Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol 5)

Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol 5)

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Usget

5,426 posts

212 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Shakermaker said:
British Airways and their refund policy.

They cocked up at their end, in a manner of speaking, by putting me on an aircraft which was then unable to take off, thus causing a delay.

When I went to claim a refund, they only refunded me £11 of my £40 ticket with the remaining £29 taken as a "reasonable service and administration charge" for the purpose of refunding me.

Three weeks later, they've just sent me the other £29 after a few emails and finally me having to write them an actual letter which went in the post to a different department.

That I am still around £115 down because of the cost of parking and my return flight is probably by-the-by now and I have to just suck that up, but I don't see how charging people money when they have made an error is in any way fair or proper!
Don't let them fob you off by telling you they won't refund your parking.

Keep plugging away at them and you'll get it back eventually. If they keep mucking you about, tell them you'll open a case with the CEDR. https://www.cedr.com/consumer/aviation/.

Are you not also entitled to compensation under EU251, or did they come up with a creative "wrong sort of weather" argument for why the plane was unable to take off?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Usget said:
Chuggers guarding the doors at Co-Op.

"Excuse me, can I just talk to you about.." NO
"Hi there, how's your..." NO
"Morning, I'd just like to take a second of your..." NO

By permitting these people to set up what is basically a picket by the entrance of their shop, Co-Op are making me the fking bad guy for having to ignore them. What they don't seem to gather is that, whilst they're only there once in a blue moon, I'm there most lunchtimes, and I therefore get hounded by the full spectrum of them.

Like most people, I give generously (but not quite as generously as I could or should) to charities I have chosen. I don't give the time of day to charity street hawkers. The only people these aggressive chuggers are going to ensnare will be old folk, without two pennies to rub together but who are nevertheless too polite to ignore the sales pitch.

I only went in for a prawn sarnie and some crisps.
The Co-Op near us are one for the charities. There is always a Big Issue seller by the door and they often have a desk inside for some charity or other. They even had some utility swapping company in there the other day.

Cotty

39,586 posts

285 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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talksthetorque said:
People going slowly everywhere today.
40 in a 60, 22 in a clear 30 with no side roads,
Well they do say its a limit not a target.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

124 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Usget said:
Chuggers guarding the doors at Co-Op.

"Excuse me, can I just talk to you about.." NO
"Hi there, how's your..." NO
"Morning, I'd just like to take a second of your..." NO

By permitting these people to set up what is basically a picket by the entrance of their shop, Co-Op are making me the fking bad guy for having to ignore them. What they don't seem to gather is that, whilst they're only there once in a blue moon, I'm there most lunchtimes, and I therefore get hounded by the full spectrum of them.

Like most people, I give generously (but not quite as generously as I could or should) to charities I have chosen. I don't give the time of day to charity street hawkers. The only people these aggressive chuggers are going to ensnare will be old folk, without two pennies to rub together but who are nevertheless too polite to ignore the sales pitch.

I only went in for a prawn sarnie and some crisps.
Because I'm a miserable sod, I often reply with " I'm sorry I don't mind giving to the charities I support but I'm really offended with you begging and demanding money in the street like this".


Anyway: things that really offend me.

Virtually anyone, ever ringing into express an opinion on the radio. Usually with absolutely no knowledge on the subject.

It's up there with birthday shouts outs and mentions of friends and family.

Just awful.



captain_cynic

12,066 posts

96 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Cotty said:
talksthetorque said:
People going slowly everywhere today.
40 in a 60, 22 in a clear 30 with no side roads,
Well they do say its a limit not a target.
The irony of that is for speed limits to work best as a safety device they should really be treated as a target.

The main safety feature of speed limits isn't that they limit speed, rather they're meant to get everyone going the same speed. It's not excessive speed that causes crashes (fatalities sure, but not crashes), rather it's speed differential that increases the risk of being involved in a collision. After +/- 10 MPH difference from the median speed your risk of being involved in a collision progressively increases. This is called the Solomon curve.

So speed limits should be a target, so that everyone knows what the median speed of that road should be and to stick to it.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Usget said:
Shakermaker said:
British Airways and their refund policy.

They cocked up at their end, in a manner of speaking, by putting me on an aircraft which was then unable to take off, thus causing a delay.

When I went to claim a refund, they only refunded me £11 of my £40 ticket with the remaining £29 taken as a "reasonable service and administration charge" for the purpose of refunding me.

Three weeks later, they've just sent me the other £29 after a few emails and finally me having to write them an actual letter which went in the post to a different department.

That I am still around £115 down because of the cost of parking and my return flight is probably by-the-by now and I have to just suck that up, but I don't see how charging people money when they have made an error is in any way fair or proper!
Don't let them fob you off by telling you they won't refund your parking.

Keep plugging away at them and you'll get it back eventually. If they keep mucking you about, tell them you'll open a case with the CEDR. https://www.cedr.com/consumer/aviation/.

Are you not also entitled to compensation under EU251, or did they come up with a creative "wrong sort of weather" argument for why the plane was unable to take off?
The plane was able to take off (or rather, a different plane was able to take off) which was 2h45 min later. As I was only travelling up for the day, by the time this would have all worked out I would have been late for my meeting. We were offered the option of getting off as BA were clearly aware this was a service used a lot by business types, and half a dozen of us did just that, the chap who came to meet us at the terminal to escort us out directed us to the BA website for the refund and apologised for the delay etc. So it falls below the "3 hour" mark that airlines have in place for this kind of thing.

It was more that, having agreed to refund me the cost of my ticket, they decided to apply some arbitrary service charge fee for dealing with the refund, and the three weeks it took me to get this back from them.

glenrobbo

35,295 posts

151 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Radio adverts where they read out the "small print" in a high speed garbled concentrated extremely irritating burst of gobbledygook.

STOP IT FFS!!!

Clockwork Cupcake

74,615 posts

273 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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glenrobbo said:
Radio adverts where they read out the "small print" in a high speed garbled concentrated extremely irritating burst of gobbledygook.

STOP IT FFS!!!
If they could, they would. It's a legal requirement for it to be said, and time is money when you're paying for advertising.

glenrobbo

35,295 posts

151 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Grahamdub said:
The Co-Op near us are one for the charities. There is always a Big Issue seller by the door and they often have a desk inside for some charity or other..
Oh.

Big Issue, you say? rolleyes

I thought that chugger was trying to flog me bigger shoes.

I said if I wanted bigger shoes, I'd go to a shoe shop.

But as you say, it's all just a load of cobblers. Just fk off and stop obstructing the doorway.

There's usually one outside our local Asda.
Positions herself adjacent to the cashpoint near the entrance and accosts all comers.
At the end of the day, gets picked up by some geezer in a big flashy Mercedes. tts!

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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glenrobbo said:
Grahamdub said:
The Co-Op near us are one for the charities. There is always a Big Issue seller by the door and they often have a desk inside for some charity or other..
Oh.

Big Issue, you say? rolleyes

I thought that chugger was trying to flog me bigger shoes.

I said if I wanted bigger shoes, I'd go to a shoe shop.

But as you say, it's all just a load of cobblers
What you did there, I see it Glen. smile

Clockwork Cupcake

74,615 posts

273 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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glenrobbo said:
I thought that chugger was trying to flog me bigger shoes.
EEEveee stannah!

Antony Moxey

8,091 posts

220 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
glenrobbo said:
Radio adverts where they read out the "small print" in a high speed garbled concentrated extremely irritating burst of gobbledygook.

STOP IT FFS!!!
If they could, they would. It's a legal requirement for it to be said, and time is money when you're paying for advertising.
Why can't they just say terms and conditions apply, instead of reading out the whole offer including costs, monthly payments, final payments, the models it applies to, the start date, the end date and a whole bunch of other things? Surely that's covered by 'terms and conditions apply' without having to actually read them all out?

Usget

5,426 posts

212 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Grahamdub said:
There is always a Big Issue seller by the door
Big Issue sellers are a different kettle of fish, I don't mind anyone selling that anywhere. They have a product they're selling in exchange for some money and I'm free not to buy that product. And nobody ever sold the Big Issue because they were too rich and bored.

For me that's completely different from people being permitted - and paid - to stand inside the shop itself and basically beg on behalf of an organisation.

Tim-D

528 posts

223 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Antony Moxey said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
glenrobbo said:
Radio adverts where they read out the "small print" in a high speed garbled concentrated extremely irritating burst of gobbledygook.

STOP IT FFS!!!
If they could, they would. It's a legal requirement for it to be said, and time is money when you're paying for advertising.
Why can't they just say terms and conditions apply, instead of readingy out the whole offer including costs, monthly payments, final payments, the models it applies to, the start date, the end date and a whole bunch of other things? Surely that's covered by 'terms and conditions apply' without having to actually read them all out?
I'm one of those responsible.... From the standpoint of financial services advertising the amount of 'gobbledygook' is an fca / asa requirement.... It wouldn't air without the waffle....
It pains the firms to have to do it as much as the viewers / listeners.... My mob choose to put it all on screen which is almost as annoying as the speedread brigade.... And yes our ads feature prominently in the 'ads that make you want to smash up your TV thread'... but... Annoying makes commercial gold....

SORRY!!....

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

117 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
This thread annoys me beyond reason silly
The Needlework Thread has a vacancy.

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

117 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Roger Irrelevant said:
Antony Moxey said:
Buskers. Just been for a weekend in London to see a show - every corner you turn there’s some skinny tt shrilling his was through a ropey Tom Odell or Ed Sheehan cover on a tinny guitar. Your suffering of this aural raping is compounded by the idiot audience blocking the thoroughfare encouraging these screechers meaning you struggle to get past and back to the sanctuary of traffic noise.

The sooner these ‘street entertainers’ are locked up for crimes against entertainment and our teeth return from the edge they’re hanging from the better. bds.

Edited by Antony Moxey on Monday 21st January 09:48
I spend quite a bit of time in York where buskers are plentiful indeed. While they're generally OK, and some are superb, I have developed a hatred of the ones that use backing music blasting out through an amplifier. They usually seem to do this in an attempt to cover the fact that their musical/vocal skills are somewhat lacking. I feel really sorry for the poor sods who work in the shops outside which they decide to pitch up - even though the council have told buskers that they need to spend no longer than two hours in any one spot that's usually enough for them to go through their entire act four or five times over.
My favourite busk was a complete string quartet in a shop doorway, Sunday morning, 5th Avenue New York. A large crowd had gathered.

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

117 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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captain_cynic said:
Cotty said:
talksthetorque said:
People going slowly everywhere today.
40 in a 60, 22 in a clear 30 with no side roads,
Well they do say its a limit not a target.
The irony of that is for speed limits to work best as a safety device they should really be treated as a target.

The main safety feature of speed limits isn't that they limit speed, rather they're meant to get everyone going the same speed. It's not excessive speed that causes crashes (fatalities sure, but not crashes), rather it's speed differential that increases the risk of being involved in a collision. After +/- 10 MPH difference from the median speed your risk of being involved in a collision progressively increases. This is called the Solomon curve.

So speed limits should be a target, so that everyone knows what the median speed of that road should be and to stick to it.
I spent, it seemed like an eternity, time on a DC today. Most of the vehicles were travelling at different speeds for various reasons. Cars, vans, HGV, farm traffic, and I reached my destination on time without problems. Historically this is the usual pattern I experience.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Usget said:
Grahamdub said:
There is always a Big Issue seller by the door
Big Issue sellers are a different kettle of fish, I don't mind anyone selling that anywhere. They have a product they're selling in exchange for some money and I'm free not to buy that product. And nobody ever sold the Big Issue because they were too rich and bored.

For me that's completely different from people being permitted - and paid - to stand inside the shop itself and basically beg on behalf of an organisation.
I'm in two minds about them. The one near me is there every day, sat right in front of the door and has been for a few years now. She has a mobile phone and lives in a nice house. She also had a young child (3-4 I believe) who she leaves at home with someone and has recently had another. She takes money for the Big Issue, but occasionally just asks for money. I often see other sellers in Bristol who seem genuinely homeless, but this one seems to treat it as a business.

glenrobbo

35,295 posts

151 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
glenrobbo said:
I thought that chugger was trying to flog me bigger shoes.
EEEveee stannah!
biggrinthumbup

I always heard it as "EEEEEeeeen.... STANNatt!!! But that was more dahn the East End. wink

Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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glenrobbo said:
biggrinthumbup

I always heard it as "EEEEEeeeen.... STANNatt!!! But that was more dahn the East End. wink
Who remembers, donkeys years back, when London had three papers,
Staaaar, Nooze and Stannah!
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