Astonishing Facts....

Astonishing Facts....

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matthias73

2,883 posts

151 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Ayahuasca said:
Zoobeef said:
That's what I mean, I assume bullet moving in barrel rather than finger on trigger. Although I bet most GPMGs are over 10 seconds nowadays.
GPMGs have changeable barrels. Maybe they all have new ones now.
The barrels have record books and can't be used indefinitely.

To start with they are accurate enough to be used as overhead effects guns during live firing training- bullets flying a few metres above the heads of the guys. For this purpose they need to be accurate. They then get downgraded as they continue their life and ultimately end up getting binned.



Bright Halo

2,973 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Snipers shooting at targets in excess of approx (variations dependant) 1 mile have to allow for the rotation of the earth.
If shooting North an extra allowance to the East is made. If shooting to the South an extra allowance to the West is made.
If shooting to the East less drop is encountered than if shooting to the West.
The affect is greatest at the equator with further variations depending on latitude.
This is a factual affect that flat earthers have no answer for.

louiechevy

645 posts

194 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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On top of that shooting on a windy day a reasonable cross wind will push a small bullet a few grams in weight travelling at in my case twice the speed of sound over a distance of say three hundred metres three or four feet to one side, resulting in a message from the butts that you've missed the target board.... again!

Russian Troll Bot

24,990 posts

228 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Bright Halo said:
Snipers shooting at targets in excess of approx (variations dependant) 1 mile have to allow for the rotation of the earth.
If shooting North an extra allowance to the East is made. If shooting to the South an extra allowance to the West is made.
If shooting to the East less drop is encountered than if shooting to the West.
The affect is greatest at the equator with further variations depending on latitude.
This is a factual affect that flat earthers have no answer for.
Simple - snipers, along with NASA, airline pilots, ship captains and globe manufacturers are all part of the Illuminati sworn to keeping the truth from us

Captain Smerc

3,023 posts

117 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Digger said:
Inhale Hitler...
rofl

peterperkins

3,152 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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alfie2244 said:
Six Figs said:
alfie2244 said:
Cats?
And dogs.

'What is allowed in Switzerland, is to slaughter and consumption of both cat and dog meat in a private setting.'

Edited by Six Figs on Sunday 11th February 18:07
Bit surprised at cat meat being nice to eat for some reason,,,,no idea why though.
Well I always found pussy quite tasty... lick

Celtic Dragon

3,169 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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louiechevy said:
The actual time the bullet is in the barrel for is a small fraction of a second, especially with muzzle velocities over three thousand meters a second. Put five or ten thousand rounds down the barrel it's pretty much worn out. A few years ago I had the barrel replaced on my 1916 Lee Enfield and the gun Smith who replaced it gave my this bit of information. Also telling me that on firing the pressure in the breach is over fifty thousand psi!

It's even worse with tank guns the challenger 2 main gun is good for about 1500 rounds before it needs replacing!

Edited by louiechevy on Tuesday 24th April 21:14
A smith explained to me that for that very reason why headspace and chamber round fit were important. In a nutshell, the breech and bolt are containing a quite potent explosion.

I still can’t get over that the German Leopard 2 ranks use a smooth bore barrel, all the accuracy comes from the ammunition.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Celtic Dragon said:
louiechevy said:
The actual time the bullet is in the barrel for is a small fraction of a second, especially with muzzle velocities over three thousand meters a second. Put five or ten thousand rounds down the barrel it's pretty much worn out. A few years ago I had the barrel replaced on my 1916 Lee Enfield and the gun Smith who replaced it gave my this bit of information. Also telling me that on firing the pressure in the breach is over fifty thousand psi!

It's even worse with tank guns the challenger 2 main gun is good for about 1500 rounds before it needs replacing!

Edited by louiechevy on Tuesday 24th April 21:14
A smith explained to me that for that very reason why headspace and chamber round fit were important. In a nutshell, the breech and bolt are containing a quite potent explosion.

I still can’t get over that the German Leopard 2 ranks use a smooth bore barrel, all the accuracy comes from the ammunition.
All modern main battle tanks use smooth bore barrels, with the exception of our Challenger 2 which retains a spinny barrel.

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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peterperkins said:
alfie2244 said:
Six Figs said:
alfie2244 said:
Cats?
And dogs.

'What is allowed in Switzerland, is to slaughter and consumption of both cat and dog meat in a private setting.'

Edited by Six Figs on Sunday 11th February 18:07
Bit surprised at cat meat being nice to eat for some reason,,,,no idea why though.
Well I always found pussy quite tasty... lick
Cats in Switzerland are sometimes killed for their pelts as they are thought to be good for arthritis, IIRC.

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

117 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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singlecoil said:
The central riff from Jimi Hendrix's "Third Stone from the Sun" is based on the Coronation Street theme.
I'm sure Jimi never missed an episode.music

Another possible: From 'Electric Ladyland' , ' Voodoo Chile Slight (Rovers) Return.








Edited by nonsequitur on Wednesday 25th April 11:21

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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louiechevy said:
The actual time the bullet is in the barrel for is a small fraction of a second, especially with muzzle velocities over three thousand meters a second.
That's one hell of a hot load! eek

Especially given that NATO 5.56mm (which itself is quite a hot load) exits the barrel of the L85 at a mere 930 m/s.

Tango13

8,451 posts

177 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
louiechevy said:
The actual time the bullet is in the barrel for is a small fraction of a second, especially with muzzle velocities over three thousand meters a second.
That's one hell of a hot load! eek

Especially given that NATO 5.56mm (which itself is quite a hot load) exits the barrel of the L85 at a mere 930 m/s.
3,000 feet per second is 914.4 m/s...

Someone has got their metres confused with their feet methinks

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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I think so! wink

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

152 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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Ayahuasca said:
At any given moment there are more than 1,000 Boeing 737s in the air.
At any given moment there are over one million people in the air.

louiechevy

645 posts

194 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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Tango13 said:
3,000 feet per second is 914.4 m/s...

Someone has got their metres confused with their feet methinks
Whoops paperbag feet per second. Blame it on old age, and the fact one of the ranges I shoot on has 100,200,300,400 and 500 meter firing points and lastly 600 yards as a 600 meter point would of been on the other side of a main road.

langtounlad

781 posts

172 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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louiechevy said:
Tango13 said:
3,000 feet per second is 914.4 m/s...

Someone has got their metres confused with their feet methinks
Whoops paperbag feet per second. Blame it on old age, and the fact one of the ranges I shoot on has 100,200,300,400 and 500 meter firing points and lastly 600 yards as a 600 meter point would of been on the other side of a main road.
Are you using feet, metres or gas meters or electricity meters?

louiechevy

645 posts

194 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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I'm also dyslexic and rely on the spell checking function so sometimes I use the wrong word.

RizzoTheRat

25,191 posts

193 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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Thinking of shooting, the longest confirmed sniper kill is 3500m. The bullet would have been in flight over 4.5 seconds and dropped at least 45 meters* by the time it reached the target.

Given that the second longest shot is just under 2500m I'm guessing it was a lucky shot though.

* Probably quite a bit more but I have not idea how much it would have slowed down




silverfoxcc

7,692 posts

146 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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Apologies if already mentioned

If you set up a gun horizontal to the ground and at 1m height from the barrel end and fired it, the bullet would hit the ground at the same time as another bullet dropped from the same height at the same moment ( to the millisecond

All to do with gravitational pull

Greg_D

6,542 posts

247 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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RizzoTheRat said:
Thinking of shooting, the longest confirmed sniper kill is 3500m. The bullet would have been in flight over 4.5 seconds and dropped at least 45 meters* by the time it reached the target.

Given that the second longest shot is just under 2500m I'm guessing it was a lucky shot though.

* Probably quite a bit more but I have not idea how much it would have slowed down
apparently it wasn't fluke, i seem to remember that the report stated that once the chap had figured it all out, he reloaded and got the opposing spotter as well with a follow up shot....