What are your unpopular opinions?
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IJB1959 said:
Really?......well I'll happily live with that. What's black people got to do with it anyway?? I just particularly object to small impressionable children being influenced by this. If you don't then I feel sorry for you.
What do you do when you see two men holding hands in the street? Or a kiss on the cheek in the street? Shield your children's eyes? Change direction?I want my young children to understand that the world is a fascinating place, to be tolerant and open minded and that not everyone is the same colour, ability, sexuality, etc...
IJB1959 said:
Also before the 9pm watershed the small kids endured 2 men and 2 women kissing on mainstream TV. They even now tell the kids in our local school that homosexual behaviour should be encouraged and celebrated.
How long before the 9pm watershed, and what TV show were you watching with "small kids" where this happened? And then, since when has kissing been avoided before the 9pm watershed? Anna Friel did the whole lesbian kiss thing on Brookside over 20 years ago, this is hardly groundbreaking TV. I'm going to hazard a guess it wasn't on "Charlie and Lola" or "Peppa Pig" - or that the kids are old enough to be allowed to watch Eastenders without you being too worried about it normally.
If your children are confused about it, they can always ask you to explain it (which is ALWAYS the answer that anyone who makes Eastenders or similar will give you...)
IJB1959 said:
Mr Gearchange said:
Because in the not so distant past black people couldnt rely on the support of the police, they would look the other way when things happened to them and people would be up in arms about them kissing on TV and the like - thankfully that abhorrent views is confined to the past.
You however seem to think that the police showing support for LGBT people and showing them on TV kissing is degrading our moral fabric and ‘rammming it down our throats’. Your views belong in the early part of last century and you will find yourself fully on the wrong side of history.
My kids know that some people are gay and it’s not weird of threatening to them as it seems to be for you, seeing gay people doesn’t ‘influence them’. Id be much more worried about them running into someone with such moronic views as yourself than anyone from the LBGT community.
Your world view is weird - I feel sorry for you.
You keep harping on about black people and their struggle for equality....different subject completely. Should LBGT (and black people as you put it) be treated equally in law?...yes of course. Nice to know that you consider your views as 'trendy 2018' much like the Labour left Momentum camp do, but we all do not share your opinion where undue influence on A child's sexuality is concerned. Paedophiles do that sort of thing.You however seem to think that the police showing support for LGBT people and showing them on TV kissing is degrading our moral fabric and ‘rammming it down our throats’. Your views belong in the early part of last century and you will find yourself fully on the wrong side of history.
My kids know that some people are gay and it’s not weird of threatening to them as it seems to be for you, seeing gay people doesn’t ‘influence them’. Id be much more worried about them running into someone with such moronic views as yourself than anyone from the LBGT community.
Your world view is weird - I feel sorry for you.
Edited by IJB1959 on Tuesday 20th February 13:51
You also seem to be equating showing two blokes kissing on TV to some kind of paedophile subplot.
Just move away from the keyboard - you make yourself look more like an idiotic dinosaur with each interaction.
Either that or just trolling - I genuinely can’t tell.
Edited by Mr Gearchange on Tuesday 20th February 14:09
Vaud said:
IJB1959 said:
Really?......well I'll happily live with that. What's black people got to do with it anyway?? I just particularly object to small impressionable children being influenced by this. If you don't then I feel sorry for you.
What do you do when you see two men holding hands in the street? Or a kiss on the cheek in the street? Shield your children's eyes? Change direction?I want my young children to understand that the world is a fascinating place, to be tolerant and open minded and that not everyone is the same colour, ability, sexuality, etc...
captain_cynic said:
No, TG or QI never would have existed. They would have been replaced with versions of Big Brother or whatever reality crap is about.
However Fry got where he is by being intelligent and funny, so I'm not surprised that you don't know.
Exactly, you wouldn't have known any difference.However Fry got where he is by being intelligent and funny, so I'm not surprised that you don't know.
As for Fry,he's not funny and intelligence comes in different forms.
Lot of 'intelligent " people are experts at one thing,thick as pig s
t in all others.You'd know that though.
Mr Gearchange said:
IJB1959 said:
Mr Gearchange said:
Because in the not so distant past black people couldnt rely on the support of the police, they would look the other way when things happened to them and people would be up in arms about them kissing on TV and the like - thankfully that abhorrent views is confined to the past.
You however seem to think that the police showing support for LGBT people and showing them on TV kissing is degrading our moral fabric and ‘rammming it down our throats’. Your views belong in the early part of last century and you will find yourself fully on the wrong side of history.
My kids know that some people are gay and it’s not weird of threatening to them as it seems to be for you, seeing gay people doesn’t ‘influence them’. Id be much more worried about them running into someone with such moronic views as yourself than anyone from the LBGT community.
Your world view is weird - I feel sorry for you.
You keep harping on about black people and their struggle for equality....different subject completely. Should LBGT (and black people as you put it) be treated equally in law?...yes of course. Nice to know that you consider your views as 'trendy 2018' much like the Labour left Momentum camp do, but we all do not share your opinion where undue influence on A child's sexuality is concerned. Paedophiles do that sort of thing.You however seem to think that the police showing support for LGBT people and showing them on TV kissing is degrading our moral fabric and ‘rammming it down our throats’. Your views belong in the early part of last century and you will find yourself fully on the wrong side of history.
My kids know that some people are gay and it’s not weird of threatening to them as it seems to be for you, seeing gay people doesn’t ‘influence them’. Id be much more worried about them running into someone with such moronic views as yourself than anyone from the LBGT community.
Your world view is weird - I feel sorry for you.
Edited by IJB1959 on Tuesday 20th February 13:51
You also seem to be equating showing two blokes kissing on TV to some kind of paedophile subplot.
Just move away from the keyboard - you make yourself look more like an idiotic dinosaur with each interaction.
Either that or just trolling - I genuinely can’t tell.
Edited by Mr Gearchange on Tuesday 20th February 14:09
So, who is the real troll here.....?
Well I don't think the difficulty here is being caused by the guy who posted at 14:26.
All he seems to have been doing is commenting on things he's observed, and expressing reservations about certain aspects, and I share those reservations. Is this not reasonable behaviour? I think it is entirely reasonable.
On the other hand, those with opposing viewpoints have responded in a quite unpleasant manner, so is that how you'd have challenged his views if you were discussing the subject face to face? I suspect it isn't, unless you're unusually argumentative and aggressive in your interactions with others.
To my mind PistonHeads is currently being spoiled by quite unnecessarily unpleasant exchanges of this type, so please can we have a bit more respect for the views of others?
Thank you.
All he seems to have been doing is commenting on things he's observed, and expressing reservations about certain aspects, and I share those reservations. Is this not reasonable behaviour? I think it is entirely reasonable.
On the other hand, those with opposing viewpoints have responded in a quite unpleasant manner, so is that how you'd have challenged his views if you were discussing the subject face to face? I suspect it isn't, unless you're unusually argumentative and aggressive in your interactions with others.
To my mind PistonHeads is currently being spoiled by quite unnecessarily unpleasant exchanges of this type, so please can we have a bit more respect for the views of others?
Thank you.
p1esk said:
Well I don't think the difficulty here is being caused by the guy who posted at 14:26.
All he seems to have been doing is commenting on things he's observed, and expressing reservations about certain aspects, and I share those reservations. Is this not reasonable behaviour? I think it is entirely reasonable.
On the other hand, those with opposing viewpoints have responded in a quite unpleasant manner, so is that how you'd have challenged his views if you were discussing the subject face to face? I suspect it isn't, unless you're unusually argumentative and aggressive in your interactions with others.
To my mind PistonHeads is currently being spoiled by quite unnecessarily unpleasant exchanges of this type, so please can we have a bit more respect for the views of others?
Thank you.
I've said this before that some people on PH are overly aggressive 'road rage' types who just cannot discuss topics and opinions in a normal, mature, and adult way and take stuff so personally that you wonder what is going on in their life, so best we close the LGBT subject for good.All he seems to have been doing is commenting on things he's observed, and expressing reservations about certain aspects, and I share those reservations. Is this not reasonable behaviour? I think it is entirely reasonable.
On the other hand, those with opposing viewpoints have responded in a quite unpleasant manner, so is that how you'd have challenged his views if you were discussing the subject face to face? I suspect it isn't, unless you're unusually argumentative and aggressive in your interactions with others.
To my mind PistonHeads is currently being spoiled by quite unnecessarily unpleasant exchanges of this type, so please can we have a bit more respect for the views of others?
Thank you.
Edited by IJB1959 on Tuesday 20th February 15:03
People seem to be very concerned about young children being influenced by public displays of affection between same sex couples, on tv and in real life. But influenced in what way? Surely, if such things influenced young children, there would be no gay people at all, given that they all had heterosexual parents and would, for decades, never have seen any displays of same sex affection at home, on tv or in the street.
Personally, I'd rather my kids witnessed two men kissing on Coronation St than and man and a woman hurling abuse at each other on Eastenders. Which is why, when my kids were young, Corrie was allowed and Eastenders wasn't.
Personally, I'd rather my kids witnessed two men kissing on Coronation St than and man and a woman hurling abuse at each other on Eastenders. Which is why, when my kids were young, Corrie was allowed and Eastenders wasn't.
IJB1959 said:
You keep harping on about black people and their struggle for equality....different subject completely. Should LBGT (and black people as you put it) be treated equally in law?...yes of course. Nice to know that you consider your views as 'trendy 2018' much like the Labour left Momentum camp do, but we all do not share your opinion where undue influence on A child's sexuality is concerned. Paedophiles do that sort of thing.
I honestly don’t think you can influence someone’s sexuality any more than you can influence the colour of their eyes.Edited by IJB1959 on Tuesday 20th February 13:51
I grew up near Brighton, loads of gays, gay pride, gay pubs etc we even had gay next door neighbours and yet me and my sisters are all straight. We were raised to be tolerant of others and be whoever we are it just do happens we’re all heterosexual. Knowing that homosexuality exists and seeing gay people kissing just as straight couples do is not going to influence your child’s sexuality, if they’re gay its only a matter of time before they find out and come out and seeing it as normal and acceptable is only going to help them accept who they are. Everyone’s a winner.
Too Drunk to Funk said:
grumbledoak said:
I thought The Monkeys were better than The Beatles.
Who wasn't better than The Beatles?I do find it fascinating. I realize we all have differing views, but the song catalogue of the Beatles is just so transparently exceptional that I find it mildly amusing more than anything to hear from someone that they think they are 'overrated'.
Try performing 'Here, There and Everywhere', 'Blackbird', 'Yesterday' and 'For No One' and then have a little think about that band as being anything other than truly astonishing. I do these and others on a nightly basis, and those songs amaze me with the sheer brilliance of the writing even after hundreds of performances.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
People seem to be very concerned about young children being influenced by public displays of affection between same sex couples, on tv and in real life. But influenced in what way? Surely, if such things influenced young children, there would be no gay people at all, given that they all had heterosexual parents and would, for decades, never have seen any displays of same sex affection at home, on tv or in the street.
Personally, I'd rather my kids witnessed two men kissing on Coronation St than and man and a woman hurling abuse at each other on Eastenders. Which is why, when my kids were young, Corrie was allowed and Eastenders wasn't.
I wouldn't want my kid watching any soaps to be honest it gives them a completely unrealistic view of life/relationships!!Personally, I'd rather my kids witnessed two men kissing on Coronation St than and man and a woman hurling abuse at each other on Eastenders. Which is why, when my kids were young, Corrie was allowed and Eastenders wasn't.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
People seem to be very concerned about young children being influenced by public displays of affection between same sex couples, on tv and in real life. But influenced in what way? Surely, if such things influenced young children, there would be no gay people at all, given that they all had heterosexual parents and would, for decades, never have seen any displays of same sex affection at home, on tv or in the street.
Personally, I'd rather my kids witnessed two men kissing on Coronation St than and man and a woman hurling abuse at each other on Eastenders.
Not commenting anymore on one aspect above, I don't let my younger kids watch EastEnders as it a bad influence.Personally, I'd rather my kids witnessed two men kissing on Coronation St than and man and a woman hurling abuse at each other on Eastenders.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Westblue said:
Is London REALLY the capital of England? When British people are in the minority there How can that be?
I appreciate that we have huge numbers of foreign tourists at any given point in London, plus loads of foreign workers, students etc, but surely they don't make up over 50%. Where's your evidence that foreigners outnumber the British in London? Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff