A bit council (Vol 3)
Discussion
I've got a pair of 'proper' Hunters had them for years only just starting to go. Also got a pair of workman like Dunlops that I use in the garden they must be 30+ years old. Wife* had a few pairs of later Hunters they were rubbish and took them back now has Ariat's which are much better, also has a pair of Dubarry's that I bought here years ago when looked after they last for years.
Hunter's are just a fashion brand made in China now, sad end to a good brand.
Hunter's are just a fashion brand made in China now, sad end to a good brand.
- She's not a fashion victim she's a horse rider (victim, smashed her leg up so probably no more riding).
V8mate said:
kowalski655 said:
Wellies are often seen on council kids,even in summer, as they are the only footwear they have available
I think you mean poor kids, not council kids.kowalski655 said:
V8mate said:
kowalski655 said:
Wellies are often seen on council kids,even in summer, as they are the only footwear they have available
I think you mean poor kids, not council kids.It's not that they can't afford them either, they just don't like spending "unnecessary" money on their kids, they are dressed appallingly too, if it's free, they will have it. Hence why my daughter, who spends a fortune in clothes for my grandson (she can afford it and enjoys it) won't offer them to her uncle for his kids when they are too small, as they just won't appreciate them and she doesn't see why she should clothe his kids when they can afford to but just don't want to.
HTP99 said:
Or you can do what my BIL and SIL do, ask for free shoes/trainers on FB for their kids, I'm not kidding.
It's not that they can't afford them either, they just don't like spending "unnecessary" money on their kids, they are dressed appallingly too, if it's free, they will have it. Hence why my daughter, who spends a fortune in clothes for my grandson (she can afford it and enjoys it) won't offer them to her uncle for his kids when they are too small, as they just won't appreciate them and she doesn't see why she should clothe his kids when they can afford to but just don't want to.
Sounds like my wife’s cousin and his Ukrainian wife - their child is being brought up impoverished for the same rationale It's not that they can't afford them either, they just don't like spending "unnecessary" money on their kids, they are dressed appallingly too, if it's free, they will have it. Hence why my daughter, who spends a fortune in clothes for my grandson (she can afford it and enjoys it) won't offer them to her uncle for his kids when they are too small, as they just won't appreciate them and she doesn't see why she should clothe his kids when they can afford to but just don't want to.
alorotom said:
HTP99 said:
Or you can do what my BIL and SIL do, ask for free shoes/trainers on FB for their kids, I'm not kidding.
It's not that they can't afford them either, they just don't like spending "unnecessary" money on their kids, they are dressed appallingly too, if it's free, they will have it. Hence why my daughter, who spends a fortune in clothes for my grandson (she can afford it and enjoys it) won't offer them to her uncle for his kids when they are too small, as they just won't appreciate them and she doesn't see why she should clothe his kids when they can afford to but just don't want to.
Sounds like my wife’s cousin and his Ukrainian wife - their child is being brought up impoverished for the same rationale It's not that they can't afford them either, they just don't like spending "unnecessary" money on their kids, they are dressed appallingly too, if it's free, they will have it. Hence why my daughter, who spends a fortune in clothes for my grandson (she can afford it and enjoys it) won't offer them to her uncle for his kids when they are too small, as they just won't appreciate them and she doesn't see why she should clothe his kids when they can afford to but just don't want to.
Same with haircuts; why pay someone a tenner to do it when you can do it yourself; wonky, too high fringe, that's OK, it'll grow out!
The kids are destined for a life of being bullied, especially as they go to a private school (funded as the mother teaches there).
alorotom said:
SpeckledJim said:
There are limits, of course, but growing-up in a household committed to thrift is a good thing, on the whole.
IMHO.
Why?? IMHO.
Or they can decide mum and dad were right, and put themselves in a position to retire in their 40's without ever needing to earn a lot of money in order to do it.
Showing the kids how to spend money is not useful. Showing them how to save money is enormously useful. It equips the kids with a greater tool kit for life.
As I say, in order to try to head-off the typical PH reductio ad absurdum rejoinder, I'm talking within sensible limits, and purely IMHO.
Showing kids how to save and budget is undeniably good and important.
Showing them how to spend is equally good and important IMO. Unless they're living on a kibbutz or a Taoist small-holding for all their lives they'll need to know how to do both.
Rightly or wrongly to have a life rather than just exist it involves spending money. Perhaps not for everyone as they get to adulthood, but the vast majority of people have hobbies and interests = spending disposable income. Certainly in most parts of the world it's an intrinsic part of socialising in formative years - school trips, sports stuff, general hobbies, stuff like videos games and films which a lot of children indulge in with their friends; helps with fitting in too alongside their own unique personal development.
Showing them how to spend is equally good and important IMO. Unless they're living on a kibbutz or a Taoist small-holding for all their lives they'll need to know how to do both.
Rightly or wrongly to have a life rather than just exist it involves spending money. Perhaps not for everyone as they get to adulthood, but the vast majority of people have hobbies and interests = spending disposable income. Certainly in most parts of the world it's an intrinsic part of socialising in formative years - school trips, sports stuff, general hobbies, stuff like videos games and films which a lot of children indulge in with their friends; helps with fitting in too alongside their own unique personal development.
SpeckledJim said:
There are limits, of course, but growing-up in a household committed to thrift is a good thing, on the whole.
IMHO.
Works both ways.. I've see kids of thrifty parents grow up to be high spenders / borrowers / credit card debters. Having been denied spending in their youths, once they get access to the easy credit they go nuts for it having been 'denied' it in their up bringing.IMHO.
Everything in moderation etc...
untakenname said:
Often see females wearing Wellies at festivals when it's not even raining and the ground is bone dry, that imo is council.
Countryside pursuits such as horse racing and shooting have become very popular over the past decade with the lower class, there was always the rural traveller element but nowadays you see people who a generation ago would go to the dogs turning up at the horses instead all dressed up in the morning then in a state and usually fighting by the evening.
How about yelling and swearing at people in public then driving like a tt, is that council too ?Countryside pursuits such as horse racing and shooting have become very popular over the past decade with the lower class, there was always the rural traveller element but nowadays you see people who a generation ago would go to the dogs turning up at the horses instead all dressed up in the morning then in a state and usually fighting by the evening.
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