Haunted by a child? Thoughts?
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WCZ said:
just to add: my experience of blue is that I've enjoyed the colour throughout my life, blue skies and nice blue water on holidays.
there are some technical articles about blue and other colours on the web if you'd like to find out more detail about the colour spectrum and what colour actually is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-C9hr0vnWQthere are some technical articles about blue and other colours on the web if you'd like to find out more detail about the colour spectrum and what colour actually is.
Rawwr said:
Efbe said:
but as I already showed, there is no possible way anyone on here could satisfy you in believing there is anything paranormal.
Stories won't work, pictures won't work, videos wont work.
So what is the point of challenging people on this thread, what would work for you for evidence?
You guys are being the opposite of scientific, starting off by trying to disprove everything you can is retard-science. trying to work out what could be proven and how is where you need to start.
Someone's already said that and it's a nonsense. Post some genuine photos and videos and we'll see. It would be genuinely amazing to see. If people keep on posting clips from TV shows and movies, it's like shooting fish in a barrel... with a cannon.Stories won't work, pictures won't work, videos wont work.
So what is the point of challenging people on this thread, what would work for you for evidence?
You guys are being the opposite of scientific, starting off by trying to disprove everything you can is retard-science. trying to work out what could be proven and how is where you need to start.
Every picture of everything in recent years could be fake. Every video could be.
Again, you have missed the point. what is the evidence that could be provided that would change your mind?
Efbe said:
that is impossible, and you should know it too. If you don't then there is no point in discussion with you.
Every picture of everything in recent years could be fake. Every video could be.
Again, you have missed the point. what is the evidence that could be provided that would change your mind?
I think that’s been answered in that there’s nothing beyond scientific proof!Every picture of everything in recent years could be fake. Every video could be.
Again, you have missed the point. what is the evidence that could be provided that would change your mind?
There’s no point in changing people’s minds, it’s more a case of getting a meeting of minds that there is actually stuff that we don’t understand yet, no one does.
V6Pushfit said:
I think that’s been answered in that there’s nothing beyond scientific proof!
There’s no point in changing people’s minds, it’s more a case of getting a meeting of minds that there is actually stuff that we don’t understand yet, no one does.
ok then, so what is the point of challenging pictures/videos etc, if the only actual way to show anything is through work published in a scientific paper, reviewed etc?There’s no point in changing people’s minds, it’s more a case of getting a meeting of minds that there is actually stuff that we don’t understand yet, no one does.
Or what is the point in arguing on here either way?
I attempted to elicit a scientific reaction from recent theories, tests, papers etc. All of a sudden most of the regular naysayers went silent until there was another story/ picture/ video to rubbish. The few that did respond didn't engage with the material, preferring to skirt around the theories.
Efbe said:
ok then, so what is the point of challenging pictures/videos etc, if the only actual way to show anything is through work published in a scientific paper, reviewed etc?
Or what is the point in arguing on here either way?
This is a discussion forum. Arguing is fun. Why does there have to be a point?Or what is the point in arguing on here either way?
Efbe said:
I attempted to elicit a scientific reaction from recent theories, tests, papers etc. All of a sudden most of the regular naysayers went silent until there was another story/ picture/ video to rubbish. The few that did respond didn't engage with the material, preferring to skirt around the theories.
That's because your links were tenuous, the science far from proven, the theories only mildly interesting, and the whole thing is entirely unrelated to the subject at home. Quite apart from that, your logical leap was somewhat staggering; you went from 'there are quantum effects in the brain' (well, duh) to 'therefore ghosts'. There wasn't really a lot to discuss.Efbe said:
Every picture of everything in recent years could be fake. Every video could be.
Again, you have missed the point. what is the evidence that could be provided that would change your mind?
I would have thought the same ghost captured by many people from various different angles, then posted on Twitter independently and appearing on the news soon after the event, that should do it. Again, you have missed the point. what is the evidence that could be provided that would change your mind?
After all, there's no reason I can think of that ghosts should appear mainly in isolated places to people on their own. Or be mainly nocturnal. Or appear fleetingly. Many people must have died over the years in Leicester Square, or Oxford Street. Or the local NHS hospital. A ghost appearing there on a Tuesday afternoon for half an hour would be good. Might get picked up on CCTV too.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I would have thought the same ghost captured by many people from various different angles, then posted on Twitter independently and appearing on the news soon after the event, that should do it.
After all, there's no reason I can think of that ghosts should appear mainly in isolated places to people on their own. Or be mainly nocturnal. Or appear fleetingly. Many people must have died over the years in Leicester Square, or Oxford Street. Or the local NHS hospital. A ghost appearing there on a Tuesday afternoon for half an hour would be good. Might get picked up on CCTV too.
After all, there's no reason I can think of that ghosts should appear mainly in isolated places to people on their own. Or be mainly nocturnal. Or appear fleetingly. Many people must have died over the years in Leicester Square, or Oxford Street. Or the local NHS hospital. A ghost appearing there on a Tuesday afternoon for half an hour would be good. Might get picked up on CCTV too.
deckster said:
Efbe said:
ok then, so what is the point of challenging pictures/videos etc, if the only actual way to show anything is through work published in a scientific paper, reviewed etc?
Or what is the point in arguing on here either way?
This is a discussion forum. Arguing is fun. Why does there have to be a point?Or what is the point in arguing on here either way?
Efbe said:
I attempted to elicit a scientific reaction from recent theories, tests, papers etc. All of a sudden most of the regular naysayers went silent until there was another story/ picture/ video to rubbish. The few that did respond didn't engage with the material, preferring to skirt around the theories.
That's because your links were tenuous, the science far from proven, the theories only mildly interesting, and the whole thing is entirely unrelated to the subject at home. Quite apart from that, your logical leap was somewhat staggering; you went from 'there are quantum effects in the brain' (well, duh) to 'therefore ghosts'. There wasn't really a lot to discuss.I also made no leap to ghosts whatsoever. That was what you hoped to interpret, but it was not there.
It was very relevant in that I was talking about what could cause someone to hear/see/feel something that would be real, but possibly not the "ghost" you are expecting. The subject unsurprisingly barely got off the ground.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Efbe said:
Every picture of everything in recent years could be fake. Every video could be.
Again, you have missed the point. what is the evidence that could be provided that would change your mind?
I would have thought the same ghost captured by many people from various different angles, then posted on Twitter independently and appearing on the news soon after the event, that should do it. Again, you have missed the point. what is the evidence that could be provided that would change your mind?
Efbe said:
the science is posted is provable, now forming an underlying basis for many other theories. Quantum biology is not a new thing, quantum on a macro level is not a new thing. My links were of some of the worlds most eminent and respected scientists. And the theory about how the brain/consciousness actually works is mildly interesting to you? Really? Something that could completely revolutionise the fundamental basics of computers, communications for a start, but also our whole understanding of everything.
I also made no leap to ghosts whatsoever. That was what you hoped to interpret, but it was not there.
It was very relevant in that I was talking about what could cause someone to hear/see/feel something that would feel real, but possibly not the "ghost" you are expecting. The subject unsurprisingly barely got off the ground.
EFA...I also made no leap to ghosts whatsoever. That was what you hoped to interpret, but it was not there.
It was very relevant in that I was talking about what could cause someone to hear/see/feel something that would feel real, but possibly not the "ghost" you are expecting. The subject unsurprisingly barely got off the ground.
It was interesting, but hard to see how it's relevant, apart from putting the moment of death back a nanosecond or two.
Efbe said:
that is impossible, and you should know it too. If you don't then there is no point in discussion with you.
Every picture of everything in recent years could be fake. Every video could be.
Again, you have missed the point. what is the evidence that could be provided that would change your mind?
You're not understanding.Every picture of everything in recent years could be fake. Every video could be.
Again, you have missed the point. what is the evidence that could be provided that would change your mind?
For previous videos and photos, I've merely pointed out that they've already been debunked as hoaxes, fakes or clips from movies or TV. I'm not the one doing the debunking. Yes, every photo or video could be and probably is fake but come up with something which hasn't already been shown to be by someone else and we can have a pleasant discussion about the possibilities.
Rawwr said:
Yes, every photo or video could be and probably is fake but come up with something which hasn't already been shown to be by someone else and we can have a pleasant discussion about the possibilities.
I really don't know if this has been debunked but skip to 5:50 on this clip and watch the one about noises in the guys attic. If he is pulling a prank, it is very well done and 'scary' even though no ghost is seen.https://youtu.be/9BuLhF2x4Xs
Bill said:
EFA...
It was interesting, but hard to see how it's relevant, apart from putting the moment of death back a nanosecond or two.
well that was part of it.It was interesting, but hard to see how it's relevant, apart from putting the moment of death back a nanosecond or two.
for me (irrelevant to this thread) it opens up massive opportunity for computing, providing a whole new leap for quantum computing.
the interaction between different parts of the brain in Quantum Brain Dynamics is something that could have quite different ramifications (Not at all sure if I highlighted this). A good read here: https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-spin-on-the-q...
then on a slight tangent from this we have Einsteins spooky action at a distance, with some better explanations than I can give here: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2131874-a-cla...
What if the spin of a particle in your brain is affecting(well not affecting, but you know what I mean) mine? Or vice versa... I'm thinking of a number, can you guess which one?
Efbe said:
Bill said:
EFA...
It was interesting, but hard to see how it's relevant, apart from putting the moment of death back a nanosecond or two.
well that was part of it.It was interesting, but hard to see how it's relevant, apart from putting the moment of death back a nanosecond or two.
for me (irrelevant to this thread) it opens up massive opportunity for computing, providing a whole new leap for quantum computing.
the interaction between different parts of the brain in Quantum Brain Dynamics is something that could have quite different ramifications (Not at all sure if I highlighted this). A good read here: https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-spin-on-the-q...
then on a slight tangent from this we have Einsteins spooky action at a distance, with some better explanations than I can give here: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2131874-a-cla...
What if the spin of a particle in your brain is affecting(well not affecting, but you know what I mean) mine? Or vice versa... I'm thinking of a number, can you guess which one?
Edited by jmorgan on Saturday 4th November 07:47
jmorgan said:
Efbe said:
Bill said:
EFA...
It was interesting, but hard to see how it's relevant, apart from putting the moment of death back a nanosecond or two.
well that was part of it.It was interesting, but hard to see how it's relevant, apart from putting the moment of death back a nanosecond or two.
for me (irrelevant to this thread) it opens up massive opportunity for computing, providing a whole new leap for quantum computing.
the interaction between different parts of the brain in Quantum Brain Dynamics is something that could have quite different ramifications (Not at all sure if I highlighted this). A good read here: https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-spin-on-the-q...
then on a slight tangent from this we have Einsteins spooky action at a distance, with some better explanations than I can give here: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2131874-a-cla...
What if the spin of a particle in your brain is affecting(well not affecting, but you know what I mean) mine? Or vice versa... I'm thinking of a number, can you guess which one?
Edited by jmorgan on Saturday 4th November 07:47
- orch-or: the unproven part is the full answer of it. It has now been proven that this is happening, quantum mechanics play a part in our brain's functions. In addition to this quantum processes have been proven in a great deal of other biological situations, photosynthesis, bird migration, eyesight. So it really isn't that great a link to think this may extend to brain activity. And finally, because Penrose... I certainly wouldn't argue with the guy!
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