Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol 5)

[ciege]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

227bhp said:

I did, interestingly it tells me:

"The usage dates from the 1930s; berk is a shortened version of Berkeley Hunt, the hunt based at Berkeley Castle, in Gloucestershire. In Cockney rhyming slang, hunt is a rhyme for , giving the word its original slang meaning."

My mother used to call people berks, I doubt she knew she was calling them s!

Only Berkeley is pronounced like "bark-lee" so isn't rhyming slang because it doesn't rhyme.

Shirely it's the hunt bit which rhymes

[yellowjack]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

227bhp said:

I did, interestingly it tells me:

"The usage dates from the 1930s; berk is a shortened version of Berkeley Hunt, the hunt based at Berkeley Castle, in Gloucestershire. In Cockney rhyming slang, hunt is a rhyme for , giving the word its original slang meaning."

My mother used to call people berks, I doubt she knew she was calling them s!

Only Berkeley is pronounced like "bark-lee" so isn't rhyming slang because it doesn't rhyme.

Only Berkeley isn't the part that's meant to rhyme. Whether you pronounce that bit berk-ley or bark-lay (like the bank), the important part of the origin of the rhyming slang is hunt. But as you'll see with most rhyming slang, the part that's often dropped when the slang is employed in conversation is the actual rhyming part.

So "What a Berkeley Hunt!" becomes "What a Berkeley". Then it gets shortened and absorbed into everyday language, losing the harshness of it's meaning along the way.

I'm off up the apples to comb me barnet and put on a whistle and a nice peckham. Now be a good chap and take your plates off the Tony Blair, while I go and take the pins out of me new Uncle Bert...

[davhill]

yellowjack said:

Only Berkeley isn't the part that's meant to rhyme. Whether you pronounce that bit berk-ley or bark-lay (like the bank), the important part of the origin of the rhyming slang is hunt. But as you'll see with most rhyming slang, the part that's often dropped when the slang is employed in conversation is the actual rhyming part.

So "What a Berkeley Hunt!" becomes "What a Berkeley". Then it gets shortened and absorbed into everyday language, losing the harshness of it's meaning along the way.

I'm off up the apples to comb me barnet and put on a whistle and a nice peckham. Now be a good chap and take your plates off the Tony Blair, while I go and take the pins out of me new Uncle Bert...

Shouldn't that be '.. take the wheelie bins out of me new Uncle Bert'? Stay sharp.

[br d]

People who get all depressed when they "Hit 30".

[glenrobbo]

ciege said:

Shirely it's the hunt bit which rhymes

Are you a hobbit?

[Einion Yrth]

yellowjack said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

227bhp said:

I did, interestingly it tells me:

"The usage dates from the 1930s; berk is a shortened version of Berkeley Hunt, the hunt based at Berkeley Castle, in Gloucestershire. In Cockney rhyming slang, hunt is a rhyme for , giving the word its original slang meaning."

My mother used to call people berks, I doubt she knew she was calling them s!

Only Berkeley is pronounced like "bark-lee" so isn't rhyming slang because it doesn't rhyme.

Only Berkeley isn't the part that's meant to rhyme. Whether you pronounce that bit berk-ley or bark-lay (like the bank), the important part of the origin of the rhyming slang is hunt. But as you'll see with most rhyming slang, the part that's often dropped when the slang is employed in conversation is the actual rhyming part.

So "What a Berkeley Hunt!" becomes "What a Berkeley". Then it gets shortened and absorbed into everyday language, losing the harshness of it's meaning along the way.

I'm off up the apples to comb me barnet and put on a whistle and a nice peckham. Now be a good chap and take your plates off the Tony Blair, while I go and take the pins out of me new Uncle Bert...

Yes, but you would refer to someone as a "berk" not a "bark", so while I don't disbelieve the etymology, it is, it would seem, incomplete.

[talksthetorque]

Einion Yrth said:

Yes, but you would refer to someone as a "berk" not a "bark", so while I don't disbelieve the etymology, it is, it would seem, incomplete.

Cockney rhyming slang is hardly the most accurate of dialects/languages.

Titfer - Should be Titfor, and I'm sure there must be more. However being a Yorkshireman, I feel less than qualified to continue

[DavieW]

People at sports events who see themselves on screen when the camera pans round the audience and then proceed to wave at the screen.

[MorganP104]

DavieW said:

People at sports events who see themselves on screen when the camera pans round the audience and then proceed to wave at the screen.

Yes! This!

If you're going to wave, do it at the bloody camera!!!

[Ruskie]

The state of PH these days. I have read some shocking threads recently where the OP has basically being attacked without justification or reason. Sad times.

[Antony Moxey]

DavieW said:

People at sports events who see themselves on screen when the camera pans round the audience and then proceed to wave at the screen.

Especially when their team is getting hammered. I'd be inclined to mouth 'f*** off' at it and give it a w***er sign rather than cheerily waving at it.

[RizzoTheRat]

MorganP104 said:

Yes! This!

If you're going to wave, do it at the bloody camera!!!

You often see them looking around trying to work out where the camera is, which is usually amusing as people are used to mirrors so tend to struggle with a video image.

[yellowjack]

talksthetorque said:

Einion Yrth said:

Yes, but you would refer to someone as a "berk" not a "bark", so while I don't disbelieve the etymology, it is, it would seem, incomplete.

Cockney rhyming slang is hardly the most accurate of dialects/languages.

Titfer - Should be Titfor, and I'm sure there must be more. However being a Yorkshireman, I feel less than qualified to continue

I shall consult my neighbours. Two of them are full-blown Mockney cabbies - 'leisurewear' with black leather lace-up shoes, Sovvvs, black cabs, the works. Although the delightful lady wot speaks the "Queens English" and lives next door would be a better source of accurate info, as she was born in East London. Her mum was awesome too, bless her. She's in a care home now, with dementia, but she was born and lived in Cheapside well before the Luftwaffe destroyed the bells of St Mary-le-Bow. The weird thing is, knowing people who can genuinely claim to be Cockneys by the traditional definition, that they are less likely to speak and act "all Cocker-ney" than non-Cockneys...

[Bobberoo99]

I've just been to my doctors surgery for an appointment, it was SUPPOSED to be a double appointment due to the fact I had three things to disscus, it was at 9.10, I finally got seen at 9.30 and it was only a single appointment so we rushed through everything, I waited 5 weeks for this appointment!!!!

[nonsequitur]

yellowjack said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

227bhp said:

I did, interestingly it tells me:

"The usage dates from the 1930s; berk is a shortened version of Berkeley Hunt, the hunt based at Berkeley Castle, in Gloucestershire. In Cockney rhyming slang, hunt is a rhyme for , giving the word its original slang meaning."

My mother used to call people berks, I doubt she knew she was calling them s!

Only Berkeley is pronounced like "bark-lee" so isn't rhyming slang because it doesn't rhyme.

Only Berkeley isn't the part that's meant to rhyme. Whether you pronounce that bit berk-ley or bark-lay (like the bank), the important part of the origin of the rhyming slang is hunt. But as you'll see with most rhyming slang, the part that's often dropped when the slang is employed in conversation is the actual rhyming part.

So "What a Berkeley Hunt!" becomes "What a Berkeley". Then it gets shortened and absorbed into everyday language, losing the harshness of it's meaning along the way.

I'm off up the apples to comb me barnet and put on a whistle and a nice peckham. Now be a good chap and take your plates off the Tony Blair, while I go and take the pins out of me new Uncle Bert...

Barclays =Barclay's Bank. We all know the punch line.

[nonsequitur]

ciege said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

227bhp said:

I did, interestingly it tells me:

"The usage dates from the 1930s; berk is a shortened version of Berkeley Hunt, the hunt based at Berkeley Castle, in Gloucestershire. In Cockney rhyming slang, hunt is a rhyme for , giving the word its original slang meaning."

My mother used to call people berks, I doubt she knew she was calling them s!

Only Berkeley is pronounced like "bark-lee" so isn't rhyming slang because it doesn't rhyme.

Shirely it's the hunt bit which rhymes

Agreed. It is the last word which is the rhyming part although frequently the first word is used as a shortcut to make the conversational point.

[nonsequitur]

deeen said:

GipsyHillClimber said:

I'm sure this one is mentioned a few times each year on this thread (or one of its previous incarnations), it always seems to be this time of year i see more and more people on forums i visit referring to an airport only by the airport code. Now i get that for some they must all be well known and it can save some time i'm sure, but on a public forum it just means people need to look it up if they actually care where you're talking about!

A poster on a ski forum i visit referencing their upcoming trip from LHR to YYZ before flying on to SNA a few weeks later. Is it really that difficult to type in Heathrow, Toronto and Orange County? Fair enough if you're on a plane enthusiasts forum but otherwise, why!?

It's only an annoyance to me as i don't know them all and can't just let it lie without looking them up so it really is beyond reason.

They're just showing off... "We're such frequent fliers we know all the codes, yah"

YES IAG REE WIT THA TST ATE MEN (T).

[V8mate]

nonsequitur said:

ciege said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

227bhp said:

I did, interestingly it tells me:

"The usage dates from the 1930s; berk is a shortened version of Berkeley Hunt, the hunt based at Berkeley Castle, in Gloucestershire. In Cockney rhyming slang, hunt is a rhyme for , giving the word its original slang meaning."

My mother used to call people berks, I doubt she knew she was calling them s!

Only Berkeley is pronounced like "bark-lee" so isn't rhyming slang because it doesn't rhyme.

Shirely it's the hunt bit which rhymes

Agreed. It is the last word which is the rhyming part although frequently the first word is used as a shortcut to make the conversational point.

It's not a short cut. It's the bit that makes it a code. Cockney rhyming slang was a way for people to talk about stuff to the exclusion of those who weren't familiar with it. So you provide the clue and drop the rhyming element.

[Europa1]

glenrobbo said:

Motorway overhead matrix signs helpfully informing you that there are problems between J6 & 8

but no inkling as to where the fk those particular junctions are located.
Fair enough if you're a driver who regularly uses that stretch and have memorised where all the motorway junctions are, but not much help if you are an infrequent visitor and haven't managed to commit the whole of the motorway network and junction numbers to memory.
Are you supposed to start fumbling about with a road atlas and magnifying lens to pinpoint where they are referring to??? Aaaaagh!

This also annoys me, as does traffic news on the radio. "Congestion between junction 6 and junction 8", or the classic the other day "traffic on Newmarket Road [Cambridge] is very slow moving eastbound". I don't have a compass in the car, nor a map, and it was an overcast day, so how am i supposed to work out which way is eastbound? Why not say "heading out of town"? Or there are the times, like yesterday morning, where I was being kept brilliantly up to date about problems on the A14, the M11, the M25 and various other roads....but not a sodding word about the jam (or its cause) on the A505 that meant it took me nearly an hour to do about 2 miles.

[nonsequitur]

V8mate said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

OddCat said:

(Honestly, PH is turning into "grumpy old middle aged men" more and more every day)

It's a new PH sub group MAMOPH. (middle aged man on pistonheads).