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[Eddie Strohacker]

Oakey said:

come on, we should be able to work this out

Dimensions of a 1.7kg box:

Package Dimensions
40 x 32.4 x 30 cm

What's interesting about that though is 40cm goes into 1200 3 times & 32.4 goes into 1000 3.08. Exactly aligned on one side of a standard pallet & a little overhang on the other to account for lateral movement in transit. It's all been carefully worked out.

Good luck with the height though.

[Fastchas]

mcflurry said:

It may have been full of the spuds going to the factory, weighing more than the crisps going to market?

They would be delivered by the spud merchants on their livered wagons, shirley?

[4x4Tyke]

My reckoning.

30g-50g a pack, 32-48 bags in a box is 1-2 Kilos.

Perhaps 30 Boxes (five rows of 6) to a pallet tops out about 60 Kilos.

24 Pallets is under 1.5 metric tons so even doubled stacked is light load.

-- edit --

The trailer will be heavier than the load, 6-8 tonnes plus the tractor.

Edited by 4x4Tyke on Friday 28th July 11:17

[Eddie Strohacker]

Fastchas said:

They would be delivered by the spud merchants on their livered wagons, shirley?

Most will, but they'll definitely use their own fleet to collect some. Distribution is a flat out cost, companies cottoned on years ago you can defray it by reloading the trucks with your inbound stock.

[Eddie Strohacker]

4x4Tyke said:

My reckoning.

30g-50g a pack, 32-48 bags in a box is 1-2 Kilos.

Perhaps 30 Boxes (five rows of 6) to a pallet tops out about 60 Kilos.

24 Pallets is under 1.5 metric tons so even doubled stacked is light load.

Just asked my crisps customer what we do. Turns out it's 60g/bag x 12/case x 48cs/pallet so give or take the varying pack sizes, 40kg per pallet + the pallet = 65kg x 26 = 1.4tons/load, which means I was talking bks last night.

15,000 bags per load-ish. I can't say what the line is, but we do that every day, seven days a week & Tesco hold about 12 hours cover which means they're selling around 100,000 individual bags per week & that's one line retailing at 95p a go in a business that has a range roughly of 30k lines, for an indication of the size of that operation.

[FoxtrotOscar1]

People mentioning the 56pmh speed limiter...

Surely If truck A weights maximum 44t and the Walkers truck weighs less, say 22t then the Walkers truck will manage to stick to the 56mph limiter easier than the heavier laden truck. (assuming same engine power etc)

OP mentioned they were travelling uphill.

[4x4Tyke]

Eddie Strohacker said:

4x4Tyke said:

My reckoning.

30g-50g a pack, 32-48 bags in a box is 1-2 Kilos.

Perhaps 30 Boxes (five rows of 6) to a pallet tops out about 60 Kilos.

24 Pallets is under 1.5 metric tons so even doubled stacked is light load.

Just asked my crisps customer what we do. Turns out it's 60g/bag x 12/case x 48cs/pallet so give or take the varying pack sizes, 40kg per pallet + the pallet = 65kg x 26 = 1.4tons/load, which means I was talking bks last night.

15,000 bags per load-ish. I can't say what the line is, but we do that every day, seven days a week & Tesco hold about 12 hours cover which means they're selling around 100,000 individual bags per week & that's one line retailing at 95p a go in a business that has a range roughly of 30k lines, for an indication of the size of that operation.

I posted before I read your post and noticed your weights, went back to see were I was out.

Tins are about 300-400g so your original pallet weights would be right for those.

[Eddie Strohacker]

4x4Tyke said:

I posted before I read your post and noticed your weights, went back to see were I was out.

Tins are about 300-400g so your original pallet weights would be right for those.

Yes, we do other lines that tally with the original numbers but your post prompted me to think again.

[twing]

Who's to say it was filled with crisps? It could have anything inside regardless of the decals.

[GAjon]

Crinkle cuts, much thicker.

[Europa1]

mcflurry said:

It may have been full of the spuds going to the factory, weighing more than the crisps going to market?

Unlikely in a curtainsider.

[Eddie Strohacker]

Europa1 said:

Unlikely in a curtainsider.

I know what you mean but there's bulk bags, stillages, lots of ways to shift spuds to a factory's requirement.

[SpeckledJim]

FoxtrotOscar1 said:

People mentioning the 56pmh speed limiter...

Surely If truck A weights maximum 44t and the Walkers truck weighs less, say 22t then the Walkers truck will manage to stick to the 56mph limiter easier than the heavier laden truck. (assuming same engine power etc)

OP mentioned they were travelling uphill.

A wagon full of crisps won't struggle to stay at 56mph. But neither would a fully laden one unless it's a proper proper hill.

The differences will be one wagon's limiter at 56.345mph and the other one's at 56.834mph.

[bobtail4x4]

generationx said:

Is it an aguement about how to spell "arguement"?

possibly

[chow pan toon]

Grahamdub said:

If it was carrying anything like the bags of crisps I've had lately, it was probably 3/4 empty

[Frank7]

All this reminds me of the old chestnut heard at school.
Which is heaviest, one ton of feathers, or one ton of lead?
The clever kids, who didn't always include me, would say
that they both weigh the same, one ton.

[pixelatedJH]

On a vaguely related note, are the limiters clever enough to brake the wheels downhill? Was behind a UK-reg lorry doing 70 downhill (indicated on my speedo) the other day and had thought that the limiters would take that in to account

[NoIP]

pixelatedJH said:

On a vaguely related note, are the limiters clever enough to brake the wheels downhill? Was behind a UK-reg lorry doing 70 downhill (indicated on my speedo) the other day and had thought that the limiters would take that in to account

Depends on a lot of things. Virtually all the modern artics have overrun protection wired in to the CC whereby the truck will (engine) brake itself if the overrun speed reaches a certain point with the CC engaged. Some are better at it than others and some have more adjustment than others. However if you disengage the CC or put your foot to the floor to override the CC then the truck will continue increasing speed down the hill. Also note than most modern trucks drop into neutral on downhill stretches so if you have some weight on you very quickly gather pace. Again, you can set that on/off by changing one of the settings on the exhaust brake on some models.

I use the overrun a lot and will often let it run to 65-70 down hills as it's the perfect opportunity to quickly get past other trucks that are in your space. Most other truckers st themselves when they get to 60 because they think they'll get the sack if they get a tacho overspeed warning but no such lunacy at the places I drive for.

[WilsonWilson]

Frank7 said:

All this reminds me of the old chestnut heard at school.
Which is heaviest, one ton of feathers, or one ton of lead?
The clever kids, who didn't always include me, would say
that they both weigh the same, one ton.

[NDA]

WilsonWilson said:

Frank7 said:

All this reminds me of the old chestnut heard at school.
Which is heaviest, one ton of feathers, or one ton of lead?
The clever kids, who didn't always include me, would say
that they both weigh the same, one ton.

You said lead didn't you?