How much do you earn?

[SystemParanoia]

S9JTO said:

I'm 22 and currently took a position on £36k starting in January, the pension is 26.5% so I'm taking that into account. My girlfriend is 19 and she's earning £28k + 26.5% pension too. I don't really know how we compare to most young people in the UK but judging by our friends we seem to be doing well. I live in the North West so housing etc is cheaper than most of the UK.

I must add, we both still live at home. So banking £1k-ish each a month, then proceeding to spend it on cars. The rest goes on board, direct debits and general st.

What stack do you specialise in ?

[S9JTO]

SystemParanoia said:

What stack do you specialise in ?

OS wise Linux, never touched Windows except from home use.

BASH/Shell
Jenkins
NGINX/Apache
SaltStack/Ansible
AWS/VMware
Pingdom/PagerDuty/OpenNMS

Just copied and pasted from my LinkedIn, but yeah... I read your posted earlier in the thread - You're getting a seriously bad deal where you're at currently. I'd strongly recommend looking in to 2nd/3rd line support roles in Manchester if it's possible for you to commute/relocate.

[SystemParanoia]

I just nuked my Proxmox VM stack and replaced it with windows Datacentre with Hyper-V as i felt i wasnt getting experience that would actually get me a job.

bahh..

My problem is im not specialised in any field..
My fear is, falling down the wrong rabbit hole; becoming hyper specialised in a field and being completely unemployable because of it.

On the plus side, ive just attempted to sign up to the git education pack https://education.github.com/pack
( kids just started secondary school and have a o365 account )

so i should have about $200 free AWS credits to play with soon and access to microsoft imagine

Edited by SystemParanoia on Saturday 23 December 23:44

[S9JTO]

SystemParanoia said:

I just nuked my Proxmox VM stack and replaced it with windows Datacentre with Hyper-V as i felt i wasnt getting experience that would actually get me a job.

bahh..

My problem is im not specialised in any field..
My fear is, falling down the wrong rabbit hole; becoming hyper specialised in a field and being completely unemployable because of it.

On the plus side, ive just attempted to sign up to the git education pack https://education.github.com/pack
( kids just started secondary school and have a o365 account )

so i should have about $200 free AWS credits to play with soon and access to microsoft imagine

Edited by SystemParanoia on Saturday 23 December 23:44

My bad I forgot to mention Git. I don't specialise in anything. I got dropped in to this role by sheer luck and just took a genuine interest since. You just need an opportunity, foot in the door etc to prove yourself. I've noticed that a massive part of getting IT jobs is the willingness to learn and be genuinely passionate about it. You seem to have that covered, so go out and apply for some more technical, less 'people' roles i.e. 2nd/3rd line and then go down the development or DevOps route.

My advice would be to get some experience in either AWS or Azure, probably Azure as you appear to be from a Windows background. With a good working understanding of a development lifecycle, google GitFlow. And then add some technical specialties such as a programming language (PowerShell/Python/BASH). Look in to a configuration management tool, I'd recommend Puppet, again based on your Windows experience. As well as an automation/continuous delivery platform like Jenkins.

[anonymous-user]

My best year was 2002 - 70k + that year.
Then I stopped working extra hours & company takeovers 2010 onward's effectively stopped pay rises, as was paid too much for the grade etc etc.
But nobody else got rises anyway due to the recession etc, so salary wasn't eroded too much!
Winding down now, 868 working days until I will retire @60... & do something else. Unless they pay me off before, 58ish would be perfect as will get a years salary, worth more in reality due to the tax free element.
Almost over the line

[Cheapstraitsix]

Took some risks and made 6 figures for the first time this year, up from £50kish last year.....god knows what I spent it all on as I feel non the richer!

[Barchettaman]

Been a good year so far, helped by an absolute belter of a December (7 unplanned shows and a further 2 in January), flipside of that is I have no shows in February (rehearsing a new production in Strasbourg) so my income then will be pretty much €0.

[talksthetorque]

Caddyshack said:

Maybe I am mis guided by living in Surrey / Hants then? We arrange mortgages for people and £100k plus is bread and butter, maybe it is more localised than I thought but we work with people from Devon to Yorkshire and there seem like loads of this band of income.

I.t contractors, company directors, sales people, HR, developers, car sales, telecoms, Accountants, Solicitors, Doctors, Dentists, Recruitment, Marketing, Actors, TV personalities etc....

It’s strange, but I was on another thread where someone was saying that they were looking to buy an Aston Martin. They were worried that there wasn’t a local specialist. Someone else wrote that it shouldn’t be a problem as there were three within 20 minutes of him. I thought to myself ‘ I bet he lives in Surrey’ and sure enough his profile concurred. Where you live is the richest place in the country. It’s really nice and I’d love to live there. But it is nowhere near representative of the country as a whole

[fridaypassion]

Some of the figures mentioned earlier didn't quite ring true but there are some interesting stats here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_Unit...

Entry point to the top 10% of earners is just over 35k which I find an amazingly low entry point?

Just under 100k and you are in the top 1% again I would have thought that entry point would have been way more.

[johnwilliams77]

talksthetorque said:

It’s strange, but I was on another thread where someone was saying that they were looking to buy an Aston Martin. They were worried that there wasn’t a local specialist. Someone else wrote that it shouldn’t be a problem as there were three within 20 minutes of him. I thought to myself ‘ I bet he lives in Surrey’ and sure enough his profile concurred. Where you live is the richest place in the country. It’s really nice and I’d love to live there. But it is nowhere near representative of the country as a whole

No, but it's good to forget all the poor people exist.

[FN2TypeR]

johnwilliams77 said:

No, but it's good to forget all the poor people exist.

Are you in Government?

[HannsG]

I have a rich daddy and mommy who pay for my house, kids, wife, dog, cars and fish.

Old man loves reminding me.

Edited by HannsG on Sunday 24th December 21:24

[NickCQ]

Cheapstraitsix said:

Took some risks and made 6 figures for the first time this year, up from £50kish last year.....god knows what I spent it all on as I feel non the richer!

Ain’t that the truth. >50% was tax probably, so only about £20k more cash in your pocket... not life changing.

[TheGuru]

fridaypassion said:

Some of the figures mentioned earlier didn't quite ring true but there are some interesting stats here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_Unit...

Entry point to the top 10% of earners is just over 35k which I find an amazingly low entry point?

Just under 100k and you are in the top 1% again I would have thought that entry point would have been way more.

The reality is not many people earn over 100k, if you earn that amount then also everyone you know generally earns high salaries and your viewpoint is distorted.

Just think about your daily interactions - the bus and train drivers, the retail staff, the restaurant and cafe staff, the police, armed forces, firemen, paramedics, nurses, many doctors and lawyers - none of them are on 100k.

[Japveesix]

hyphen said:

Caddyshack said:

£160k per yr there will be many next door neighbours in average street earning that.

Where are these average streets

I live in an area of Bristol where most of the houses (3 bed semis) are only about £200k and it's true that pretty much all of my neighbours are on an easy 6figs, most well into the hundreds of thousands.

That's why they all drive old vauxhalls and 1 litre KIAs and go on package holidays to Majorca. Stealth wealth you see.

[fridaypassion]

Yes but only 1% of the whole working population? I just would have thought the entry point into that would have been higher than 100k

I'm not a golf club member or freemason or anything so my personal view I would say is balanced. I have friends in professions as much as I do just regular guys. Used to be in the trades myself once upon a time.

[Blakeatron]

Glasgowrob said:

run my own business and work probably an average of 80-90 hours a week.


in terms of how much I earn, i'd be far better off working in Mcdonalds on minimum wage.

Yep - all my lads earn more than me if i broke it down to hourly.

Luckily the dividends and extras pump it back up

[anonymous-user]

On the averages and where the percentiles lay, it won't be easy to compile that information truthfully.

Shareholders of SMEs will take large chunks in divis, as well as other benefits. A decent slug of sole traders and partnerships won't declare all their income (for example, pocketing cash sales). A proportion of both will split their income with spouse to take advantage of tax allowances.

There will be thousands of small businesses where the owners take home more than 99% of corporate employees, though I bet the tax system sees it differently.

I took about half my income in PAYE and half in divis this year (multi-shareholder SME with a t/o of roughly £4m).

[talksthetorque]

FN2TypeR said:

Are you in Government?

No, I’m in Hazelmere

[e30m3Mark]

I earn rubbish wages but it's enough to let me live where I want and own a car that I wanted for years. I'm happy most days and that's what really matters to me now.