First to pop off...............2018

First to pop off...............2018

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irocfan

40,551 posts

191 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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creator of Hill Street Blues dies...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43615842

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Nanook said:
Willy Nilly said:
Todays youth would and will step up if and when push comes to shove, just like they have been doing for centurys.
I'd like to believe that, but I'm not sure I do.
Hmmmm?

It's true though. When I joined the army at the age of 16, my dad thought I was "a waster". I was "a shower of st" who "couldn't handle the discipline", and I'd be home within three months. (Junior soldiers back then could break their contracts up to the three month point if they decided the army wasn't really their thing).

Less than three years later I was keeping a cool head taking Iraqi prisoners in trenches, and responding to incoming heavy machine gun fire by sending a contact report and maneuvering my vehicle to try to keep my section safe. I'm not "special", nor particularly "hard". It just takes a bit of training and some faith in your team really, and you know you'll do anything for them because you trust them to do the same for you. I served 25 years in the end.

So while "the youth" that stand in front of you right now might not look much, with the right training and (to crib from Full Metal Jacket) "the proper motivation", you'd be surprised what you can mould that "youth" into...

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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irocfan said:
Bloody hell just 61 too. To think all his life he’s been active and fit then that happens .

If he’s critical now it makes you wonder how much of a recovery he’ll make . Sad

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Nanook said:
I take your point, but the 'odds' are a bit different these days.

If you told todays kids they were going to war, that the enemy was at least as well equipped as they were, and there was a really good solid chance they weren't coming home, at Iwo Jima over 10% of soldiers that saw action came home in a box, I'm not sure the current generation have the sort of mental fortitude that is required.

Hopefully we'll never have to know.

If this was 1939, and I was 33, would I be drafted?

I design warships, so probably not, but did they draft people at 33 back then?
Presuming you were not in a reserved occupation, in 1939 no. By 1941 though, you'd have been required to register, and quite possibly called up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/timelin...

hurstg01

2,918 posts

244 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Ray Wilkins - 61 frowneek

cuprabob

14,677 posts

215 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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hurstg01 said:
Ray Wilkins - 61 frowneek
Just heard he passed away.....RIP Butch

Eric Mc

122,068 posts

266 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Sad news. Only just older than me too.

grumpy52

5,598 posts

167 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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RIP Butch , saw him play for England many times and never disappointed.
No age really and the same generation as me .A sad loss .

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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grumpy52 said:
RIP Butch , saw him play for England many times and never disappointed.
No age really and the same generation as me .A sad loss .
I know he had a battle with the booze but was still shocked to hear his death . Also was a very fit man for many years . Properly sad

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
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Eric bristow

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
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Double top there for the crafty cockney ^^^^^

One of them's deleted.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
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Blimey eek

Laurel Green

30,782 posts

233 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
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He was only treble twenty. frown

Sheets Tabuer

18,989 posts

216 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
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Bloody hell, what's with these 60 years olds dropping dead, booze?

ApOrbital

9,967 posts

119 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
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Awww frown

AstonZagato

12,717 posts

211 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
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"When Alexander of Macedon was 33, he cried salt tears because there were no more worlds to conquer. Eric Bristow is only 27."
Sid Waddell

hurstg01

2,918 posts

244 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
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He’ll have fun with Jim Bowen up there

LadfromManc

94 posts

126 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
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None dart player went first...

Edited by LadfromManc on Thursday 5th April 23:30

Hub

6,440 posts

199 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Bloody hell, what's with these 60 years olds dropping dead, booze?
Lifestyle I guess - if you don't look after yourself heart disease will finish you off around that age. If you make it past your early 60s without a heart attack you're probably good to go on a lot longer!

ajprice

27,539 posts

197 months

Friday 6th April 2018
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Isao Takahata, co founder of Studio Ghibli https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/apr/06/studi...