Any other expectant Dads?

Any other expectant Dads?

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havoc

30,086 posts

236 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Blown2CV said:
again not sure if i agree. Mums are perfectly able to feed when out and about, but appreciate they may not want to (although this is a real shame for them).
Sorry chap, but I really don't think you read my post, as you're responding to what you thought I said not what I actually said.

I took your 'meal out together' to mean dinner sans-baby...which doesn't necessarily work if you're breastfeeding and the baby won't take a bottle. We have been out for brunches and lunches fairly often, as a family...it's the dinnertimes that don't work as the sprog is thoroughly knackered by 7pm, so that is the hardpoint that we have to deal with at home...sometimes for 2+ hours, by which point all we want is a comfy bed...

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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havoc said:
Blown2CV said:
again not sure if i agree. Mums are perfectly able to feed when out and about, but appreciate they may not want to (although this is a real shame for them).
Sorry chap, but I really don't think you read my post, as you're responding to what you thought I said not what I actually said.

I took your 'meal out together' to mean dinner sans-baby...which doesn't necessarily work if you're breastfeeding and the baby won't take a bottle. We have been out for brunches and lunches fairly often, as a family...it's the dinnertimes that don't work as the sprog is thoroughly knackered by 7pm, so that is the hardpoint that we have to deal with at home...sometimes for 2+ hours, by which point all we want is a comfy bed...
ok well double crossed wires then, i meant mum, dad and baby. Anyway IMHO, as long as people can avoid being scared of just going out the three of you, then there is less of a mad rush to figure out a way go out and leave the baby behind. I think we only did that a couple of times in the first 6 months, and only for a couple of hours in the day, but we went out plenty with the baby.

Lazadude

1,732 posts

162 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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We went out last night as a family, she was so well behaved that we got through the whole meal without her getting out the highchair etc. She was eating with us, loving it. Knew it was too good to be true though. Come to dessert (we brought a little yogurt pot and some fruit with us), she had half a mouthful and her demeanour changes...

Projectile vomit everywhere. She ate so well, she overate and made herself sick frown

Going out with kids is fun.

The Moose

22,865 posts

210 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Blown2CV said:
anonymous said:
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you just need to understand why you are doing it, and what you will get out of it.

If you are going to use the test results to take action (i.e. terminate a positive result), you need to understand that the high accuracy in trapping true positives may (stress, may) come with a high risk of a false positive (i.e. test says positive but baby does not have the condition in reality). So, you'll need to ask them what the false positive stats are because in that instance you would be to terminating a healthy baby. If the missus isn't planning on taking action and just wants to know, then there is a definite argument to say that she won't actually know... it's all just percentages. You may end up with a result something like the baby is 60% likely to have this condition. I guess what I'd be thinking is what do you actually do with that info as it won't help you to prepare mentally or otherwise, and actually you just paid to make yourself worry more. Aside from all that, the invasive tests you may need to get a slightly more accurate result if the earlier tests determine an elevated this, the tests themselves bring an active risk of miscarriage.

You may have worked this out already from my thoughts above but we decided we wouldn't take action, and decline the option of tests that serve only to determine the need for invasive tests for particular conditions e.g. Downs. People make their own choices however.
Honestly, I don't agree. I think that knowing what is coming (either sex or genetic/chromosome issues) are definitely worth knowing...if nothing else so that you are not sideswiped in the delivery room.

It is standard testing here. To be honest, it also takes some of the "what if..." anxiety away from me which would make it worth every cent!

We wouldn't terminate whatever the outcome (unless I guess it was going to kill my wife), but being mentally prepared helps me at least.

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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The Moose said:
Blown2CV said:
anonymous said:
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you just need to understand why you are doing it, and what you will get out of it.

If you are going to use the test results to take action (i.e. terminate a positive result), you need to understand that the high accuracy in trapping true positives may (stress, may) come with a high risk of a false positive (i.e. test says positive but baby does not have the condition in reality). So, you'll need to ask them what the false positive stats are because in that instance you would be to terminating a healthy baby. If the missus isn't planning on taking action and just wants to know, then there is a definite argument to say that she won't actually know... it's all just percentages. You may end up with a result something like the baby is 60% likely to have this condition. I guess what I'd be thinking is what do you actually do with that info as it won't help you to prepare mentally or otherwise, and actually you just paid to make yourself worry more. Aside from all that, the invasive tests you may need to get a slightly more accurate result if the earlier tests determine an elevated this, the tests themselves bring an active risk of miscarriage.

You may have worked this out already from my thoughts above but we decided we wouldn't take action, and decline the option of tests that serve only to determine the need for invasive tests for particular conditions e.g. Downs. People make their own choices however.
Honestly, I don't agree. I think that knowing what is coming (either sex or genetic/chromosome issues) are definitely worth knowing...if nothing else so that you are not sideswiped in the delivery room.

It is standard testing here. To be honest, it also takes some of the "what if..." anxiety away from me which would make it worth every cent!

We wouldn't terminate whatever the outcome (unless I guess it was going to kill my wife), but being mentally prepared helps me at least.
but you won't know... the test will not tell you for sure anyway?

The Moose

22,865 posts

210 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Blown2CV said:
but you won't know... the test will not tell you for sure anyway?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what test is being talked about??

Jim the Sunderer

3,239 posts

183 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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Screeching baby, breast pumps going every hour, microwave sterilising nozzles & bottles 10 times a day.


I picked the wrong year to quit drinking.

ST_Nuts

1,487 posts

108 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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My partner was doing fairly well up until today at around 9-10 weeks in. Felt quite sick all a sudden and wanted to go for a walk for some fresh air. Thought we'll drive to the canal for a nice stroll. As soon as we got out the car she really didn't feel good at all. She said she felt like throwing up with severed stomach pain and close to fainting. Luckily her parents live just down the road and she got in the front door and burst into tears frown

She's still there feeling ill whilst I've had to come home.

I'm sure it's normal hormone imbalances but can't help but worry!


Vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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Nausea is normal.

Keep an eye on the pains

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/s...

Djtemeka

1,814 posts

193 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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We are currently in the maternity ward now. 5.” 1/2 minutes between contractions. Getting there smile

Hoink

1,426 posts

159 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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anonymous said:
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I'm not a doctor/medical professional but going through this at the minute.

We've just been told that we have a 1 in 12 chance of down syndrome (standard nhs screening). It's a very emotional time in the house. I believe the accuracy of the nhs screening is 80% ish.

A more accurate test is the NIPT but most of the places are shut over Xmas. We were offered an appointment local to us on 2nd Jan but it's too far off. We've managed to find a slot over 3 hours drive away for tomorrow so we're making the round trip. Results take upto 7 working days.

If the results come back and it doesn't look good there is a further test you can do which gives 100% confirmation but there is also a small chance of miscarriage.

The biggest problem is that the tests don't tell you how much of a disability would be present in the baby. There are obviously big ranges but there is no way to test this yet.


Vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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anonymous said:
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Or a call to the midwife or 111. Midwife teams run an out of hours on call system and are local.

Jonnny

29,398 posts

190 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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ST_Nuts said:
My partner was doing fairly well up until today at around 9-10 weeks in. Felt quite sick all a sudden and wanted to go for a walk for some fresh air. Thought we'll drive to the canal for a nice stroll. As soon as we got out the car she really didn't feel good at all. She said she felt like throwing up with severed stomach pain and close to fainting. Luckily her parents live just down the road and she got in the front door and burst into tears frown

She's still there feeling ill whilst I've had to come home.

I'm sure it's normal hormone imbalances but can't help but worry!
Not to worry you, but I'd ring the labour ward at your local hospital, she'll be invited in immediately for a check over, we went in a few times during the 9 months - very very helpful every time.. You're not wasting their time, they're there for you.

Jonnny

29,398 posts

190 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Djtemeka said:
We are currently in the maternity ward now. 5.” 1/2 minutes between contractions. Getting there smile
Fun times! Not long to go..

Update us soon, good luck beer

Djtemeka

1,814 posts

193 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Jonnny said:
Fun times! Not long to go..

Update us soon, good luck beer
3.5(ish) hours of proper labour and a little 8pounder of screams biggrin
I’m home now and just fed the first born. Wife’s still in hospital but if all goes well she might be out later this morning.
Both of us have colds... again. Coughing all during birth and razors in the throat.
Aah well. Baby is 2 weeks early so it’s all cool for a crimbo baby smile

Jonnny

29,398 posts

190 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Djtemeka said:
3.5(ish) hours of proper labour and a little 8pounder of screams biggrin
I’m home now and just fed the first born. Wife’s still in hospital but if all goes well she might be out later this morning.
Both of us have colds... again. Coughing all during birth and razors in the throat.
Aah well. Baby is 2 weeks early so it’s all cool for a crimbo baby smile
Congratulations to you all, a Christmas baby is a pretty good present angel

Have a great time.

We have a PH Expectant Dad's Facebook Group too if you're not already a member type

https://www.facebook.com/groups/326723941388707/?r...

ST_Nuts

1,487 posts

108 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Thanks for all the replies!

I rang 111 last night and went through all the questions which resulted in them arranging an ambulance to come out. 10 minutes later a paramedic phoned and went through more question which he concluded it wasn't severe enough to warrant an immediate ambulance and said a doctor will phone shortly..

5 hours later at 4am they finally phoned and arranged an appointment at the hospital first thing this morning with a doctor. It appears the pregnancy is all fine (phew!!) and the pain seems more linked to the digestive system playing up - possible a problem with the gallbladder which we got to monitor over the next 24 hours.

I'm just so relieved everything seems ok with the pregnancy!!

Next time I'll ring the maternity triage directly as that was an absolute ball ache.

Jonnny

29,398 posts

190 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Yep, ring Labour ward - far better than 111 from our experience.

My wife has a severe stomach pain (1 month after birth) and they think it's gallstones. She literally rolls around on the bed in agony, it's crazy.

She did get really bad heartburn at about 16 weeks onwards, had to take daily Ranitadine to cure it (little one was born with lots of hair.. There's a wives tale heartburn means lots of hair hehe)

Vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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ST_Nuts said:
Thanks for all the replies!

I rang 111 last night and went through all the questions which resulted in them arranging an ambulance to come out. 10 minutes later a paramedic phoned and went through more question which he concluded it wasn't severe enough to warrant an immediate ambulance and said a doctor will phone shortly..

5 hours later at 4am they finally phoned and arranged an appointment at the hospital first thing this morning with a doctor. It appears the pregnancy is all fine (phew!!) and the pain seems more linked to the digestive system playing up - possible a problem with the gallbladder which we got to monitor over the next 24 hours.

I'm just so relieved everything seems ok with the pregnancy!!

Next time I'll ring the maternity triage directly as that was an absolute ball ache.
Does she have a midwife assigned?

Genuine Barn Find

5,786 posts

216 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Lady B.J.W is now in the 9 month zone. Planned birth sometime around the 20th Jan. We have a 2 year old boy as well (number 2 is also a little chap). I think it's just beginning to sink in...... For various reasons I left it late to have children, but at 44 I feel like I have had a new lease of life - even if that does involve destroying my knees with extracting toy cars from underneath the dining room cupboards.