Supermarkets - all changing
Discussion
NoIP said:
I think all these people that are praising their "high quality" food are either blind, have no taste buds or never bought any fruit and veg from them. The "fresh" fruit and veg choice ranges from 'completely rotten', 'slightly rotten' to 'will be rotten by the time you've arrived home'. I've always thought the fresh fruit and veg quality was poor at the big names (Morrisons being the exception) but Aldi and Lidl's is on a whole different level.
oh god how can fruit and veg go bad after a day, its really bad!C0ffin D0dger said:
768 said:
Likewise.
So I let the wife go. But under strict instruction not to bring back any Aldi chicken after I found vertebrae.
You do know that chickens have bones don't you? I quite often buy whole ones, vertebrae included.So I let the wife go. But under strict instruction not to bring back any Aldi chicken after I found vertebrae.
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C0ffin D0dger said:
768 said:
Likewise.
So I let the wife go. But under strict instruction not to bring back any Aldi chicken after I found vertebrae.
You do know that chickens have bones don't you? I quite often buy whole ones, vertebrae included.So I let the wife go. But under strict instruction not to bring back any Aldi chicken after I found vertebrae.
768 said:
C0ffin D0dger said:
768 said:
Likewise.
So I let the wife go. But under strict instruction not to bring back any Aldi chicken after I found vertebrae.
You do know that chickens have bones don't you? I quite often buy whole ones, vertebrae included.So I let the wife go. But under strict instruction not to bring back any Aldi chicken after I found vertebrae.
768 said:
C0ffin D0dger said:
768 said:
Likewise.
So I let the wife go. But under strict instruction not to bring back any Aldi chicken after I found vertebrae.
You do know that chickens have bones don't you? I quite often buy whole ones, vertebrae included.So I let the wife go. But under strict instruction not to bring back any Aldi chicken after I found vertebrae.
This may come as a shock to you, but cheap readymeals use cheap ingredients prepared on the cheap.
I love Aldi & Lidl and wouldn't do my main shop anywhere else. Much cheaper per month, quality products and limited choice means I get what we need without the several options which are more expensiuve and just taste the same.
The man aisle is very good and often pick up bit thats I dont need and stay in the cupboard at home just incase.
We also complete a big shop at Costco for meats, water etc and find those 2 stores give us 90% of what we need.
Lucky for me there is 2 Tesco's, Sainsbury's and a Morrisons within a 2 mile radius of my house so use those for some branded items, but I just dont see the value of shopping there full time, and never feel like I get a good experience as a customer.
Waitrose the only 'big 5' store I like shopping in.
The man aisle is very good and often pick up bit thats I dont need and stay in the cupboard at home just incase.
We also complete a big shop at Costco for meats, water etc and find those 2 stores give us 90% of what we need. Lucky for me there is 2 Tesco's, Sainsbury's and a Morrisons within a 2 mile radius of my house so use those for some branded items, but I just dont see the value of shopping there full time, and never feel like I get a good experience as a customer.
Waitrose the only 'big 5' store I like shopping in.
TooMany2cvs said:
They don't breed special invertebrate chicken/jellyfish crosses for Aldidl readymeals, y'know.
This may come as a shock to you, but cheap readymeals use cheap ingredients prepared on the cheap.
I hate readymeals anyway. Perils of shopping by proxy when the proxy is the cook.This may come as a shock to you, but cheap readymeals use cheap ingredients prepared on the cheap.
What I find interesting is how much variation there is not only between the differnent stores but also within the brands. I really thought that there would be more uniformity. But from the comments in thread there is clearly a big variation.
Locally we have several morrisons, sainsburys, aldis, one each of Booths, Waitrose, Lidl.
Best of the lot is Booths, although it is more expensive. The local waitrose is poor and expensive, no where near as good as the ones I've used down south.
Aldi is very poor and I struggle to understand why it gets the love - very poor fresh food selection.
Lidl is good. Aubergines, avacados, peppers, etc all good quality and god prices.
Sainsbury is overpriced and not great (poor and expensive fresh goods). Morrrisons has massive variation between the 3 local stores.
I tend to use Booths, Lidl and morrisons. partly on where I am and partly on what I want.
Locally we have several morrisons, sainsburys, aldis, one each of Booths, Waitrose, Lidl.
Best of the lot is Booths, although it is more expensive. The local waitrose is poor and expensive, no where near as good as the ones I've used down south.
Aldi is very poor and I struggle to understand why it gets the love - very poor fresh food selection.
Lidl is good. Aubergines, avacados, peppers, etc all good quality and god prices.
Sainsbury is overpriced and not great (poor and expensive fresh goods). Morrrisons has massive variation between the 3 local stores.
I tend to use Booths, Lidl and morrisons. partly on where I am and partly on what I want.
We have always supported Aldi locally with an occasional shop, for 15 years now, and found the meat and dairy products to be very good. But the store was a bit out of the way, so only occasional. Then they opened a new store on the route we take coming home from Saturday morning activities. Now we shop there pretty much exclusively.
It is quick to go in and out, 30 mins max, the "man aisle" is great, and the food bill is substantially reduced, 30% plus I would say.
One thing is noticeable, though. When we started going every week, at the "school gate" my wife was met with some slightly puzzled and dismissive reaction to the change, especially from the "Waitrose set!" . However, two years later, and not only do we often bump into some of them at the self same Aldi (it is a real good one, far better than the older store we went to), but the initial almost embarrassment from them, has turned full circle and now shopping at Aldi is almost a badge of honour!
I am sure it is a cycle like many others and they will all be into the next "fad" of shopping, but it definitely seems to be a thing around our way now.
It is quick to go in and out, 30 mins max, the "man aisle" is great, and the food bill is substantially reduced, 30% plus I would say.
One thing is noticeable, though. When we started going every week, at the "school gate" my wife was met with some slightly puzzled and dismissive reaction to the change, especially from the "Waitrose set!" . However, two years later, and not only do we often bump into some of them at the self same Aldi (it is a real good one, far better than the older store we went to), but the initial almost embarrassment from them, has turned full circle and now shopping at Aldi is almost a badge of honour!
I am sure it is a cycle like many others and they will all be into the next "fad" of shopping, but it definitely seems to be a thing around our way now.
Globs said:
I object to self checkouts because if I use one, I'm enabling the company to make a person redundant.
People may not consider checkout work to be that great but compared to sitting at home on the social, it's a great job. It's also a lot more sociable than a machine and CCTV cameras, if shops move over to them completely or make the real checkout queues too long I'll just shop elsewhere.
It's part of the insidious march for profits over people which is undermining both our economy and society.
I sound like Kenneth Cope now LOL.
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Getting back to the point of the thread this is one of the main drivers for digital SELs too. Imagine how many staff hours is takes to action price changes & put SELs out for new planograms. Actually I can tell you... a fresh 1m with 8 shelves will take between 10-20 mins to lay out SELs for, provided it’s straightforward. Multiply that by every metre in a department...People may not consider checkout work to be that great but compared to sitting at home on the social, it's a great job. It's also a lot more sociable than a machine and CCTV cameras, if shops move over to them completely or make the real checkout queues too long I'll just shop elsewhere.
It's part of the insidious march for profits over people which is undermining both our economy and society.
I sound like Kenneth Cope now LOL.
This will allow restocking shifts to be run on less staff, which over an estate will be a huge saving. Much like the introduction of SCOs where some VCO has replaced 2 staff members with 1 sco...
SebastienClement said:
Getting back to the point of the thread this is one of the main drivers for digital SELs too. Imagine how many staff hours is takes to action price changes & put SELs out for new planograms. Actually I can tell you... a fresh 1m with 8 shelves will take between 10-20 mins to lay out SELs for, provided it’s straightforward. Multiply that by every metre in a department...
This will allow restocking shifts to be run on less staff, which over an estate will be a huge saving. Much like the introduction of SCOs where some VCO has replaced 2 staff members with 1 sco...
You could speak in English you know. SCO? VCO? wut?This will allow restocking shifts to be run on less staff, which over an estate will be a huge saving. Much like the introduction of SCOs where some VCO has replaced 2 staff members with 1 sco...
As for this stuff in general, you may as well try to do a Canute & hold back the sea. The supermarkets are constantly pushing on this stuff, it'll never end. We've seen shelf ready packaging replace cases, so the shelf stacker just rips the front off a case rather than lift out & place each item individually & the rise of free standing display unit pre-filled with stock & delivered in ready to wheel out to the shop floor - same principle. I make a tidy living delivering those. One of out clients is a packaging outfit supplying the free magazines you get in the foyer.
They're delivered in bundles to the factory, placed in a cardboard unit which my customer manufactures & then the whole thing is put on a wheeled dolly. When it eventually arrives, it's wheeled out. Ten years ago, there would have been two guys stacking them up by hand, now it's all pushed back to the supplier. No one does time & motion better than the supermarkets & it's the fierce competition that drives it, if you deplore Tesco's self scan tills costing jobs, but love Aldi's prices, you need to think again.
I find Sainsburys checkout way too slow now, just through my stuff at me at breakneck pace, we have an old boy in our local one and he is chatty and has a disability, possibly has had a stroke and a full weeks shop can take a full week to run through, better to have chubby Chantelle launch it at you as fast as you can drop it back in the trolley
hyphen said:
Why do you object to self checkouts? Do you realise there German chains are also rolling them out.
And I think you are in a honeymoon phase/have a particularly bad normal supermarket, as Aldi's near me often have most of the checkouts closed and long queues. Their checkout workers have aggressive targets of how many they have to scan per mili second too along with other sharp practices such as making a Lorry driver who has just driven for x hours also do the unloading.
I use all the supermarkets as being in London they are all nearby, pro's and cons. Tesco is my most hated though, as their ethics seem the lowest of all.
The last thing Aldi needs is self-checkout given the average clientele. Its just too slow and too man-power dependent. You'd have to employ someone for the whole shift to baby sit it. In Aldi they don't work like that, they're very fluid with opening/closing tills as and when. At least in ours. And I think you are in a honeymoon phase/have a particularly bad normal supermarket, as Aldi's near me often have most of the checkouts closed and long queues. Their checkout workers have aggressive targets of how many they have to scan per mili second too along with other sharp practices such as making a Lorry driver who has just driven for x hours also do the unloading.
I use all the supermarkets as being in London they are all nearby, pro's and cons. Tesco is my most hated though, as their ethics seem the lowest of all.
Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 27th June 12:03
And people still do not understand how Aldi works, which is why you get the queues. You do not pack your shopping as its scanned. I see loads of people trying juggle items into a plastic bag, and arrange them to make most use of the bag, as they're being machine gunned from the scanner. No, no, no...you hoof it all into the trolley as fast as they can scan it, then you then go to the side and pack it there, out of the way. Or what I do, which is hoof it all in the trolley, hoof it all into my boot and then grab a big ikea bag out the garage and cart it all into the house in one go.
They are German. Germans are all about efficiency.
Eddie Strohacker said:
You could speak in English you know. SCO? VCO? wut?
As for this stuff in general, you may as well try to do a Canute & hold back the sea. The supermarkets are constantly pushing on this stuff, it'll never end. We've seen shelf ready packaging replace cases, so the shelf stacker just rips the front off a case rather than lift out & place each item individually & the rise of free standing display unit pre-filled with stock & delivered in ready to wheel out to the shop floor - same principle. I make a tidy living delivering those. One of out clients is a packaging outfit supplying the free magazines you get in the foyer.
They're delivered in bundles to the factory, placed in a cardboard unit which my customer manufactures & then the whole thing is put on a wheeled dolly. When it eventually arrives, it's wheeled out. Ten years ago, there would have been two guys stacking them up by hand, now it's all pushed back to the supplier. No one does time & motion better than the supermarkets & it's the fierce competition that drives it, if you deplore Tesco's self scan tills costing jobs, but love Aldi's prices, you need to think again.
I don't deplore anything! I'm all for efficiency - and championing it As for this stuff in general, you may as well try to do a Canute & hold back the sea. The supermarkets are constantly pushing on this stuff, it'll never end. We've seen shelf ready packaging replace cases, so the shelf stacker just rips the front off a case rather than lift out & place each item individually & the rise of free standing display unit pre-filled with stock & delivered in ready to wheel out to the shop floor - same principle. I make a tidy living delivering those. One of out clients is a packaging outfit supplying the free magazines you get in the foyer.
They're delivered in bundles to the factory, placed in a cardboard unit which my customer manufactures & then the whole thing is put on a wheeled dolly. When it eventually arrives, it's wheeled out. Ten years ago, there would have been two guys stacking them up by hand, now it's all pushed back to the supplier. No one does time & motion better than the supermarkets & it's the fierce competition that drives it, if you deplore Tesco's self scan tills costing jobs, but love Aldi's prices, you need to think again.
Otispunkmeyer said:
The last thing Aldi needs is self-checkout given the average clientele. Its just too slow and too man-power dependent. You'd have to employ someone for the whole shift to baby sit it. In Aldi they don't work like that, they're very fluid with opening/closing tills as and when. At least in ours.
The big Asda we go to has at least a couple of staff in the self-checkout area. We drop in for bits & pieces but generally need assistance at least a couple of times. I do wonder how much they lose through people gaming the scanners? I suppose on the other hand the store might gain by people scanning stuff twice.
Sheepshanks said:
The big Asda ....... I suppose on the other hand the store might gain by people scanning stuff twice.
Their machines have "I didn't recognise that last item ,please scan it again"But if you do that it is on your receipt twice and pay twice for it ,because it HAS recognised but won't admit to it.
So if you hear that ,wait for assistant to cancel item.
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