! Thought I knew you for a second there, Zod!
Just like mentioning Menston which is next door to where I'm from.
ooo000ooo said:
Carrick castle - sometimes they have stuff on in the castle, sword fighting archery and stuff. Usually on a Saturday. There's usually 1 day a year when it is free and there's a load of other stuff on in the town - pole jousting etc. Call into Dobbins Inn for a pint, check out at Nicholas church if you like old things. There's a small museum behind the town hall and a gas museum (haven't been to it though).
Staying in Carrick with in-laws for a week in August, been 3 or 4 times but haven't been in the castle yet, will be doing that though. I have sampled Dobbins Inn and Ownies as well. Great bunch of people all in allchml said:
Staying in Carrick with in-laws for a week in August, been 3 or 4 times but haven't been in the castle yet, will be doing that though. I have sampled Dobbins Inn and Ownies as well. Great bunch of people all in all
Owenies has redone it's beer garden, great spot when the sun's out.ooo000ooo said:
chml said:
Staying in Carrick with in-laws for a week in August, been 3 or 4 times but haven't been in the castle yet, will be doing that though. I have sampled Dobbins Inn and Ownies as well. Great bunch of people all in all
Owenies has redone it's beer garden, great spot when the sun's out.Visit the south often.
Back in 95 sold a car to a hotelier in the Bangor....took it across and stayed in his hotel which had a bar/club attached.....went to enter the club, doorman asked where i was from, told him from england and he refused me entry saying we dont let squaddies in, threatening attitude.......5 mins later i was in the club with apologies from the doorman after id rung the owner.
My only experience of the north, not bothered about returning
POORCARDEALER said:
Visit the south often.
Back in 95 sold a car to a hotelier in the Bangor....took it across and stayed in his hotel which had a bar/club attached.....went to enter the club, doorman asked where i was from, told him from england and he refused me entry saying we dont let squaddies in, threatening attitude.......5 mins later i was in the club with apologies from the doorman after id rung the owner.
My only experience of the north, not bothered about returning
Bangor used to be a safe spot for squaddies from palace barracks. Unfortunately they may not have been the best behaved so may have ruined it for others.Back in 95 sold a car to a hotelier in the Bangor....took it across and stayed in his hotel which had a bar/club attached.....went to enter the club, doorman asked where i was from, told him from england and he refused me entry saying we dont let squaddies in, threatening attitude.......5 mins later i was in the club with apologies from the doorman after id rung the owner.
My only experience of the north, not bothered about returning
ColinM50 said:
Having employed many chaps from Norn Iron over the years I can categorically state that IMHO they're the most bigoted, loud mouthed, argumentative and unpleasant people you could choose to meet. Maybe Liverpudlians run them a close second, but most scousers originated in NI in the first place.
So in answer to the OP, I can think of nowhere, apart from Mosul or Tikrit or any other Iraqi city that I'd least likely choose to visit.;)
Scousers are only Paddies that can swim tbh.... So in answer to the OP, I can think of nowhere, apart from Mosul or Tikrit or any other Iraqi city that I'd least likely choose to visit.;)
My wife's from Fermanagh so we go quite there quite regularly but we most often go to Belfast as most of the close family lives in or near there.
As we were going over to see family though I found I wasn't doing much "tourist stuff" so when the Giro d'Italia started in Belfast we went over for a much longer holiday. If you're in Belfast the Titanic museum is well worth a visit and (as far as I know) hasn't been mentioned before
Such a friendly, beautiful and interesting place.
As we were going over to see family though I found I wasn't doing much "tourist stuff" so when the Giro d'Italia started in Belfast we went over for a much longer holiday. If you're in Belfast the Titanic museum is well worth a visit and (as far as I know) hasn't been mentioned before
Such a friendly, beautiful and interesting place.
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