How much do you earn?

How much do you earn?

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anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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johnwilliams77 said:
Around 210k. What is your job?
Digital transformation & technology leadership.

S9JTO

1,915 posts

86 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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wormus said:
Digital transformation & technology leadership.
Sounds like DWP/HMRC

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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wormus said:
Digital transformation & technology leadership.
Congrats. What a great position to be in (assuming it's enjoyable!)

bad company

18,598 posts

266 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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Jiebo said:
£625 per day, on a 220 working day per year contract. You do the maths.
Here we go, a nice session of PH ‘Willy Waving’ .

djc206

12,353 posts

125 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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Jiebo said:
£625 per day, on a 220 working day per year contract. You do the maths.
You work too much

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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S9JTO said:
wormus said:
Digital transformation & technology leadership.
Sounds like DWP/HMRC
Sounds like a load of st rather

limpsfield

5,886 posts

253 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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bad company said:
Jiebo said:
£625 per day, on a 220 working day per year contract. You do the maths.
Here we go, a nice session of PH ‘Willy Waving’ .
Yep. But impressive that it took this long.

How many pages in?

You do the maths.

NewNameNeeded

2,560 posts

225 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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bad company said:
Jiebo said:
£625 per day, on a 220 working day per year contract. You do the maths.
Here we go, a nice session of PH ‘Willy Waving’ .
Why is it willy waving when it's in a thread about how much people earn? Assuming it's truthful. Because they earn really good money?

Condi

17,195 posts

171 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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There will always be people who earn more, and people who earn less.

Im far less interested in how much I earn, and much more interested in how much I spend. Mainly because Im not sure where most of it goes, and secondly because running out is far more of an issue than massaging an ego on payday!

bad company

18,598 posts

266 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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NewNameNeeded said:
bad company said:
Jiebo said:
£625 per day, on a 220 working day per year contract. You do the maths.
Here we go, a nice session of PH ‘Willy Waving’ .
Why is it willy waving when it's in a thread about how much people earn? Assuming it's truthful. Because they earn really good money?
How can that be right when he only gets £650 per day? That’s poverty in any language.

TheGuru

744 posts

101 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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wormus said:
Digital transformation & technology leadership.
At a junior level I'm guessing on those rates

petop

2,141 posts

166 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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£370 a day but then I don't pay income tax. Sounds good until I say for 300 days of the year I live in a converted ISO container in a place where this morning we were attacked by rockets.....to be honest we expected it on Xmas Day but the cheeky scamps played smart.

But I wouldn't want to do anything different. I get to see and do things that even in the environment i'm in compared to others they would not see.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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johnwilliams77 said:
wormus said:
Digital transformation & technology leadership.
Congrats. What a great position to be in (assuming it's enjoyable!)
Thanks. It’s interesting but difficult as changing people and culture is more tricky than putting in a load of new systems. Also many large businesses just throw money at it, normally outsourcing and therefore abdicating responsibility to a third party, only for it to fail.

Keeps me busy though and there’s quite a bit of demand for it and not many people doing it well. The plan is to do this full time for 3-5 years then drop down to 2 days a week as a consultant/trouble shooter.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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S9JTO said:
Sounds like DWP/HMRC
On-line retail mostly, started with .coms in the late “90s, moved onto pure players/technology-led brands through the 2000s for the past 7 years been concentrating on large retail brands.

Retail is the most difficult as for many it’s a race to the bottom and I think we will see many more go out of business. I’m changing sector in the new year which I’m very much looking forward to.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 26th December 08:50

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

118 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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wormus said:
It’s interesting but difficult as changing people and culture is more tricky than putting in a load of new systems. Also many large businesses just throw money at it, normally outsourcing and therefore abdicating responsibility to a third party, only for it to fail.
Ain't that the truth hehe

If you don't mind sharing.. How did you get into it?

I'd take a wild guess at DevOps or management in IT?


Edited by cat with a hat on Tuesday 26th December 08:56

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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cat with a hat said:
Ain't that the truth hehe

If you don't mind sharing.. How did you get into it?

And is this around software development? (I'm in product management)
As above really, started off in IT and was lucky enough to contract as a classic ASP developer in the late 90s for a number of startups including Boo.com. Fun times! Then the bubble burst in 2001 and I moved into perm world. Did consultancy (body shopping) on a number of big projects and by then many of the .com successs had matured and needed their technology overhauling. That’s really where it started I’d say about 2005. No such thing as product management back then but I became a Scrum Master in 2006 and started to become much more commercially focussed and familiar with that area. I’ve had significant success with a number of well known brands and now I’m much more focussed on business outcomes. IT is only one element if that makes sense but yes, Agile software delivery inc Dev-ops is one cornerstone to success.

I’m a powerfully built Director now bit I do still like to keep involved with people and process, helping where I can. No room for egos in this field.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 26th December 09:20

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

118 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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wormus said:
cat with a hat said:
Ain't that the truth hehe

If you don't mind sharing.. How did you get into it?

And is this around software development? (I'm in product management)
As above really, started off in IT and was lucky enough to contract as a classic ASP developer in the late 90s for a number of startups including Boo.com. Fun times! Then the bubble burst in 2001 and I moved into perm world. Did consultancy (body shopping) on a number of big projects and by then many of the .com successs had matured and needed their technology overhauling. That’s really where it started I’d say about 2005. No such thing as product management but I became a Scrum Master in 2006 and started to become much more commercially focussed and familiar with that area. I’ve had significant success with a number of well known brands and now I’m much more focussed on business outcomes.
Thanks, I saw your other response and started to realise the buzzwords like DevOps, agile and product management weren't around until recently biggrin

I always find it interesting speaking to a potential employer about how fked up their current processes are hehe

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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cat with a hat said:
Thanks, I saw your other response and started to realise the buzzwords like DevOps, agile and product management weren't around until recently biggrin

I always find it interesting speaking to a potential employer about how fked up their current processes are hehe
Indeed and not many people seem to understand what good looks like. Large corporations still like big waterfall projects as their return on investment is dependent on when the programme of work is complete. That means they need a date! The last project I worked on lasted 3 years and involved several hundred people which is impossible to estimate and quite difficult to sell.

98elise

26,616 posts

161 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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cat with a hat said:
wormus said:
It’s interesting but difficult as changing people and culture is more tricky than putting in a load of new systems. Also many large businesses just throw money at it, normally outsourcing and therefore abdicating responsibility to a third party, only for it to fail.
Ain't that the truth hehe

If you don't mind sharing.. How did you get into it?

I'd take a wild guess at DevOps or management in IT?


Edited by cat with a hat on Tuesday 26th December 08:56
Is it the work or the money attracting you?

Good money can be made contracting in any field as long as you are good at what you do. I'm an average BA contractor so earn average rate. A good friend of mine is a top DBA and his daily rate is more than double mine.

ikarl

3,730 posts

199 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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bad company said:
NewNameNeeded said:
bad company said:
Jiebo said:
£625 per day, on a 220 working day per year contract. You do the maths.
Here we go, a nice session of PH ‘Willy Waving’ .
Why is it willy waving when it's in a thread about how much people earn? Assuming it's truthful. Because they earn really good money?
How can that be right when he only gets £650 per day? That’s poverty in any language.
hehe