The greatest human ever....
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MYOB said:
I'm sorry but "decent" people don't order the total destructions of cities incurring the deaths of thousands and thousands of civilians.
Do you understand what WW2 actually was?It was a TOTAL war.
It got to the point where the gloves and all bets were off. Do you actually understand what it takes to defend yourself, let alone win, in that scenario?
As I suggested in my post above, the concept of a total war is very hard to grasp for those who haven’t experienced it, especially if your idea of war is shaped by post WW2 conflicts. Even the nastiest post WW2 conflict pales into insignificance against the sheer scale of death and destruction of WW2.
It’s not a nice thing to think about, but what was done and what you refer to, needed to be done.
It's depressing AF how little understanding some people have of a war that changed the world
Edited by TheJimi on Thursday 23 November 10:14
El stovey said:
I’d do what I thought was the greatest good for the greatest number of people and that would be Atom bombing Japan every time. Trump was a great man because he made that tough decision and had a conscience about it.
Sure I’d feel bad about it but they weren’t going to surrender.
Sure I’d feel bad about it but they weren’t going to surrender.
OMG! I haven't been keeping up with the news. When did that happen???
I think it is important that we celebrate our similarities rather than our differences so any one of these girls would be suitable to represent humankind in a face to face meeting with aliens.
https://www.therichest.com/shocking/15-top-models-...
https://www.therichest.com/shocking/15-top-models-...
Or perhaps Super Dave Osborne. It does say something about our societies over the millenea that in a thread with a gender neutral title we're all talking about men.
One thing I would say about Jesus is that his philosophy were rich pickings for the liberals and egalatarians who eventually came along.
Who was the greatest egalitarian? Napoleon probably did a lot for the cause even though he seemed to have few qualms about killing tens of thousands. He was clearly no egalitarian himself.
Top women- Sappho? Ancient poet whose work was celebrated for centuries but somehow vanished. I'm sure it was unrelated to how passionate and bisexual a lot of it was.
Elizabeth 1st?
Greatest early womens rights activist? Extending the vote to an extra 50% of the population is a pretty big deal.
One thing I would say about Jesus is that his philosophy were rich pickings for the liberals and egalatarians who eventually came along.
Who was the greatest egalitarian? Napoleon probably did a lot for the cause even though he seemed to have few qualms about killing tens of thousands. He was clearly no egalitarian himself.
Top women- Sappho? Ancient poet whose work was celebrated for centuries but somehow vanished. I'm sure it was unrelated to how passionate and bisexual a lot of it was.
Elizabeth 1st?
Greatest early womens rights activist? Extending the vote to an extra 50% of the population is a pretty big deal.
RichB said:
ot being at all religious I didn't know that. I must confess I assumed that he did exist, even if he was not the son of god and never fed 5000 people with one fish. Without diverting the thread, although that's happened a lot already, is current wisdom that he is a fictitious mix of the best bits of many people?
Yes, most objective scholars currently seem to think that's the most likely scenario, that Jesus is a combination of 3 separate characters. glazbagun said:
El stovey said:
I’d do what I thought was the greatest good for the greatest number of people and that would be Atom bombing Japan every time. Trump was a great man because he made that tough decision and had a conscience about it.
What happened to him to change him so? 
It was a great bomb, great bomb,
Gargamel said:
glazbagun said:
It does say something about our societies over the millenea that in a thread with a gender neutral title we're all talking about men.
Oy ... out of order. I suggested Scarlett Johanson on page 1 Mmm ... Scarlett
Inquisitor: This is your judgment day, bud. I gotta be cruel. There can't be no favours.. I have to ask you the question. Justify your existence; what contribution have you made?
The Cat: I have given pleasure to the world because I have such a beautiful ass.
Inquisitor: Well, that's true.
The Cat: Can I go now?
Inquisitor: That's your case?
Inquisitor: Some might say that was a pretty shallow argument.
The Cat: Some might say I'm a pretty shallow guy; a shallow guy with a great ass!
Are you guys seriously suggesting that we should send Scarlett to meet the aliens? 
There could only be two possible outcomes:
A. We'd never be able to get rid of them, or
B. They'd immediately cart her off to their home planet and start an intensive breeding programme for their own nefarious ends.
There could only be two possible outcomes:
A. We'd never be able to get rid of them, or
B. They'd immediately cart her off to their home planet and start an intensive breeding programme for their own nefarious ends.
glenrobbo said:
Are you guys seriously suggesting that we should send Scarlett to meet the aliens?
There could only be two possible outcomes:
A. We'd never be able to get rid of them, or
B. They'd immediately cart her off to their home planet and start an intensive breeding programme for their own nefarious ends.
C, if you've seen Under the Skin- they send her back to the streets of Glasgow to capture men by seducing them. There could only be two possible outcomes:
A. We'd never be able to get rid of them, or
B. They'd immediately cart her off to their home planet and start an intensive breeding programme for their own nefarious ends.
Thinking about it slightly differently, is there a Schindler-type figure/great humanitarian who risked a ton and changed the world for the better? This list makes good reading, but I imagine similar has happened many times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individuals_and_grou...
Or John Rabe, a Nazi who helped the Chinese during the Nanking Massacre and received little thanks for it until the Chinese found out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe
glazbagun said:
C, if you've seen Under the Skin- they send her back to the streets of Glasgow to capture men by seducing them.
Thinking about it slightly differently, is there a Schindler-type figure/great humanitarian who risked a ton and changed the world for the better? This list makes good reading, but I imagine similar has happened many times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individuals_and_grou...
Or John Rabe, a Nazi who helped the Chinese during the Nanking Massacre and received little thanks for it until the Chinese found out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe
Under the skin was a bit of a B movie but very watchable Thinking about it slightly differently, is there a Schindler-type figure/great humanitarian who risked a ton and changed the world for the better? This list makes good reading, but I imagine similar has happened many times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individuals_and_grou...
Or John Rabe, a Nazi who helped the Chinese during the Nanking Massacre and received little thanks for it until the Chinese found out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe
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