A bit council (Vol 3)
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Ari said:
- *Enters 'British' in Companies House search box - 4,217 matches found***
- * Enters 'England' in Companies House search box - 2,253 companies found***
Yeah, no one doing it...
If you're going to argue with statistics... at least make an effort.
captain_cynic said:
Ari said:
- *Enters 'British' in Companies House search box - 4,217 matches found***
- * Enters 'England' in Companies House search box - 2,253 companies found***
Yeah, no one doing it...
If you're going to argue with statistics... at least make an effort.
The assertion was that 'no one does it as is bad for business'.
The truth is that well over SIX THOUSAND companies and organisations do, or have done, exactly that.
If you want more detail, go knock yourself out, it's all there. But even if you take half of them away (unlikely), the truth is still that thousands do and the statement is nonsense.
It's a bit like those posts you see on Facebook from time to time where someone is claiming that an English flag somewhere has been banned and everyone jumps up and down claiming it's 'discusting'. Rarely any truth in it, but people do like to talk down any British or English association for some strange reason.
Ari said:
Seriously!? :laugh;
The assertion was that 'no one does it as is bad for business'.
The truth is that well over SIX THOUSAND companies and organisations do, or have done, exactly that.
Seriously (I cant add a laugh after that, because your understand of statistics is so bad, it's not even worth laughing at)?The assertion was that 'no one does it as is bad for business'.
The truth is that well over SIX THOUSAND companies and organisations do, or have done, exactly that.
Is that SIX THOUSAND out of TWELVE THOUSAND?
or SIX THOUSAND out of FIVE THOUSAND and SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND (unnecessary capitalisation just makes you look like a toss, so I'll put it in real numbers). Its 6,000 out of 5,700,000 or 0.1% of businesses.
And that is assuming all 6000 are active businesses... that site you searched lists names of defunct business as well. The 5.7 million figure is active businesses (in 2016).
Sorry, but the assertion that a lot of businesses in the UK have British or English in their name is well, a rubbish assertion and the evidence tends to support Shuvi's assumption which was solely to do with English, not British which is only 2,700 of those names (so nice attempt to pad the stats, but ultimately doomed against anyone paying attention).
Ari said:
It's a bit like those posts you see on Facebook from time to time where someone is claiming that an English flag somewhere has been banned and everyone jumps up and down claiming it's 'discusting'. Rarely any truth in it, but people do like to talk down any British or English association for some strange reason.
Actually its the opposite. Those posts are put up by people wanting to make trouble, and are happy to lie about it in order to get people's backs up. Shuvi just made a valid observation and gave his opinion as to why. Very few companies do have "English" in their name... As per your own assertion that only 2,700 out of 5.7 million have English in the title and at least some of those are dissolved.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/0382927...
Ari said:
- *Enters 'British' in Companies House search box - 4,217 matches found***
- * Enters 'England' in Companies House search box - 2,253 companies found***
Yeah, no one doing it...
Like that it would ensure that you captured anyone with the surname 'England' EG John England- Painters and Decorators..
colonel c said:
Perhaps the English regards themselves as British first and English second. With the silver-tongued Irish, stout Welsh and the plucky Scott’s its the other way round.
I think you are correct , but is that due to conditioning and a constant bombardment of slagging off anyone that flies the English Flag etc?And then you have all the Cornish and Yorkshire 'separatists' who will try to argue they are not English.
I think these days, a lot of people take it one step further and regard themselves as European first, British Second and then English, if pushed.
I think I need to start again as certain people are really struggling with basic comprehension.
Lets try this.
Easier?
Lets try this.
Shuvi McTupya said:
My point is only that it must be bad business to Demonstrate English pride or patriotism on a corporate level as I have never seen anyone doing it.
That's incorrect, in fact thousands do (either English or British).Easier?
Ari said:
I think I need to start again as certain people are really struggling with basic comprehension.
Lets try this.
Easier?
Whilst we're getting fussy, you'll have to delete all the people named English who just gave their company the same name... Lets try this.
Shuvi McTupya said:
My point is only that it must be bad business to Demonstrate English pride or patriotism on a corporate level as I have never seen anyone doing it.
That's incorrect, in fact thousands do (either English or British).Easier?
SpeckledJim said:
Whilst we're getting fussy, you'll have to delete all the people named English who just gave their company the same name...
FFS. If it were really so bad for business they'd just call it something else surely? Plenty of people have businesses that don't include their name. And even if half of all businesses are named after their founder (which is a ludicrously unlikely proportion), guess what, that still leaves thousands of businesses that use English or British in their name.
This is the most absurd Internet argument I've ever seen!
Ari said:
FFS. If it were really so bad for business they'd just call it something else surely? Plenty of people have businesses that don't include their name.
And even if half of all businesses are named after their founder (which is a ludicrously unlikely proportion), guess what, that still leaves thousands of businesses that use English or British in their name.
This is the most absurd Internet argument I've ever seen!
Its you that is making it silly by trying to use statistics and then twisting the numbers and moving the goalposts!And even if half of all businesses are named after their founder (which is a ludicrously unlikely proportion), guess what, that still leaves thousands of businesses that use English or British in their name.
This is the most absurd Internet argument I've ever seen!
My point was only that that are not many , if any, examples of well known Companies that advertise being English or use the word English in the company name, which is very unusual.
I am sure there are some..but none we have ever heard of!
Right! That's quite enough of that, thank you very much!
You've all missed something even more petty to bicker about:
This place, really, I dont know....
You've all missed something even more petty to bicker about:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Bakewell tart etc......
It's pudding man! The true, pure, incorruptible regional dish is Bakewell PUDDING! This place, really, I dont know....
Europa1 said:
Blimey. Emily Thornberry would go into meltdown: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/e...
Haverhill, say no more.Now way on this planet is he 51/52 based on that photo.
Shuvi McTupya said:
Ari said:
FFS. If it were really so bad for business they'd just call it something else surely? Plenty of people have businesses that don't include their name.
And even if half of all businesses are named after their founder (which is a ludicrously unlikely proportion), guess what, that still leaves thousands of businesses that use English or British in their name.
This is the most absurd Internet argument I've ever seen!
Its you that is making it silly by trying to use statistics and then twisting the numbers and moving the goalposts!And even if half of all businesses are named after their founder (which is a ludicrously unlikely proportion), guess what, that still leaves thousands of businesses that use English or British in their name.
This is the most absurd Internet argument I've ever seen!
My point was only that that are not many , if any, examples of well known Companies that advertise being English or use the word English in the company name, which is very unusual.
I am sure there are some..but none we have ever heard of!
But this 'winning' this argument is clearly really very important to you so that's fine, you win, no companies anywhere are using it, it's all just my fevered imagination (and that of Companies House, obviously).
Ari said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
Ari said:
FFS. If it were really so bad for business they'd just call it something else surely? Plenty of people have businesses that don't include their name.
And even if half of all businesses are named after their founder (which is a ludicrously unlikely proportion), guess what, that still leaves thousands of businesses that use English or British in their name.
This is the most absurd Internet argument I've ever seen!
Its you that is making it silly by trying to use statistics and then twisting the numbers and moving the goalposts!And even if half of all businesses are named after their founder (which is a ludicrously unlikely proportion), guess what, that still leaves thousands of businesses that use English or British in their name.
This is the most absurd Internet argument I've ever seen!
My point was only that that are not many , if any, examples of well known Companies that advertise being English or use the word English in the company name, which is very unusual.
I am sure there are some..but none we have ever heard of!
But this 'winning' this argument is clearly really very important to you so that's fine, you win, no companies anywhere are using it, it's all just my fevered imagination (and that of Companies House, obviously).
So that's why there aren't that many as its intended to stop there being an implication that the company has a connection to government or something else official
In fact there's an awful lot of words and phrases that have particular requirements for company names:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/incorpo...
Europa1 said:
Blimey. Emily Thornberry would go into meltdown: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/e...
The Kirby Estate, Bermondsey, is 7 or 800 metres from my house in Rotherhithe, and my elder German grandson was over during the Euros in 2016, and expressed his surprise at all the England flags draped around it, “Why do they all do that Opa?”I said that I guessed they wanted to show their support for England, didn’t they do so in Germany?
He said, “We know who we support, there’s only one country, we don’t need a dozen flags on every house, the Turks and Croatians put their flags out, but that’s okay, we expect that, and respect it.”
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