Any other expectant Dads?

Any other expectant Dads?

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richatnort

3,026 posts

132 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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dirtbiker said:
Anyone else working from home due to CV and struggling? My wife is on maternity leave and finding it quite hard because all of the baby classes are cancelled and she feels guilty about wanting to go out to meet friends. I'm trying to do my bit working remotely but finding that she's quite resentful that I'm not doing more with the baby - not easy at all!

I'm also meant to be doing a month of shared parental leave in April (my wife was planning to go back to work but she's working for an Engineering Consultancy which will probably have very little for her to do because all of the Oil & Gas operators have scaled things back) - really not sure how that's going to work out!

Our little one is nine months and is meant to be starting nursery in May, who knows whether that's going to go ahead!

Not looking for answers, just intrigued as to whether anyone else is having a tricky work/life balance! Guess it's going to get even harder for some once the schools close to most kids!
Yeh same situation here mate! i'm wfh now full time with my wife & 7 month old. Wife is feeling very isolated but is going for walks with her to make sure she's getting some fresh air but not in anywhere or around anyone if can be avoided. She has been having facetime with mums & i think they might be setting up a mini play group over Zoom, something i'm going to set up for her & share with other mums so they could do a class like baby sensory where they all do it together but with things they have at home and can have a chin wag.

I had the "you're not helping for two days but once baby had gone to bed sat with some wine & i explained i can she she's getting frustrated but we have to treat it like i was in the office but maybe i can take my lunch and spend it with the baby and give her an hour off & if i'm making a drink make her one, we all need to take breaks just like we do in the office so in those where i go to the toilet, have a drink just pop my head in give her a smile & see if she's doing OK and wants a drink.

All very strange times!

chip*

1,020 posts

229 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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We were informed yesterday by our nursery that they are closing next week to all except for key working parents. The nursery decided to suspend all payment from the non-key working parent until they re-open again (guess they are following Gov guidelines on this). Nice touch by our nursery given the agreement state clearly we are liable to pay even on closures. Minimal disruption to us as we are both full time parents, but with both school and nursery closing down today, I think it will be a rough few weeks ahead for all working parents. frown

malks222

1,854 posts

140 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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richatnort said:
dirtbiker said:
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similar position here, except only got 12wk old baby. We’re obviously not too far into this, but still trying to get out most days for a walk to the park.

our downsides are mrs malks works in events, the company she works for basically has no form of income until this blows over. so she’s just ignoring that side of things as there is no point even giving it thought as there is zero we can do! thankfully her mat pay is just a bonus and we’re saving cash by not doing anything.

biggest downer tho is family- no contact with my parents, who live reasonably close by, but don’t want the risk of either of us passing this either directions. also mrs malks mum live in northern ireland (alone) so won’t be seeing us for potentially quite a while. made even worse by her kinda having to see this out by staying on her own.

but if it keeps us all safe, then we just have to ride it out!

Jcwjosh

953 posts

113 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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My patner is 32 weeks - our bathroom is being re-done at the moment. The guy was off last week for 3 days very ill. Today he tells us he thinks he had/has corona virus - the day my partner has to begin working from home... Thanks mate

We have had no shower or ability to wash properly at home for 2.5 weeks so far and they aim to finish by next friday.. What can i do ? We want a clean house with nobody in it but have to push through to get the shower room finished and tiled before baby arrives.

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Anyone fancy having 2 darling little children over the next 12 weeks or so?

They come supplied with all clothing etc.

Kev_Mk3

2,779 posts

96 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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We went for our 20 week scan yesterday only for me to be refused entry due to the C virus.

Wife & I where obviously upset by this as its a special time but I appreciate the circumstances. I had to go sit in the car and wait. Baby decided to be awkward and not play ball, curling up so they couldn't get a decent scan biggrin (that's my child!) From what they could tell all is well but rebooked for 2 weeks to check again. Hopefully I can go in who knows but mrs got permission to facetime me once they had done it all so I could see so wasn't that bad. Looking to book a private scan soon so I can see more.

Still waiting on our house move but we caved the other day and bought furniture. Not nursery stuff but normal furniture from a shop so the child can use it for longer than a baby lol Colours are spot on with the paint and room design we have ready to go and cost £300 rather than £1000 so even better on my wallet laugh

Just need to move then the decorating starts.

Kev_Mk3

2,779 posts

96 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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John Lewis have just text to say they have cancelled our appointment - assuming its Virus related as they have said nothing more

vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Kev_Mk3 said:
John Lewis have just text to say they have cancelled our appointment - assuming its Virus related as they have said nothing more
A lot of staff have been redeployed to Waitrose

Nemophilist

2,972 posts

182 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Kev_Mk3 said:
John Lewis have just text to say they have cancelled our appointment - assuming its Virus related as they have said nothing more
They are closing all stores from 23rd and going online only

Davie

4,752 posts

216 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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I don't post very often, but when I do....

I'm struggling.

Quick back story is we have a 2.5yr old and he's great but has had a disrupted start thanks to some issues with our house which resulted in moving twice and new jobs but we'd settled in to a routine of late with a view to selling our current house soon and relocating back to civilisation. I work part time as does my wife, it allows us to share childcare minus any cost so it's working ok for the time being. Talk of a second child had always featured and in December we decided to try... or at least stop not trying and come January, it was good news.

Granted, not the best timing as my wife had a week previously left a job she really hated and wasn't coping with but has since moved back to a private nursery and the hours and pace suit her much better, thus she's far happier which can only be a good thing. I continue to work part time and the plan for this year was to ready the house, get it sold and return to where we lived originally and finally relax. All was going well with the house being readied, wife doing well at work and first scan revealed no concerns. Smashing.

Then Covid 19 arrived.

Up until a few days ago we were probably both a bit ignorant / blind / unaware and thus had listened to the basics, decided it was a strain of the flu and life goes on but as things have progressed and the severity of the situation emerged, I started to take a bit more notice. Wife however is a bit stubborn and I'm sure some will comment but she's been given some conflicting advice, as most of us have. Initially there was no additional risk for pregnant women and she carried on at work, as did I and that was fine. She called the midwife, midwife said no need to worry... just use common sense / basic hygiene and we'll keep in touch. Again, that's fine and carry on as usual.

We were at a wedding last week (I know, I know...) and this weekend have gotten on with life and today went to the beach for a walk. I've just come from work, I drive for a supermarket and so have just had their latest blurb and I'm deemed a key worker but they have increased their level of "concern" shall we say thus have new measures in place to limit the risk to staff, drivers included. Meanwhile, my wife's place of work have now closed and will reopen to the children of key workers and vunerable familes. My wife raised her concerns to this on Friday given she'll be exposed to more people in closer proximity and thus, this weekend she was quite unsure of what to do.

However, I think we've both undestimated the severity of the situation that is developing and the more I read, the more concerned I'm becoming. I know it's not a flu and I know the logic behind social distancing and so on but my wife isn't so convinced, I wouldn't say stubborn but just doesn't seem to quite grasp the risks as yet and doesn't want to be under house arrest. This hasn't been helped by the media, hearsay and her feeling like she couldn't or wouldn't cope being at home all day and so part of her feels that maintaining some sort of normality is best, again perhaps fuelled by the fact we had "the plan" for a new life within our reaches and the harsh relaity is, that may not happen and I think she's taking that very hard too.

My immediate concern is that I've been reading online... never a good idea but it led me to Wikipedia and more so, the symptoms of Covid-19, namely the milder ones that 80% of people may show. Headaches, runny nose, dry throat and so on. I'be had a dry throat for a few days but brushed it off as seasonal / in and out of a van all day / did my shed roof and she's had similar but then again my little boy has had the usual toddler gunged up nose / night time sporadic cough but nothing you wouldn't brush of as a bit of a head cold and such like and had I not been Googling, I'd have happily left it at that.... but I have been Googling and it's resulted in a full blown argument, hence I'm typing this from the sofa at 1am and she's gone to bed angry and upset and stating we're not on the same page with this anymore.

So that's my issue, fuelled by being overwhelmed by information and yet some of it contradictory. Part of me is arguing that she needs to think about self isolating, not just for her benefit but everybody else and that her dry through may not be that simple and thus maybe it's already reared it's ugly head but she remains less sure of that and whilst seems to be leaning towards not going to work next week (good!) she's not buying in to the stay at home and isolate thing, though agrees we need to be sensible. She did argue that I should then not be going to work but my work are going with the "constant cough / fever" guidelines as per the government and none of us have had that.

Obviously as I'm sure many of you will appreciate, she's at the tired, emotional, hormonal stage and juggling a job she feels she needs to do as its a service to help those "key workers" and she's also juggling a toddler so trying to have a rational discussion that isn't held at 11pm when we're both knackered is impossible and thus, I'm really not sure what I should be doing or need to be doing as father / husband / provider / protector and then how to try and get he onboard without it ending in tears. Naturally I'm worried about her health, our toddler and the baby even though on the latter front, the midwife team seem unphased though advised us to call a day ahead of her next scan (Thursday) to "check all is well" before coming in which suggests this changes daily and thus the advice that they gave her, ie "there's no further risk as far as we know" may be outdated. I'm even debating calling the midwife to ask if she'd help try and reign my wife in as I think she's decided I'm falling in to the doomsday camp when I'm not, but I'm also unsure what the best course of actions is for us all.

Definitely worrying times and sadly, if the soon to be house for sale situation and all it's stress hadn't overshadowed the joy of having a baby, you're damn sure this crap has. We're 26 weeks in and yet have only briefly touched on some names over a rushed dinner a couple of nights and she's cleared out and sorted some baby stuff. In fact, I can go a few days and nigh on forget there's a baby coming in August... the tragic thing is we both half jokingly said that one day it'll arrive and take us both by surprise. The latest global situation and the situation within our four walls is doing nothing to change that and so yes, sadly whilst we're delighted... this time round just doesn't feel the same and that's hard to bear but then again, not as hard as dealing with the severe consequences of Covid 19 I suspect.

Essay over, apologies but sometimes it's hard to find the time or the place so figured this was as good as any and it goes without saying, I appreciate any brotherly advice on this one and if nothing else, putting it in writing helps clear the mind a bit.

Stay safe and look after the family as best you can gents... which is perhaps the answer I'm looking for.

The Moose

22,865 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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We are expecting end of June. A couple of months before you it seems.

I have also read a load about this on the internet and the general consensus seems to be that there just isn't really enough data to come to any scientific conclusion. Yet.

Having said that, I also researched other coronaviruses and I found an increase in either still birth rates or pre-term labor rates (neither of which are good!!).

We had our latest checkup last week. The obstetrician was downplaying CV19 to my wife, however when I pushed a little it was clear it was a real concern for him. We have made some changes. Our 1 year old is not going to school (daycare) any more and my wife is going to do what little work she can, from home. I have cancelled all face-to-face meetings and appointments and only going out to public places when absolutely necessary.

I think your wife needs a (metaphorical!) smack across the chops to start taking this more seriously. Yes, there are hormones flying around, but you are both adults and you BOTH need to actually communicate like adults.

What I would probably do is to start out with an apology. I would apologise for how you went crazy researching all about it, effectively leaving her behind. The reason you did this was because of the love you have for her and your yet unborn child. Maybe you could share with her 4 or 5 links and then take little Timmy out into the garden for an hour while she reads about it so that she can acquire the information that you have.

Ultimately, what you need to do is to establish a common ground "why". Once you both are in agreement about why you should socially distance etc, it'll be so much easier for you both to work together to get to the end goal. If you don't establish the common why, you'll both be pulling in opposite directions and you'll end up killing each other.

She should 100% stop work...and so should you.

The Moose

22,865 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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On a slightly happier note, our little Emma turned 1 this week. I can’t believe the time has flown by so quick. I remember posting on this thread having found out we were expecting...and now number 2 is well on his way.

Anyway, gratuitous birthday photo:

Gazzas86

1,709 posts

172 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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My wife's best friend is a front line nurse at a hospital in the Midlands, She went out on a walk with her at the weekend, (maintaining social distance etc), She told her a woman who was 24 weeks pregnant passed away including baby from the virus a few days back, leaving the dad to raise a toddler on his own. I wasn't sure whether to post it or not, as its not in the media and i cant provide a source. Fellas, just keep your loved ones safe, it really can affect anyone. I wake up each morning and look at my wife and 18 Month old girl and think how lucky i am to have them in my life, its not worth the risk.

Davie

4,752 posts

216 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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The Moose said:
We are expecting end of June. A couple of months before you it seems.

I have also read a load about this on the internet and the general consensus seems to be that there just isn't really enough data to come to any scientific conclusion. Yet.

Having said that, I also researched other coronaviruses and I found an increase in either still birth rates or pre-term labor rates (neither of which are good!!).

We had our latest checkup last week. The obstetrician was downplaying CV19 to my wife, however when I pushed a little it was clear it was a real concern for him. We have made some changes. Our 1 year old is not going to school (daycare) any more and my wife is going to do what little work she can, from home. I have cancelled all face-to-face meetings and appointments and only going out to public places when absolutely necessary.

I think your wife needs a (metaphorical!) smack across the chops to start taking this more seriously. Yes, there are hormones flying around, but you are both adults and you BOTH need to actually communicate like adults.

What I would probably do is to start out with an apology. I would apologise for how you went crazy researching all about it, effectively leaving her behind. The reason you did this was because of the love you have for her and your yet unborn child. Maybe you could share with her 4 or 5 links and then take little Timmy out into the garden for an hour while she reads about it so that she can acquire the information that you have.

Ultimately, what you need to do is to establish a common ground "why". Once you both are in agreement about why you should socially distance etc, it'll be so much easier for you both to work together to get to the end goal. If you don't establish the common why, you'll both be pulling in opposite directions and you'll end up killing each other.

She should 100% stop work...and so should you.
Thanks.

I mulled it over last night, probably read too much online and this morning spoke to my employer advising that past few days we've both been a bit goggy, sore throat and I had a headache for a couple of days and explained that given my wife is pregnant, I was really quite unsure of what course of action I should be taking. Bit of a script came back, basically if anybody in the house has shown ANY symptoms then they advise self isolation. However, there was no further elaboration if that was symptoms as in cough and fever or symptoms as have been seen in milder cases, eg headaches, throat etc. But ultimately, I am out and about daily and despite measures being in place to minimise risk, it's still risk and given she is pregnant thus deemed high risk (though she still maintains she isn't) then here we are.

She's a little less upset this morning and seems to be more on board though still is confused by it all and is struggling to get her head round the severity of the situation, which I'm sure most of us are. That's not helped by others around her who don't perhaps share the same views, which again seems to be a common issue and so her Mum seems to think the risks for me to carry on working are low and that the benefits to others outweigh said risks... but ultimately I risk my wife and if our current symptoms are just a cold etc, then what's to say that being infected may not pose serious implications. The reality seems to be, we simply don't know but need to minimise risk in whatever capacity possible but it's definitely difficult to find common ground.

So, on that note I'm now self isolating as far as my work are concerned and I feel like an absolute fraud as I hate being off work and part of me thinks this is just a common cold / the result of a day in dusty garage etc and I should be at work, helping feed the nation but on the other hand part of me simply doesn't know if I have Covid 19 symptoms and if I do, then I'm putting others at risk and if I don't, by carrying on at work I'm massively increasing the risk to myself and thus, to her ladyship. Though she's quite correctly pointed out that if all key workers self isolate on those grounds, the country will crumble... she has a point, I think. But do we look after number one or look after each other or indeed strangers first and foremost? But I digress and there is probably no right or wrong as it seems "one size" does not fit all just now and so we're now getting our head round self isolation with a toddler and empty cupboards as I didn't buy in to this stocking up malarky last week.

But, on a more positive note... said toddler seems on better form today and has demonstrated this by tipping an entire box of Cheerios on the kitchen floor and shouting abuse at Peppa Pig for the past hour. Wife is trying to contact the midwife team ahead of Thursday's planned scan and also now fretting about the fact she won't be paid and there's conflicting advice regarding her self isolating for 12 weeks or not... which adds more confusion as I'm not sure how that works after 14 days for me, assuming we even have any symptoms or not!

It's a mindf*ck out there!

Davie

4,752 posts

216 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Gazzas86 said:
My wife's best friend is a front line nurse at a hospital in the Midlands, She went out on a walk with her at the weekend, (maintaining social distance etc), She told her a woman who was 24 weeks pregnant passed away including baby from the virus a few days back, leaving the dad to raise a toddler on his own. I wasn't sure whether to post it or not, as its not in the media and i cant provide a source. Fellas, just keep your loved ones safe, it really can affect anyone. I wake up each morning and look at my wife and 18 Month old girl and think how lucky i am to have them in my life, its not worth the risk.
That's quite the reality strike and also if true, then shows how sanitised the information we're getting through the media actually is. Reading online and speaking to those within the healthcare profession seems to portray a somewhat grimmer picture than the media would have us believe and I think that's perhaps why a lot people aren't taking it, or weren't taking it as seriously. Myself included. However, conversely if they gave it to us warts and all, there would be hysteria and that's probably create further issues. It doesn't feel real and I think that's why I'm struggling to make sense of it all and make the "right" decision as the implications of getting it wrong don't bear thinking about.

I think you've pretty much nailed it... it's simply not worth the risk.

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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28 weeks now and The Jiffle Queen has gone for her whooping cough jab today and we have a scan tomorrow. Self isolating as much as possible. We are both in positive mood, little one keeps moving and kicking and we are good company for each other. The horse is being good as gold (He has from the start) ..... he sniffed her when she was first pregnant and has been so gentle with her all of the time. He was even protective of her when they used to go out for walks which is unusual for a flight animal

The advice surely has to be if pregnant, minimise contact with everyone and it's you're the spouse/partner, do the same.

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Gazzas86 said:
My wife's best friend is a front line nurse at a hospital in the Midlands, She went out on a walk with her at the weekend, (maintaining social distance etc), She told her a woman who was 24 weeks pregnant passed away including baby from the virus a few days back, leaving the dad to raise a toddler on his own. I wasn't sure whether to post it or not, as its not in the media and i cant provide a source. Fellas, just keep your loved ones safe, it really can affect anyone. I wake up each morning and look at my wife and 18 Month old girl and think how lucky i am to have them in my life, its not worth the risk.
whilst sad if real, one of the most worrying thing about the virus for me is the 'my mate has a mate who has a neighbour who knows a miscellaneous expert and THEY said..." type stuff. Nearly always some extreme sensational scare story. You can obviously do what you feel is right, but I think we need to not share things we can't corroborate.

Nemophilist

2,972 posts

182 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Blown2CV said:
Gazzas86 said:
My wife's best friend is a front line nurse at a hospital in the Midlands, She went out on a walk with her at the weekend, (maintaining social distance etc), She told her a woman who was 24 weeks pregnant passed away including baby from the virus a few days back, leaving the dad to raise a toddler on his own. I wasn't sure whether to post it or not, as its not in the media and i cant provide a source. Fellas, just keep your loved ones safe, it really can affect anyone. I wake up each morning and look at my wife and 18 Month old girl and think how lucky i am to have them in my life, its not worth the risk.
whilst sad if real, one of the most worrying thing about the virus for me is the 'my mate has a mate who has a neighbour who knows a miscellaneous expert and THEY said..." type stuff. Nearly always some extreme sensational scare story. You can obviously do what you feel is right, but I think we need to not share things we can't corroborate.
Yes this has scared me stless

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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I write this stood outside the hospital as my wife has her scan. All is good but I’m not allowed in to see the doctor or the scan which is clearly the right decision but upsetting (I’m not complaining )
All seems to be good and as I’m at the hospital I don’t feel I am missing out too much

Just feel lucky to be in a good position. Now for more isolation and looking after the Jiffle Queen and Baby Jiffle

Kev_Mk3

2,779 posts

96 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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The jiffle king said:
I write this stood outside the hospital as my wife has her scan. All is good but I’m not allowed in to see the doctor or the scan which is clearly the right decision but upsetting (I’m not complaining )
All seems to be good and as I’m at the hospital I don’t feel I am missing out too much

Just feel lucky to be in a good position. Now for more isolation and looking after the Jiffle Queen and Baby Jiffle
Same position as me on Friday. I am going into Isolation with the wife this week as feel its for the best