Giving wifi password to neighbours?
Discussion
Zod said:
essayer said:
Guest wifi access won't protect you if he goes looking for CP will it? I'm firmly in the NO camp.
Sorry, but Internet access isn't life-or-death, and temporary options are available, even for free; go to McDonalds or the library, you won't even need to put the heating on.
How many paedophile neighbours do you think you have?Sorry, but Internet access isn't life-or-death, and temporary options are available, even for free; go to McDonalds or the library, you won't even need to put the heating on.
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techiedave said:
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No one denies that some people download child porn. The problem all decent people have with your previous position is that you equated 'probably isn't English by birth' with 'definitely not to be trusted; probably a child molester'.Edited by techiedave on Tuesday 24th October 12:58
"Patriotic" people seem to forget that English people are only natives to one, very small, island in the North Atlantic. To the other 194 countries on Earth, English people are foreigners. If we're all taking a dim view of foreigners, we 65m or so would be well advised to pipe down, since we're staring down the barrel of more than 7bn enemies.
Alternatively, people are basically just people and trying to spot a nonce based on a vague description of their accent is like trying to spot the 2035 F1 World Champion by the colour of the carpet in your 3rd nearest Indian takeaway.
Zod said:
How many paedophile neighbours do you think you have?
They could be disguised as a SCHOOL!In seriousness, I just don't see enough of a necessity vs the potential for hassle. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but getting arrested at work because the neighbour's 12yo decided to DDOS something in the USA would be pretty career limiting in the short term!
ferrariF50lover said:
The Daily Wail is strong in this thread.
Everyone's a paedo (except you, obviously not you, just everyone else), foreigns aren't to be trusted, all we need now is a mention of how Hitler wasn't really a bad guy and we've got a bingo.
Honestly, I'm not usually one to lament the passing years, but I do start to yearn for a past (that I know didn't really exist, just in my rose-tinted memory) where 'society' was a thing. Where your neighbour would ask to borrow a cup of sugar and you'd just give it to him, rather than assuming it was part of a bomb-making scheme because he looked a bit brown. Or where you'd find yourself in a lift with some Jews and you'd just press the damn button because there's literally no reason in the world why you wouldn't unless you're a complete helmet.
Try it, for yourselves, just be nice to people. Smile at strangers in the supermarket. Make an amusing face to a baby on the tube. Offer a cheery thank you to the tired shop girl. Make polite conversation with the elderly woman in the queue (it might be the only chat she has all week).
You'll find that, mostly, people are just people. That black folks won't rape your women as soon as look at them, that Muslim people aren't all out to get you, that young people aren't all happy slapping yobbos and that the elderley really do value a simple gesture. And then you'll start to feel better yourself, because you'll come to realise that the world isn't what the Wail tells you it is. We're not going to hell in a handcart. We're not doomed to a future of txt spk and avocado on toast for every meal. We're, broadly, a nation full of outstandingly good people from a hugely diverse spectrum (lucky us, how tremendous that we aren't forbidden from so being) of human life. Please, for your own sanity, experience some of this for yourself, it will change you for the better.
Or just keep assuming that everyone (literally everyone else on a planet of more than seven billion people) is out to get you by downloading ropey porn on your wifi. Hell, it's a wonderfully free country, you don't have to listen to me.
Agree with the sentiment, but the unfortunate fact it is that nobody ever got sent to jail for loaning a neighbour a cup of sugar. Everyone's a paedo (except you, obviously not you, just everyone else), foreigns aren't to be trusted, all we need now is a mention of how Hitler wasn't really a bad guy and we've got a bingo.
Honestly, I'm not usually one to lament the passing years, but I do start to yearn for a past (that I know didn't really exist, just in my rose-tinted memory) where 'society' was a thing. Where your neighbour would ask to borrow a cup of sugar and you'd just give it to him, rather than assuming it was part of a bomb-making scheme because he looked a bit brown. Or where you'd find yourself in a lift with some Jews and you'd just press the damn button because there's literally no reason in the world why you wouldn't unless you're a complete helmet.
Try it, for yourselves, just be nice to people. Smile at strangers in the supermarket. Make an amusing face to a baby on the tube. Offer a cheery thank you to the tired shop girl. Make polite conversation with the elderly woman in the queue (it might be the only chat she has all week).
You'll find that, mostly, people are just people. That black folks won't rape your women as soon as look at them, that Muslim people aren't all out to get you, that young people aren't all happy slapping yobbos and that the elderley really do value a simple gesture. And then you'll start to feel better yourself, because you'll come to realise that the world isn't what the Wail tells you it is. We're not going to hell in a handcart. We're not doomed to a future of txt spk and avocado on toast for every meal. We're, broadly, a nation full of outstandingly good people from a hugely diverse spectrum (lucky us, how tremendous that we aren't forbidden from so being) of human life. Please, for your own sanity, experience some of this for yourself, it will change you for the better.
Or just keep assuming that everyone (literally everyone else on a planet of more than seven billion people) is out to get you by downloading ropey porn on your wifi. Hell, it's a wonderfully free country, you don't have to listen to me.
I loan my neighbours anything tangible*, we get on great, but I'd feel a bit awkward about them tagging onto my wifi for the reasons stated by other posters.
- in actual fact the last thing I lent (or rather, gave) a neighbour was a bottle of rather nice red wine when the mentalist girl next door came round complaining about having a bad day, needing a drink, couldn't go the the off licence as she had 2 kids in bed. No problem, one nice bottle of Malbec passed across the fence, didn't expect it back. 6 months later she got into playing music loud until 5am whilst my wife was heavily pregnant. My polite request for her to turn it down was met with a 'f
k Off!' and a ramp up in the volume. On contacting her landlord after multiple weekends of this she then falsely accused my of being racist towards her mixed-race kids and threatened to get some badass gangsters round to kick the fk out of me. This isn't in st Street - we live in a gated private road in one of the nicer areas of Berkshire. She ended up pulling similar stunts with other neighbours, one of whom is a copper, after one too many verbals he had her nicked, taken away in handcuffs in front of her kids, and fortunately for us, her landlord then saw fit to give her notice.
StevieBee said:
On a similar vein, I occasionally rename my WiFi. Currently, it's 'Mi5 Surveillance Van'
When I was in student halls I used to set mine to "TV License Police".As for OP's neighbour being a paedo. If your porn stash is safe using a guest account, just add some parental controls (within router software or use OpenDNS) so the neighbour can't trawl the web for inappropriate stuff which could come back to you.
davek_964 said:
Zod said:
How many paedophile neighbours do you think you have?
How many paedophile neighbours do you reckon techiedave's mate thought they had?Where do people "draw a line".
If your neighbour came up to you and said "excuse me mate I need to make a phone call , my phone has died can I borrow your phone?" would you say no because you think they're going to mug you?
If your neighbour came up to you and said "excuse me mate are you driving into town? I couldn't be cheeky and grab a lift?" would you say no because you think they're going to car jack you?
If your neighbour invited you round for a BBQ would you not go because you think they are going to kill you with salmonella?
Get a f
king grip, all of y'all. ferrariF50lover said:
techiedave said:
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No one denies that some people download child porn. The problem all decent people have with your previous position is that you equated 'probably isn't English by birth' with 'definitely not to be trusted; probably a child molester'.Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 24th October 12:58
"Patriotic" people seem to forget that English people are only natives to one, very small, island in the North Atlantic. To the other 194 countries on Earth, English people are foreigners. If we're all taking a dim view of foreigners, we 65m or so would be well advised to pipe down, since we're staring down the barrel of more than 7bn enemies.
Alternatively, people are basically just people and trying to spot a nonce based on a vague description of their accent is like trying to spot the 2035 F1 World Champion by the colour of the carpet in your 3rd nearest Indian takeaway.
Oh and if your going to quote then actually QUOTE
You my friend make massive assumptions
I originally said "I'll be accused of racism but
Please don't do it
Just DO NOT take the risk. He may not be aware of what is ok to search for
I know I will get slagged for saying this but if his language is an issue then maybe his grasp of law is also an issue"
I stand by that Does that mean I assume he is a nonce - no does it mean he could be - YES does it also mean he could go looking for stuff that he shouldn't and could cause issue for the OP - Yes
Oh and you said "The problem all decent people have with your previous position "
YOU don't speak for all decent people you just think you do. The real world can be somewhat removed from the happy clappy way yours seems to be
techiedave said:
Just DO NOT take the risk. He may not be aware of what is ok to search for
I know I will get slagged for saying this but if his language is an issue then maybe his grasp of law is also an issue"
Wow.I know I will get slagged for saying this but if his language is an issue then maybe his grasp of law is also an issue"
I went to Portugal this year for my hols. We stayed in a very nice villa near Lisbon which as well as a very nice pool, had internet access. My grasp of Portugese is pretty much non-existent. I can say please & thankyou & I'm rather embarrassed to say that's it. However, just because I was in a foreign country, with not much idea of what people were saying, I certainly didn't then decide to start looking at child porn and how to make dirty bombs. Just for the record, my grasp of Portugese law is certainly an issue - I'm not the person you should call should you ever be in the s
t in Portugal.xjay1337 said:
davek_964 said:
Zod said:
How many paedophile neighbours do you think you have?
How many paedophile neighbours do you reckon techiedave's mate thought they had?Where do people "draw a line".
If your neighbour came up to you and said "excuse me mate I need to make a phone call , my phone has died can I borrow your phone?" would you say no because you think they're going to mug you?
If your neighbour came up to you and said "excuse me mate are you driving into town? I couldn't be cheeky and grab a lift?" would you say no because you think they're going to car jack you?
If your neighbour invited you round for a BBQ would you not go because you think they are going to kill you with salmonella?
Get a f
king grip, all of y'all. 
davek_964 said:
xjay1337 said:
davek_964 said:
Zod said:
How many paedophile neighbours do you think you have?
How many paedophile neighbours do you reckon techiedave's mate thought they had?Where do people "draw a line".
If your neighbour came up to you and said "excuse me mate I need to make a phone call , my phone has died can I borrow your phone?" would you say no because you think they're going to mug you?
If your neighbour came up to you and said "excuse me mate are you driving into town? I couldn't be cheeky and grab a lift?" would you say no because you think they're going to car jack you?
If your neighbour invited you round for a BBQ would you not go because you think they are going to kill you with salmonella?
Get a f
king grip, all of y'all. xjay1337 said:
davek_964 said:
xjay1337 said:
davek_964 said:
Zod said:
How many paedophile neighbours do you think you have?
How many paedophile neighbours do you reckon techiedave's mate thought they had?Where do people "draw a line".
If your neighbour came up to you and said "excuse me mate I need to make a phone call , my phone has died can I borrow your phone?" would you say no because you think they're going to mug you?
If your neighbour came up to you and said "excuse me mate are you driving into town? I couldn't be cheeky and grab a lift?" would you say no because you think they're going to car jack you?
If your neighbour invited you round for a BBQ would you not go because you think they are going to kill you with salmonella?
Get a f
king grip, all of y'all. davek_964 said:
There is a huge difference between my mate using my WiFi on his phone when sat in the lounge with me drinking a coffee, to a neighbour (or one of their visitors I don't even know) doing it in the privacy of their own home.
Is it likely they would be doing something seriously illegal? Of course not, but I wouldn't take the risk, small though it is. And let's be serious - we're not talking about refusing to give food to a starving family - we're talking about not providing somebody with internet access. It's hardly life or death and - as pointed out - there are places be could go to get WiFi with his phone (or he could just change his data plan while his router isn't working!)
Idiot.Is it likely they would be doing something seriously illegal? Of course not, but I wouldn't take the risk, small though it is. And let's be serious - we're not talking about refusing to give food to a starving family - we're talking about not providing somebody with internet access. It's hardly life or death and - as pointed out - there are places be could go to get WiFi with his phone (or he could just change his data plan while his router isn't working!)
We did this for our neighbour known them for years and are very close with them (BBQs dinner parties).
It was barely a week in the end and they let us know as soon as they were online (we did change the password at that point not for fear of dodgy use but to maintain the bandwidth in case phones laptops etc flipped to use ours.
It was barely a week in the end and they let us know as soon as they were online (we did change the password at that point not for fear of dodgy use but to maintain the bandwidth in case phones laptops etc flipped to use ours.
davek_964 said:
xjay1337 said:
davek_964 said:
xjay1337 said:
davek_964 said:
Zod said:
How many paedophile neighbours do you think you have?
How many paedophile neighbours do you reckon techiedave's mate thought they had?Where do people "draw a line".
If your neighbour came up to you and said "excuse me mate I need to make a phone call , my phone has died can I borrow your phone?" would you say no because you think they're going to mug you?
If your neighbour came up to you and said "excuse me mate are you driving into town? I couldn't be cheeky and grab a lift?" would you say no because you think they're going to car jack you?
If your neighbour invited you round for a BBQ would you not go because you think they are going to kill you with salmonella?
Get a f
king grip, all of y'all. davek_964 said:
There is a huge difference between my mate using my WiFi on his phone when sat in the lounge with me drinking a coffee, to a neighbour (or one of their visitors I don't even know) doing it in the privacy of their own home.
Is it likely they would be doing something seriously illegal? Of course not, but I wouldn't take the risk, small though it is. And let's be serious - we're not talking about refusing to give food to a starving family - we're talking about not providing somebody with internet access. It's hardly life or death and - as pointed out - there are places be could go to get WiFi with his phone (or he could just change his data plan while his router isn't working!)
Idiot.Is it likely they would be doing something seriously illegal? Of course not, but I wouldn't take the risk, small though it is. And let's be serious - we're not talking about refusing to give food to a starving family - we're talking about not providing somebody with internet access. It's hardly life or death and - as pointed out - there are places be could go to get WiFi with his phone (or he could just change his data plan while his router isn't working!)
ferrariF50lover said:
The Daily Wail is strong in this thread.
Everyone's a paedo (except you, obviously not you, just everyone else), foreigns aren't to be trusted, all we need now is a mention of how Hitler wasn't really a bad guy and we've got a bingo.
Honestly, I'm not usually one to lament the passing years, but I do start to yearn for a past (that I know didn't really exist, just in my rose-tinted memory) where 'society' was a thing. Where your neighbour would ask to borrow a cup of sugar and you'd just give it to him, rather than assuming it was part of a bomb-making scheme because he looked a bit brown. Or where you'd find yourself in a lift with some Jews and you'd just press the damn button because there's literally no reason in the world why you wouldn't unless you're a complete helmet.
Try it, for yourselves, just be nice to people. Smile at strangers in the supermarket. Make an amusing face to a baby on the tube. Offer a cheery thank you to the tired shop girl. Make polite conversation with the elderly woman in the queue (it might be the only chat she has all week).
You'll find that, mostly, people are just people. That black folks won't rape your women as soon as look at them, that Muslim people aren't all out to get you, that young people aren't all happy slapping yobbos and that the elderley really do value a simple gesture. And then you'll start to feel better yourself, because you'll come to realise that the world isn't what the Wail tells you it is. We're not going to hell in a handcart. We're not doomed to a future of txt spk and avocado on toast for every meal. We're, broadly, a nation full of outstandingly good people from a hugely diverse spectrum (lucky us, how tremendous that we aren't forbidden from so being) of human life. Please, for your own sanity, experience some of this for yourself, it will change you for the better.
Or just keep assuming that everyone (literally everyone else on a planet of more than seven billion people) is out to get you by downloading ropey porn on your wifi. Hell, it's a wonderfully free country, you don't have to listen to me.
Thank you, one of the best posts ever.Everyone's a paedo (except you, obviously not you, just everyone else), foreigns aren't to be trusted, all we need now is a mention of how Hitler wasn't really a bad guy and we've got a bingo.
Honestly, I'm not usually one to lament the passing years, but I do start to yearn for a past (that I know didn't really exist, just in my rose-tinted memory) where 'society' was a thing. Where your neighbour would ask to borrow a cup of sugar and you'd just give it to him, rather than assuming it was part of a bomb-making scheme because he looked a bit brown. Or where you'd find yourself in a lift with some Jews and you'd just press the damn button because there's literally no reason in the world why you wouldn't unless you're a complete helmet.
Try it, for yourselves, just be nice to people. Smile at strangers in the supermarket. Make an amusing face to a baby on the tube. Offer a cheery thank you to the tired shop girl. Make polite conversation with the elderly woman in the queue (it might be the only chat she has all week).
You'll find that, mostly, people are just people. That black folks won't rape your women as soon as look at them, that Muslim people aren't all out to get you, that young people aren't all happy slapping yobbos and that the elderley really do value a simple gesture. And then you'll start to feel better yourself, because you'll come to realise that the world isn't what the Wail tells you it is. We're not going to hell in a handcart. We're not doomed to a future of txt spk and avocado on toast for every meal. We're, broadly, a nation full of outstandingly good people from a hugely diverse spectrum (lucky us, how tremendous that we aren't forbidden from so being) of human life. Please, for your own sanity, experience some of this for yourself, it will change you for the better.
Or just keep assuming that everyone (literally everyone else on a planet of more than seven billion people) is out to get you by downloading ropey porn on your wifi. Hell, it's a wonderfully free country, you don't have to listen to me.
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