Any other expectant Dads?

Any other expectant Dads?

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Gallons Per Mile

1,887 posts

108 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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richatnort said:
No problem if you have any questions about it feel free to PM me or I'm in the dads fb group! There are some good bits and some other not so good bits but overall we liked it. They give suggested sleep patterns to try and follow and it helped and also it says no matter how crap your night is get up no later than 7:30 which has helped get a routine in place. We started to follow it about your daughters age and has put us in good stead!
Thanks! I don't have a FB account but a PM or two might be good. Mrs GPM is currently reading the book as Amazon Prime delivered it the same day. Soon as she's finished I'll have a go too.

vonuber said:
Sleep is by far the hardest. Both of ours had completely different sleep patterns when young, and now one sleeps less than the other.

It does get better though, even if it doesn't feel like it at the moment.
Yep, it certainly is! We feel like we're just firefighting at the moment trying to go about our normal lives and look after mini GPM. She's a really happy baby but so fussy when tired, which is pretty much all the time at the moment because we're not in a routine with her...

TheHighlander

1,291 posts

199 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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TheHighlander said:
I can update this to say all went very well.

Little baby is 13w1 as of Friday, wife is keeping well. So fingers crossed smile due on our wedding anniversary.
An update on this.

It’s been nerve racking with what happened before but can confirm we are now at 21.5 weeks and all is going well.

Bought our new pram, starter decorating the nursery etc

Exciting times, she is beginning to feel the baby move now which is cool and she’s getting some size wink

richatnort

3,026 posts

132 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Gallons Per Mile said:
richatnort said:
No problem if you have any questions about it feel free to PM me or I'm in the dads fb group! There are some good bits and some other not so good bits but overall we liked it. They give suggested sleep patterns to try and follow and it helped and also it says no matter how crap your night is get up no later than 7:30 which has helped get a routine in place. We started to follow it about your daughters age and has put us in good stead!
Thanks! I don't have a FB account but a PM or two might be good. Mrs GPM is currently reading the book as Amazon Prime delivered it the same day. Soon as she's finished I'll have a go too.
No problem i'll keep an eye out for it! Ours slept from 7-6 this morning with one mild wake up which she self soothed herself with her hand! She clearly knew mum & dad needed the sleep!

richatnort

3,026 posts

132 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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So I thought this would be a good one that really only dads would answer!

How long has your child gone without a poop? Ours went 7 days until yesterday when it finally came out and OMG it was vile! We eventually went and got some prune pure´ which helped but i don't know how babies keep that level of poo inside them!

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Our 3yr old can still go 2 or 3 days before she does a massive dump, but then she is weird.

Gary29

4,163 posts

100 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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anonymous said:
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Did you steal my child?! Our daughter is exactly the same (15 months now!!) it's a long old slog, I won't sugar coat it.

She wakes up around 8am every day, has an hour nap in the afternoon, but only in a moving pram, so as you say, zero respite for either of us, and then bath time 7pm, and has to be nursed/rocked to sleep at night, which usually takes a couple of hours! Missus finally puts her down around 10pm, we just can't seem to bring the bed time forward no matter what we do. Missus is knackered by 10pm as you would expect, so it's straight to bed to sleep.

My advice would be to try as hard as you can to maintain your relationship with mum, as that has been the only thing that has suffered a little, just due to the fact that we don't get to spend any time together as a couple, which we expected, just not to this degree!

But by mercy of all mercies, we did manage to settle her at 7.30pm last night, bottle of red wine on the sofa watching netflix together, absolute BLISS! So there is hope, just work together and share the load as best you can before any resentment crops up from either side, it's the tiredness that gets you, so always think carefully before you say ANYHTHING out loud, tolerance levels are non-existent without sleep.

Good luck!

Gary29

4,163 posts

100 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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And we've had a few epic 'code browns' I think 4-5 days is probably the longest, she's usually pretty regular.

But she has got herself into some right states, completely filled a nappy, overflowed, all up her back, ruined PJ's, cot bed sheet etc, that's after being changed a few hours earlier.

Grim.

I did think before she was born that I really wouldn't be able to handle that side of things, but I do just get on with it now, no bother, I might have to crack a window open for the really bad ones though hurl

Huge congratulations to the new dads, great news!

vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Gary29 said:
Did you so always think carefully before you say ANYHTHING out loud, tolerance levels are non-existent without sleep.
I have a couple of tactics.

Count to 5 before responding.
or
"I am listening. I'm really tired, let me think about that for a few minutes."
or
"Ug, ug my brain not working, can we talk about it in the morning when I can probably give you a better answer"

Also getting agreement that you don't have to do everything together as a family at the weekend - alternate Sat or Sun mornings to allow each other to have a lie-in and some "me time" (cleaning and cooking banned at these times, it has to be sleeping, exercise, TV, or having a stupidly long bath...)

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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The Mrs and I have a mutually agreed 'decompression' period after both kids are in bed, wherein we do not immediately slam each other with 500 questions and "we need to sort out XYZ" type things. STFU time is badly needed and is beneficial to both/all of us!

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Gary29 said:
Did you steal my child?! Our daughter is exactly the same (15 months now!!) it's a long old slog, I won't sugar coat it.

She wakes up around 8am every day, has an hour nap in the afternoon, but only in a moving pram, so as you say, zero respite for either of us, and then bath time 7pm, and has to be nursed/rocked to sleep at night, which usually takes a couple of hours! Missus finally puts her down around 10pm, we just can't seem to bring the bed time forward no matter what we do. Missus is knackered by 10pm as you would expect, so it's straight to bed to sleep.

My advice would be to try as hard as you can to maintain your relationship with mum, as that has been the only thing that has suffered a little, just due to the fact that we don't get to spend any time together as a couple, which we expected, just not to this degree!

But by mercy of all mercies, we did manage to settle her at 7.30pm last night, bottle of red wine on the sofa watching netflix together, absolute BLISS! So there is hope, just work together and share the load as best you can before any resentment crops up from either side, it's the tiredness that gets you, so always think carefully before you say ANYHTHING out loud, tolerance levels are non-existent without sleep.

Good luck!
Sounds like she desperately needs some sleep training- I.e. no rocking to sleep, strict times of bed, not tolerance on letting her out etc.
We've done it with both of ours at around 7 months- absolute hell for a week or two, but then after that it was a breeze getting them to bed and asleep.

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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vonuber said:
Gary29 said:
Did you steal my child?! Our daughter is exactly the same (15 months now!!) it's a long old slog, I won't sugar coat it.

She wakes up around 8am every day, has an hour nap in the afternoon, but only in a moving pram, so as you say, zero respite for either of us, and then bath time 7pm, and has to be nursed/rocked to sleep at night, which usually takes a couple of hours! Missus finally puts her down around 10pm, we just can't seem to bring the bed time forward no matter what we do. Missus is knackered by 10pm as you would expect, so it's straight to bed to sleep.

My advice would be to try as hard as you can to maintain your relationship with mum, as that has been the only thing that has suffered a little, just due to the fact that we don't get to spend any time together as a couple, which we expected, just not to this degree!

But by mercy of all mercies, we did manage to settle her at 7.30pm last night, bottle of red wine on the sofa watching netflix together, absolute BLISS! So there is hope, just work together and share the load as best you can before any resentment crops up from either side, it's the tiredness that gets you, so always think carefully before you say ANYHTHING out loud, tolerance levels are non-existent without sleep.

Good luck!
Sounds like she desperately needs some sleep training- I.e. no rocking to sleep, strict times of bed, not tolerance on letting her out etc.
We've done it with both of ours at around 7 months- absolute hell for a week or two, but then after that it was a breeze getting them to bed and asleep.
agreed. Regular sleep issues past like, say.... 9 months or so, should probably see if training them out of it or breaking the habit in some way works. They only regularly need you at night when they are small. After that it's often habit and/or them working out they can get you to jump if they scream blue murder! I mean not like 100% this in every case but it's worth a pop. Night feeds and screaming for them is a classic habit. Unfortunately screaming it out is the most painful but most effective way... i mean just my opinion of course, but it worked for both of ours and they were both too old to be feeding at night. Often they are ready for a change too and can respond quickly to set a new normal.

A big factor too is daytime naps. Like massively important. The amount of people that let the kid sleep for hours and hours in the day and then wonder why they sleep stly at night is incredible. However it can be even more sensitive than that... i think with our lad (just turned 1 year) even an extra 30 mins (or 30 mins less) in the day can make or break. In any case he often starts making weird noises from like 4am. He then seems to wake up and go back to sleep alternately until about 6am. I really hope this habit changes as it's almost worse than him waking up twice for a bottle earlier in the night, like a few months ago.

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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We had about 4 days of screams as if they were being tortured to death and then they were fine.
It was a tough 4 days though, really gets to you.

Echo the naps in the afternoon too, the sooner you can cut them out the better. Sometimes they will just collapse from tiredness, which is fair enough, but definitely no planned ones.

Of course that worked for us, and ymmv.

richatnort

3,026 posts

132 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Our 5 month has 2 30 min naps normally in the afternoon and that's it but then sleeps 7-6 at the minute. The afternoon naps are certainly harder to crack than morning ones where she can sleep anywhere from 30 mins to 2 hours but we allow that in the morning but not at night and after 5pm no naps at all then until 7 even if she missed one of the those afternoon naps. Seems to work for us so far so will try and continue it!

She also knows her routine now and winge cries when we get her dressed for bed as though she knows it's bed time but as soon as she's in her bed with a dummy in she stops and self sooths

Nola25

224 posts

52 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Some great advice on here all, so much so I’m copying into notes so I can refer back to it when the little man arrives, thank you to all that have posted the little snippets that come from real life experiences.

vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Nola25 said:
Some great advice on here all, so much so I’m copying into notes so I can refer back to it when the little man arrives, thank you to all that have posted the little snippets that come from real life experiences.
It's one of the best threads on PH. Occasionally some knob pops in to say "OMG it's mumsnet" but they are short lived...

Lazadude

1,732 posts

162 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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For balance, have done no sleep training (because other half doesn't want to) but we have been doing routines before bed. (PJs - teeth - potty - book - bed) We generally get 8-7. Took until she was over 2 though to stop needing something at 3am...

I would have happily done some training, have a camera in her room so can watch her if needed. Wife wouldn't do it, although it's funny since she's the one that moans about not getting uninterrupted sleep....

Peanut Gallery

2,428 posts

111 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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Lazadude said:
For balance, have done no sleep training (because other half doesn't want to) but we have been doing routines before bed. (PJs - teeth - potty - book - bed) We generally get 8-7. Took until she was over 2 though to stop needing something at 3am...

I would have happily done some training, have a camera in her room so can watch her if needed. Wife wouldn't do it, although it's funny since she's the one that moans about not getting uninterrupted sleep....
Another no trainer here. A routine was starting 10 to 9, but...

SWBO currently in early labour with no2. Here we go again.

theboss

6,919 posts

220 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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It’s all kicked off for me - waters broke at 4am and we’re in the hospital in the early stages of labour bounce

Lazadude

1,732 posts

162 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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Good luck both. interesting next day or so.

richatnort

3,026 posts

132 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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Good luck guys let us know how you get on & dedication for updating PH through that laugh