What are your unpopular opinions?

What are your unpopular opinions?

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The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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SystemParanoia said:
That employees should be able to easily see how much their co-workers earn
that is unpopular!

Why? It would cause total carnage

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Blown2CV said:
SystemParanoia said:
That employees should be able to easily see how much their co-workers earn
people that earn less than their colleagues always think that.
How would i know.. that information is not accessible to me without contravening the computer misuse act 1990

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/18/conte...

The Selfish Gene said:
that is unpopular!

Why? It would cause total carnage
Only for employers that take the piss smile

singlecoil

33,605 posts

246 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Shakermaker said:
singlecoil said:
captain_cynic said:
Dr Jekyll said:
It's also supposed to reduce reoffending of course.
Of course, but wouldn't life imprisonment have the same effect...
Life imprisonment is a lot more expensive though.
I wouldn't think it was a "lot" more expensive.

With death sentences, on top of the cost of housing the prisoner for probably 10 years, you have to factor in the huge cost of all the appeals processes that are gone through with many of them, over all the years, to overturn their death sentence. Life imprisonment doesn't quite carry that same impetus and urgency for all those people fighting for amnesty for the incarcerated,
You're thinking of the American system. The British system provided for three Sundays to pass before the sentence was carried out.

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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employers that take the piss?

you mean in that they pay one person what they can get away with?

I firmly believe you negotiate your own salary and it's part of the job........most places have bandings, if you know your worth, say you want top of the banding and if you don't get it, go to somewhere that will pay you it........

unless of course you're a crap freeloader.........and just want to be paid more because the other guy is.......

In my game, it would shut down businesses - as the difference in 'salary' is sometimes 4 or 5 times more with people sitting along side each other

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
employers that take the piss?

you mean in that they pay one person what they can get away with?

I firmly believe you negotiate your own salary and it's part of the job........most places have bandings, if you know you're worth, say you want top of the banding and if you don't get it, go to somewhere that will pay you it........

unless of course you're a crap freeloader.........and just want to be paid more because the other guy is.......

In my game, it would shut down businesses - as the difference in 'salary' is sometimes 4 or 5 times more with people sitting along side each other
nobody's talking about freeloading, or getting an increase in pay for no reason, or anything like that.

Just access to information. then you can choose to keep working knowing what you know. or take your services elsewhere knowing that your employer thought you were worthless to them anyway.

IJB1959

2,139 posts

86 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Blown2CV said:
Countdown said:
We need more Traffic Police.

Traffic Police should be allowed to taser people for driving like dicks.
i'd far rather have more traffic police than 'smart' motorways
If so then traffic Police should have better public relations training.

joshcowin

6,804 posts

176 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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SystemParanoia said:
Blown2CV said:
SystemParanoia said:
That employees should be able to easily see how much their co-workers earn
people that earn less than their colleagues always think that.
How would i know.. that information is not accessible to me without contravening the computer misuse act 1990

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/18/conte...

The Selfish Gene said:
that is unpopular!

Why? It would cause total carnage
Only for employers that take the piss smile
This is a very very bad idea, so I guess you've achieved the thread brief!

StevieBee

12,888 posts

255 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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SystemParanoia said:
or take your services elsewhere knowing that your employer thought you were worthless to them anyway.
If that were the case, the employee would not be working there in the first place and so negates the need for salary disclosure.

Asking someone how much they earn is - in my book anyway - one of the most invasive things you can ask someone and is something that most people choose to keep to themselves. It's nobody's business what they earn. So any disclosure must always be at the employees consent which few would give which again negates the benefit of such information being made available.

As has been mentioned, salary banding is more than sufficient to provide indicative levels of pay across organisations.

fatboy18

18,947 posts

211 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Antony Moxey said:
I like shopping with my wife, whether it be for food, clothes, Christmas presents, stuff that I want to buy, stuff that she wants to buy, whatever. I hate online shopping and will do whatever I can to avoid it.
That's got to be a winning Unpopular opinion right there!

IJB1959

2,139 posts

86 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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fatboy18 said:
Antony Moxey said:
I like shopping with my wife, whether it be for food, clothes, Christmas presents, stuff that I want to buy, stuff that she wants to buy, whatever. I hate online shopping and will do whatever I can to avoid it.
That's got to be a winning Unpopular opinion right there!
Gets my vote, except for the Ann Summers shop. yum

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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fatboy18 said:
Then we have the Pedo and murder problem.
Case comes to mind of James Bulger this is pure evil and the killers have gone on to reoffend in other ways despite being paroled and given name changes.
Hey! This is PH - I'm not sure hanging children is all that unpopular!

50% right about the reoffending. Never mind, hang 'im anyway!

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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PistonHeads is no longer a car forum for petrolheads, it's a bh and moan forum for middle aged men who used to be petrolheads.

Bobberoo99

38,622 posts

98 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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aaron_2000 said:
PistonHeads is no longer a car forum for petrolheads, it's a bh and moan forum for middle aged men who used to be petrolheads.
And your point is????

IJB1959

2,139 posts

86 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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aaron_2000 said:
PistonHeads is no longer a car forum for petrolheads, it's a bh and moan forum for middle aged men who used to be petrolheads.
That depends on which thread/s you follow. Not all PH is just about cars.

JustinF

6,795 posts

203 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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joshcowin said:
SystemParanoia said:
Blown2CV said:
SystemParanoia said:
That employees should be able to easily see how much their co-workers earn
people that earn less than their colleagues always think that.
How would i know.. that information is not accessible to me without contravening the computer misuse act 1990

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/18/conte...

The Selfish Gene said:
that is unpopular!

Why? It would cause total carnage
Only for employers that take the piss smile
This is a very very bad idea, so I guess you've achieved the thread brief!
Works well enough in Norway

https://www.theguardian.com/money/blog/2016/apr/11...

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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IJB1959 said:
That depends on which thread/s you follow. Not all PH is just about cars.
Pretty much any thread, no matter what the subject is, turns into petty argument and laughable insults. I'd argue that next to none of it is about cars.

singlecoil

33,605 posts

246 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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aaron_2000 said:
Pretty much any thread, no matter what the subject is, turns into petty argument and laughable insults.
For the most part, that is untrue.



TameRacingDriver

18,087 posts

272 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Antony Moxey said:
I like shopping with my wife, whether it be for food, clothes, Christmas presents, stuff that I want to buy, stuff that she wants to buy, whatever. I hate online shopping and will do whatever I can to avoid it.
You win the thread thumbup

paulguitar said:
phil1979 said:
I like Piers Morgan
redcard
He's on the right thread then. I kind of like him... he just says what most people think. Kind of because he was an appalling st in the past what with the phone hacking, fake news etc etc.

SystemParanoia said:
That employees should be able to easily see how much their co-workers earn
You must be a close second! I wouldn;t want to know...

aaron_2000 said:
Pretty much any thread forum on the internet, especially if its UK based, no matter what the subject is, turns into petty argument and laughable insults.
FTFY smile

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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JustinF said:
joshcowin said:
SystemParanoia said:
Blown2CV said:
SystemParanoia said:
That employees should be able to easily see how much their co-workers earn
people that earn less than their colleagues always think that.
How would i know.. that information is not accessible to me without contravening the computer misuse act 1990

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/18/conte...

The Selfish Gene said:
that is unpopular!

Why? It would cause total carnage
Only for employers that take the piss smile
This is a very very bad idea, so I guess you've achieved the thread brief!
Works well enough in Norway

https://www.theguardian.com/money/blog/2016/apr/11...
lol, I'd have a VB script to dump the works outlook address book into the tax portal and submit a request for each person on the first day I had access.

the fact that they are all alerted to the fact that i've done that is the cherry on the cake for me hehe <shameless>

IJB1959

2,139 posts

86 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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aaron_2000 said:
IJB1959 said:
That depends on which thread/s you follow. Not all PH is just about cars.
Pretty much any thread, no matter what the subject is, turns into petty argument and laughable insults. I'd argue that next to none of it is about cars.
I'd agree with you about the petty insults, some cowardly people on PH tend to do this behind the anonymity of a keyboard. I would disagree about certain car forums though, some have been very useful to me and always on topic.

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