A bit council (Vol 3)

A bit council (Vol 3)

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kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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alorotom said:
I wonder this too. My wife’s cousin died in Goa recently (a trip for his 21st birthday) and the family brought his body back to cremate. The cost of flying it back was £15500. I suggested could they not cremate him in Goa with immediate nearest and dearest and fly the remains back as hand luggage and then have a scattering ceremony in the uk for wider family and friends - honestly you’d think I’d just teabagged their beloved family cat
How the hell do the airline justify£15k? The body is coming back in the hold,not first class FFS!

Dog Star

16,145 posts

169 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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kowalski655 said:
How the hell do the airline justify£15k? The body is coming back in the hold,not first class FFS!
Monarch - the now defunct airline - bring a cat back with me from Malaga £505. Fare for me (one way) was £38. Eh?


The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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Dog Star said:
kowalski655 said:
How the hell do the airline justify£15k? The body is coming back in the hold,not first class FFS!
Monarch - the now defunct airline - bring a cat back with me from Malaga £505. Fare for me (one way) was £38. Eh?
Why are you flying around with cats?

Don1

15,951 posts

209 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
Why are you flying around with cats?
Better accuracy than a catapult.

ApOrbital

9,966 posts

119 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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It's the only pussy he is getting smile

CrunkleFloop

773 posts

246 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
Dog Star said:
Monarch - the now defunct airline - bring a cat back with me from Malaga £505. Fare for me (one way) was £38. Eh?
Why are you flying around with cats?
These days even Spectre are affected by budget cuts.

alorotom

11,946 posts

188 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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kowalski655 said:
alorotom said:
I wonder this too. My wife’s cousin died in Goa recently (a trip for his 21st birthday) and the family brought his body back to cremate. The cost of flying it back was £15500. I suggested could they not cremate him in Goa with immediate nearest and dearest and fly the remains back as hand luggage and then have a scattering ceremony in the uk for wider family and friends - honestly you’d think I’d just teabagged their beloved family cat
How the hell do the airline justify£15k? The body is coming back in the hold,not first class FFS!
paperwork, licenses, chilled storage at either end post-drop off, pre-collection, etc... was the explanation I believe - agreed though that its just crazy!

captain_cynic

12,063 posts

96 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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Dog Star said:
kowalski655 said:
How the hell do the airline justify£15k? The body is coming back in the hold,not first class FFS!
Monarch - the now defunct airline - bring a cat back with me from Malaga £505. Fare for me (one way) was £38. Eh?
I suspect the £38 fare was the reason they went out of business.

Going to happen a lot more with belts tightening around Europe, if not the world. Flybe had to be bought out, Norweigian is asking for a cash injection (BA want's to buy them anyway), Ryanair is using its cash reserves to squeeze out competitors and quite unashamed about admitting it.

With animals, I think the have to tranquillise them if they put them in the hold (it has been years since I've transported an animal though) as well as liability insurance.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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alorotom said:
kowalski655 said:
alorotom said:
I wonder this too. My wife’s cousin died in Goa recently (a trip for his 21st birthday) and the family brought his body back to cremate. The cost of flying it back was £15500. I suggested could they not cremate him in Goa with immediate nearest and dearest and fly the remains back as hand luggage and then have a scattering ceremony in the uk for wider family and friends - honestly you’d think I’d just teabagged their beloved family cat
How the hell do the airline justify£15k? The body is coming back in the hold,not first class FFS!
paperwork, licenses, chilled storage at either end post-drop off, pre-collection, etc... was the explanation I believe - agreed though that its just crazy!
And the moral of this story is - what?

May I venture to suggest:-

1. Don't die abroad.
2. If you really must die abroad, then be cremated abroad, then you can bring the ashes back in a Tesco bag.

Far too much sentimentality about dead bodies, especially by council types.

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,029 posts

101 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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captain_cynic said:
Dog Star said:
kowalski655 said:
How the hell do the airline justify£15k? The body is coming back in the hold,not first class FFS!
Monarch - the now defunct airline - bring a cat back with me from Malaga £505. Fare for me (one way) was £38. Eh?
I suspect the £38 fare was the reason they went out of business.

Going to happen a lot more with belts tightening around Europe, if not the world. Flybe had to be bought out, Norweigian is asking for a cash injection (BA want's to buy them anyway), Ryanair is using its cash reserves to squeeze out competitors and quite unashamed about admitting it.

With animals, I think the have to tranquillise them if they put them in the hold (it has been years since I've transported an animal though) as well as liability insurance.
Similar for us a few years ago, £900ish to fly 2 cats back from Greece.

It may or may not be true, but we were advised to request the pilots put the heating on in the hold, as it apparently isn't routinely done. Any pilots on the forums may be able to confirm this detail.

Richard-390a0

2,257 posts

92 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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CrunkleFloop said:
The Mad Monk said:
Dog Star said:
Monarch - the now defunct airline - bring a cat back with me from Malaga £505. Fare for me (one way) was £38. Eh?
Why are you flying around with cats?
These days even Spectre are affected by budget cuts.
claproflroflrofl

Dog Star

16,145 posts

169 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
Far too much sentimentality about dead bodies, especially by council types.
As ever - it's always those that can afford it least that seem to spend money on stuff like this.

I tend to agree re. the dead. Human breeding is out of control, we are an infestation using up more and more resources. To waste them even more on moving a dead body halfway round the planet is ludicrous.

Dog Star

16,145 posts

169 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
Why are you flying around with cats?
I wasn't - I was wanting to bring back a cat from a friend who looks after street cats in Malaga (I realise that this is somewhat at odds with my statement above on bringing dead bodies back) but it works out cheaper to have them sent as part of a batch in a van.

I work in Gibraltar and was planning on just returning via Malaga with said cat so checked it out. Also a lot of work colleagues have flown them, but it's extortionate. There's not too much to it, present animal in approved container at checkin along with paperwork and off it goes.

wolfracesonic

7,020 posts

128 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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Is it cheaper to bring the cats back alive, then kill them when you get here?confused

bobtail4x4

3,717 posts

110 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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could you not just incinerate the cat and bring it back in an urn?

plenty of free cats in shelters here.

I have never understood the idea of "rescuing" animals by bringing them back here, when our shelters are overflowing.

The RSPCA put down thousands a year.

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,029 posts

101 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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bobtail4x4 said:
could you not just incinerate the cat and bring it back in an urn?

plenty of free cats in shelters here.

I have never understood the idea of "rescuing" animals by bringing them back here, when our shelters are overflowing.

The RSPCA put down thousands a year.
Any rescue is in need though, and unfortunately no one can rescue them all. Our two came back with us from our Honeymoon in Greece. Sarah had fallen in love with one of them, 6 years a stray, with one eye. She deserved some happiness, and that is now what she has. At least a rescue in a centre has food and warmth, which is more than our two could take for granted.

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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kowalski655 said:
alorotom said:
I wonder this too. My wife’s cousin died in Goa recently (a trip for his 21st birthday) and the family brought his body back to cremate. The cost of flying it back was £15500. I suggested could they not cremate him in Goa with immediate nearest and dearest and fly the remains back as hand luggage and then have a scattering ceremony in the uk for wider family and friends - honestly you’d think I’d just teabagged their beloved family cat
How the hell do the airline justify£15k? The body is coming back in the hold,not first class FFS!
Shedloads of paperwork and procedures and time critical specialist handling and man hours involved in shipping the dead around. It's been shown on the various airport/airline programmes from time to time.

SlimRick

2,258 posts

166 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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Dog Star said:
kowalski655 said:
How the hell do the airline justify£15k? The body is coming back in the hold,not first class FFS!
Monarch - the now defunct airline - bring a cat back with me from Malaga £505. Fare for me (one way) was £38. Eh?
I flew a horse from the UK to the USA a few years ago when we moved there. £5.5k door to door. Should've just taken the cat.

HTP99

22,582 posts

141 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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bobtail4x4 said:
could you not just incinerate the cat and bring it back in an urn?

plenty of free cats in shelters here.

I have never understood the idea of "rescuing" animals by bringing them back here, when our shelters are overflowing.

The RSPCA put down thousands a year.
My retired mum very nearly went down the route of re-homing a foreign dog (she didn't want to due to how many home grown ones there are) as she was just so exasperated with the demands of the RSPCA to re-home a dog, in the end she managed to get a dog from a local, smaller shelter.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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HTP99 said:
My retired mum very nearly went down the route of re-homing a foreign dog (she didn't want to due to how many home grown ones there are) as she was just so exasperated with the demands of the RSPCA to re-home a dog, in the end she managed to get a dog from a local, smaller shelter.
Neighbours of ours rehomed a Romanian dog as the RSPCA and a local animal shelter had such strict conditions. The lady of the house works part time and that wasn't acceptable, even though the company she works for allows people to take their dogs to work with them.
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