Any other expectant Dads?

Any other expectant Dads?

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okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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Gazzas86 said:
My Wife would never do this, our daughter has just turned 2, ends up in our bed every night which is fine, its superking, but still, she hasn't slept a full night in her bed since birth.

My wife works in Children's services, and likes to remind me of all her qualifications/experience on what children needs blah blah,

When i suggested sleep training which is essentially what you have done, i was 'told' about all the negatives this bring later in life, why would you stop being a parent between 7pm-7am, your teaching them helplessness not sleep training etc etc etc etc.

I guess its not for everyone, but if it works for you then happy days (nights)
I'd argue the problems it brings later in life, are what you have right now, a kid who sleeps with you each night, I've been told and read endlessly that habits are very easy to change and such before 6 months, far harder after, and I imagine at 2 its really tough. In that baby secrets book what made me not give in was stories of kids that still need this or that in the night when they're 1 or 2, sorry but that would not be acceptable to me if I could at all help it!

I think this is what night nannies find the biggest issue with training kids, it's not the kids most often, it's the parents, that's what the one I had said. So many stories she gave us about situations she had seen, some were mental, like babies sleeping in extreme temperatures and the mothers not working out why they won't settle, or massaging them for 3 hours every night or something when they just want to sleep.

Re the helplessness bit, the proof is in the pudding I guess, last night was just one feed at 3am and he woke at 6.30am, all in his own bed in his own room. On the 21st of October, he woke up 5 times between 1am and 5.30am. And the record perhaps the week before was 12 wake ups between 7pm-7am. Now we're at one, and a lot of it is to do with the training techniques. It isn't about just endlessly leaving them to scream the place down, but its all gradual, and its really helped here.

richatnort

3,026 posts

131 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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I'm in team sleep training, we started at about 4 months and since then she's slept through the night from 7-5:30-06:30 depending on the day. It's given the wife and I our life back in the evenings for us to be able to do things we enjoy or spend some time together and not have to worry about her waking in the night.

We did sleep and support rather than cry it out so we do go in but we don't pick her up out of the cot just sit by it and calm her down then she self sooths herself back down. I can't say we've had to do that more than a handful of times in 6 months. I have no regrets and don't feel she has had any effects from it, we didn't like cry it out but found the stay and support worked much better and we felt better for it.

Nola25

223 posts

51 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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Hi

Can anyone offer any help with our boy and sleeping at night?

He’s just under 5 months old and he’s been in a grobag for about 3 months. Napping in the day he’s fine with arms out but at night he’s goes absolutely nuts as soon as he’s in his cot.

He sufferers from Moro reflex quite badly, we initially thought his silent reflux was causing him to thrash around but we have that under control now and the HV believes it’s Moro. He was a lively baby in the womb too.

We’ve tried both arms out, one in, one out, different styles of grobags but he only settles when he’s on us, as a soon as he goes back in his cot, he’s like a cat in a bag.

He struggles to self sooth and only really goes off with a dummy, when that falls out he’s off (and I can’t gaffer tape it in😄)

Oh and It looks like he’s teething too!

We’re currently sleeping in shifts in separate rooms so we can actually get a little sleep as the most he sleeps for at night in one hit is around an hour.

Any ideas that we can try, not over concerned about us being tired but his quality of sleep at night isn’t doing him any good


okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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Tried the ‘love to dream up transition swaddle’ ?

Game changer for us. My son is very active at night and would break out of any swaddle. But hated not being able to move his arms up in those grow bag things. This product has been really good for us.

https://www.lovetodream.co.uk/product/love-to-swad...


Peanut Gallery

2,428 posts

110 months

Friday 13th November 2020
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Just to say we would know that my eldest was fast asleep when her arms shot out sideways. As soon as they went out, we knew she was going to be asleep for ages! - if we tried tucking her arms in she would wake up and grumble.

The youngest now just wants to sleep on his front, face down, hard into the mattress. If we roll him over, he wakes up, crawls around, and then goes back to sleep face down again...

thebraketester

14,229 posts

138 months

Sunday 22nd November 2020
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So at 4 weeks she has now decided that she will only settle if held, and really doesn’t like being in the cot on her own.

Is this a feature?

malks222

1,854 posts

139 months

Sunday 22nd November 2020
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sadly this can be a feature!

i would say until we moved to the big cot (zero interest in her pram bassinet we used as a moses basket) in her own room (about 16wks) for ‘day time naps’ we were holding her for most of day naps. she’d sleep in the pram of our a walk though, so would normally go a walk for at least one nap a day.

our also had this great timer feature where she had a perfect 31minute countdown. it took until 5-6months until we would regularly get a decent day nap of an hour or so.

we didn’t try and do anything/ change much for day times because she always slept well at night. was in her own room from about week 20 and most nights only woke once for a change/ feed. and maybe about 8 months dropped the night feed and now at 10 months we are sleeping 7:30pm- 7:00am with prob 90-95% success.

thatsprettyshady

1,824 posts

165 months

Sunday 22nd November 2020
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thebraketester said:
So at 4 weeks she has now decided that she will only settle if held, and really doesn’t like being in the cot on her own.

Is this a feature?
Yup, ours will only sleep on my OH chest at the moment.

The Moose

22,847 posts

209 months

Sunday 22nd November 2020
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That’s a feature! Try putting her on her front (I know I know)

fourstardan

4,277 posts

144 months

Sunday 22nd November 2020
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I think sleep positions is just a case of sticking through it and not forming preferences.

My little man stops moaning when in certain positions but we've made it a habit to get him to sleep on his back in the day.


thebraketester

14,229 posts

138 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Phew... thats god its not just us then. Relaying your messages to my wife helped... so thanks for them beer


okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Sleepyhead might help - makes them feel cocooned a little. Not meant to have them sleep in there but probably safer than face down as said above...

dirtbiker

1,189 posts

166 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Well, that's our 12-week scan done last week and all is looking good so I'm back in the thread!

Our daughter is 17 months and will be just turning two as the new baby arrives so we're in for an exciting summer 2021!

Don't know the sex yet but will probably find out just to make clothing choices easier. I don't think we're planning to do much differently second time around other than to keep giving a bottle so that my wife can get at least a few hours to herself (the first one refused the bottle at 6 weeks and never really took to it ever again - big mistake!).

Can't wait to be honest, I've loved being a first time Dad and our toddler is so much fun just now!

Blown2CV

28,811 posts

203 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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I can't remember if there is a particular age you can do this from, but if it's possibly reflux then you can bundle a couple of rolled up towels under the mattress at the head end to tilt them up from the horizontal a bit in their sleep. Or there is a thing called a wedgehog which is just basically a soft wedge thing which does the same. Obviously ensure safe sleep guidelines adhered to and don't create a gap they can roll into etc.

thebraketester

14,229 posts

138 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Does anyone else have issues with the tommee tippee anti colic bottles pissing milk everywhere when they are turned back the ‘right way around’ half way through feeding. Sick to the back teeth of milk pissing everywhere out of the vent holes. :-(

okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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thebraketester said:
Does anyone else have issues with the tommee tippee anti colic bottles pissing milk everywhere when they are turned back the ‘right way around’ half way through feeding. Sick to the back teeth of milk pissing everywhere out of the vent holes. :-(
You can get ones with no vent, the ones we have don't have vents.

We moved to teat 3 at about 3 months though, much better we found.

fourstardan

4,277 posts

144 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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I must say we have MAM and they are brilliant.

We had a TT I had to use once and it just didn't feel as easy to use.

Tommie Prep machine is an absolute stonker of a buy though for formula.

fourstardan

4,277 posts

144 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Whats the view on family visits over xmas now the rules have changed.

Is it high risk to increase exposure?

okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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I don’t think a single child has karked it at the ha ds of Covid have they?


malks222

1,854 posts

139 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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I’m not concerned about corona, but my christmas would potentially involve a trip to northern ireland. I’m not sure i want the added hassle of potentially getting stuck there longer than planned or having to mess about with travel plans.

also added complication of it being her first birthday on hogmanay, family would like to see her.

i’ll definitely see my family at some point, they are only 40mins away, but the wives in northern ireland might miss out this year