Things you'd expect to be cheaper
Discussion
Steamer said:
bazza white said:
Toilet roll. I can buy a nice brilliant white ream of paper for £2. A pack of second grade fluffy paper £6
a word of warning... Don't try and skim by buy the cheap stuff in Aldi.You just end up spending more on hand wash and biological washing machine capsules
shakotan said:
Uncle John said:
Mcdonalds.
Now £20+ to feed 4.
Should be cheaper.
You must be joking.Now £20+ to feed 4.
Should be cheaper.
You'd struggle to eat anywhere decent for under £20 for 4 people.
Wetherspoon's maybe? Greggs? Even the likes of Hungry Horse and Beefeater would be more than £20 for a meal and a drink.
Sheepshanks said:
Taking home £1K/mth in 1986 was good going. Average gross salary then was £9500/yr.
I went for an interview with Burroughs Machines a little earlier in the 80's - I can't remember the fine details but I was reasonably paid and they were offering less than I was currently earning.
I worked for Burroughs for nearly 20 years. Started at the Purley Way mainframe refurb centre in 1977, relocated to Milton Keynes in 1981 (banking terminal commissioning), then a field role from 1987.I went for an interview with Burroughs Machines a little earlier in the 80's - I can't remember the fine details but I was reasonably paid and they were offering less than I was currently earning.
I guess I'm forgetting that being a computer hardware guy back in the '80s was a decent, skilled, job. By the time I got out of the industry in 2010, we were mostly glorified box swappers, gradually being replaced by "technical couriers" on minimum wage.
a said:
Wedding cakes.
There are some wedding costs that I understand... For example I know that a decent photographer charging £1,000+ is actually putting in a week's worth of work plus wear-and-tear on expensive equipment, insurance, etc.
But a cake is a cake. Even a very fancy cake goes off quite quickly so they must decorate it quickly after baking. I don't believe that it ever takes them a week to decorate a single cake. At best an intricate cake would be a full day of work. They might be very skilled, but there are loads of them so it's hardly a unique skill. How can they justify charging £1,000 for a cake? It's madness!
In common with other posters, my wife is a self-employed cake decorator. There are some wedding costs that I understand... For example I know that a decent photographer charging £1,000+ is actually putting in a week's worth of work plus wear-and-tear on expensive equipment, insurance, etc.
But a cake is a cake. Even a very fancy cake goes off quite quickly so they must decorate it quickly after baking. I don't believe that it ever takes them a week to decorate a single cake. At best an intricate cake would be a full day of work. They might be very skilled, but there are loads of them so it's hardly a unique skill. How can they justify charging £1,000 for a cake? It's madness!
She's just putting the finishing touches to a £1,150 order right now. So far, she's clocked up 94 hours work on it. It's an intricate design with lots of handmade sugar flowers, gold leaf and spray paint work.
By the time she's finished, she'll have made about £8.50 an hour profit on it.
Most cake decorators don't have a wedding tax. My wife charges the same prices regardless of occasion and I know that a lot of her contacts in the industry are the same. It's just that most wedding cake orders take far, far more effort than you could imagine possible.
To put things into perspective, her price for a plain 8" diameter 4.5" high filled sponge cake covered with chocolate ganache and fondant icing is £50. That's before any additional decorating and only covers the cost of the ingredients and her time at a nominal £10/hour.
Rostfritt said:
I currently live in New Zealand, so I could put pretty much everything on this list. Here the surprising things are lamb, beef and dairy products, which are produced in immense quantities but are actually cheaper when they end up abroad. Also craft beer, which seems to be about 4x more than you might expect in a supermarket and peppers, which I can't even consider paying about 10 times more than I would in the UK.
Nuts isn't it. I saw 500g butter for over $8 (>4 quid) in the supermarket the other day. It's because we have to pay "international market prices" apparently, but nobody's adequately explained why it's still substantially cheaper to buy the same stuff on the other side of the world. Sa Calobra said:
toasty said:
Quite simply, the pubs don't make a profit on beer. They've got to make a living.
I'd need to see figures to back that claim up. mike74 said:
Yeah I was going to say laptops... they don't seem any cheaper now, for the equivalent spec, than when I bought my first one about 14 years ago.
Bit longer ago but I remember getting a Dell laptop in late 90's and it was 2 grand. I might have this wrong but I'm sure the little Sony's our directors had were 4 grand.Sa Calobra said:
shakotan said:
Uncle John said:
Mcdonalds.
Now £20+ to feed 4.
Should be cheaper.
You must be joking.Now £20+ to feed 4.
Should be cheaper.
You'd struggle to eat anywhere decent for under £20 for 4 people.
Wetherspoon's maybe? Greggs? Even the likes of Hungry Horse and Beefeater would be more than £20 for a meal and a drink.
£35 for 5 of us, only soft drinks, only main courses, 3 of which were kids meals. no starters or puddings.
bloody rip off.
uncinqsix said:
Rostfritt said:
I currently live in New Zealand, so I could put pretty much everything on this list. Here the surprising things are lamb, beef and dairy products, which are produced in immense quantities but are actually cheaper when they end up abroad. Also craft beer, which seems to be about 4x more than you might expect in a supermarket and peppers, which I can't even consider paying about 10 times more than I would in the UK.
Nuts isn't it. I saw 500g butter for over $8 (>4 quid) in the supermarket the other day. It's because we have to pay "international market prices" apparently, but nobody's adequately explained why it's still substantially cheaper to buy the same stuff on the other side of the world. legless said:
a said:
Wedding cakes.
There are some wedding costs that I understand... For example I know that a decent photographer charging £1,000+ is actually putting in a week's worth of work plus wear-and-tear on expensive equipment, insurance, etc.
But a cake is a cake. Even a very fancy cake goes off quite quickly so they must decorate it quickly after baking. I don't believe that it ever takes them a week to decorate a single cake. At best an intricate cake would be a full day of work. They might be very skilled, but there are loads of them so it's hardly a unique skill. How can they justify charging £1,000 for a cake? It's madness!
In common with other posters, my wife is a self-employed cake decorator. There are some wedding costs that I understand... For example I know that a decent photographer charging £1,000+ is actually putting in a week's worth of work plus wear-and-tear on expensive equipment, insurance, etc.
But a cake is a cake. Even a very fancy cake goes off quite quickly so they must decorate it quickly after baking. I don't believe that it ever takes them a week to decorate a single cake. At best an intricate cake would be a full day of work. They might be very skilled, but there are loads of them so it's hardly a unique skill. How can they justify charging £1,000 for a cake? It's madness!
She's just putting the finishing touches to a £1,150 order right now. So far, she's clocked up 94 hours work on it. It's an intricate design with lots of handmade sugar flowers, gold leaf and spray paint work.
By the time she's finished, she'll have made about £8.50 an hour profit on it.
Most cake decorators don't have a wedding tax. My wife charges the same prices regardless of occasion and I know that a lot of her contacts in the industry are the same. It's just that most wedding cake orders take far, far more effort than you could imagine possible.
To put things into perspective, her price for a plain 8" diameter 4.5" high filled sponge cake covered with chocolate ganache and fondant icing is £50. That's before any additional decorating and only covers the cost of the ingredients and her time at a nominal £10/hour.
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