What are your unpopular opinions?
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Disastrous said:
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Rawwr said:
Front bottom said:
Of course, I didn't dismiss things out of hand when rational explanations were offered. I considered them, but they were very weak tbh (and I don't mean that in a rude way), but they just didn't fit what was going on in any way. They fell well short.
You dismissed mental illness pretty damn quickly. You didn't entertain the notion at all.Your own doctor doesn’t have a monopoly on your health.
djc206 said:
That certainly is an unpopular one I reckon. If you fancy staying in one place why don’t you try something like a beach holiday?
Being disabled and hobbling about, doesn't lend itself to beach holidays or any other holidays for that matter.I'd much rather sit still in one place and look at my own four walls than sit still in one place and look at somebody else's four walls but that's just me.
mp3manager said:
Being disabled and hobbling about, doesn't lend itself to beach holidays or any other holidays for that matter.
I'd much rather sit still in one place and look at my own four walls than sit still in one place and look at somebody else's four walls but that's just me.
Ah right, to each his own! I'd much rather sit still in one place and look at my own four walls than sit still in one place and look at somebody else's four walls but that's just me.
mp3manager said:
djc206 said:
That certainly is an unpopular one I reckon. If you fancy staying in one place why don’t you try something like a beach holiday?
Being disabled and hobbling about, doesn't lend itself to beach holidays or any other holidays for that matter.I'd much rather sit still in one place and look at my own four walls than sit still in one place and look at somebody else's four walls but that's just me.
Front bottom said:
I appreciate where you're coming from, but sceptics and believers are never going to agree.
sceptic and believer are not the only choices.Example: I am 100% sure there is no god, and religion is a set of rules to control simple people, from the dark ages.
That doesn't make me a sceptic does it.
The Selfish Gene said:
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I appreciate where you're coming from, but sceptics and believers are never going to agree.
sceptic and believer are not the only choices.Example: I am 100% sure there is no god, and religion is a set of rules to control simple people, from the dark ages.
That doesn't make me a sceptic does it.
Secondly current believers and others are never going to agree no... but the numbers of believers are reducing massively as time goes on. This again is religion-centric as it proposes 'the task' is for those who don't believe in this stuff to try and convert those who do. It isn't. The real task facing is the one facing religion to try and convince people that religion still has value whilst acknowledging that vastly growing numbers of people don't subscribe to the same belief system. If religion was democracy then they wouldn't have a choice, but if religion is something which wishes to survive then they need to stop going on about how evolution is made up and the earth is only 10000 years old, and that dinosaur bones are put there by God as a trap and all that
y rubbish, and start engaging with people in a modern and far less lame, elderly and non-sensical way. religion is still annoyingly embedded in 'the norm' and I am a supporter of secularism. It annoys me that we still have things like 'thought for the day' on radio 4 where religious people come and tell everyone what to think for a few minutes. It annoys me that we still have sitting church people in the house of lords. It's a hobby at best, just f
k off and do it somewhere else. Edited by Blown2CV on Monday 26th February 11:54
The Selfish Gene said:
Front bottom said:
I appreciate where you're coming from, but sceptics and believers are never going to agree.
sceptic and believer are not the only choices.Example: I am 100% sure there is no god, and religion is a set of rules to control simple people, from the dark ages.
That doesn't make me a sceptic does it.
The bit in bold I totally agree with.
Blown2CV said:
OK fair enough. What sort of things?
Well being a man of science and not much religion I still believe the vast majority of quantum mechanics will never be fully understood.I think the reason I believe this is that the perception of man is limited in time and size.
Quantum entanglement for instance .Nothing you can tell me about that makes any sense from anything I currently understand as science. Its closer to magic than science currently with very limited ways to investigate unless you can 'stop ' time.
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Disastrous said:
Front bottom said:
Rawwr said:
Front bottom said:
Of course, I didn't dismiss things out of hand when rational explanations were offered. I considered them, but they were very weak tbh (and I don't mean that in a rude way), but they just didn't fit what was going on in any way. They fell well short.
You dismissed mental illness pretty damn quickly. You didn't entertain the notion at all.Your own doctor doesn’t have a monopoly on your health.
Where I’m coming from is that your rationale for rejecting mental illness because the suggestion didn’t come from your own doctor is illogical.
Disastrous said:
On whether somebody other than your own doctor can diagnose an illness?? I don’t think that’s really up for debate tbh. It’s just a fact.
Where I’m coming from is that your rationale for rejecting mental illness because the suggestion didn’t come from your own doctor is illogical.
....But from a complete stranger on the internet instead.Where I’m coming from is that your rationale for rejecting mental illness because the suggestion didn’t come from your own doctor is illogical.
That doesn't work in anyones book imho.
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Disastrous said:
On whether somebody other than your own doctor can diagnose an illness?? I don’t think that’s really up for debate tbh. It’s just a fact.
Where I’m coming from is that your rationale for rejecting mental illness because the suggestion didn’t come from your own doctor is illogical.
....But from a complete stranger on the internet instead.Where I’m coming from is that your rationale for rejecting mental illness because the suggestion didn’t come from your own doctor is illogical.
That doesn't work in anyones book imho.
I wonder what your doctor would say if you explained to him what you’d experienced?
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Disastrous said:
On whether somebody other than your own doctor can diagnose an illness?? I don’t think that’s really up for debate tbh. It’s just a fact.
Where I’m coming from is that your rationale for rejecting mental illness because the suggestion didn’t come from your own doctor is illogical.
....But from a complete stranger on the internet instead.Where I’m coming from is that your rationale for rejecting mental illness because the suggestion didn’t come from your own doctor is illogical.
That doesn't work in anyones book imho.
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Disastrous said:
So you meant “because you’re a stranger” rather than “because you’re not my doctor”?
I wonder what your doctor would say if you explained to him what you’d experienced?
Not really. I've had plenty of digs and comments like that from people I know, but it turns out they are all afraid of the unknown, so it's a bit of a knee jerk reaction from them to accuse me of something like that when I talk freely about my experiences. They don't like the subject being touched upon.I wonder what your doctor would say if you explained to him what you’d experienced?
Your point about the doctor. Why would I go to him? I'm really quite happy with my lot tbh. It's all been very interesting.
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Disastrous said:
So you meant “because you’re a stranger” rather than “because you’re not my doctor”?
I wonder what your doctor would say if you explained to him what you’d experienced?
Not really. I've had plenty of digs and comments like that from people I know, but it turns out they are all afraid of the unknown, so it's a bit of a knee jerk reaction from them to accuse me of something like that when I talk freely about my experiences. They don't like the subject being touched upon.I wonder what your doctor would say if you explained to him what you’d experienced?
Your point about the doctor. Why would I go to him? I'm really quite happy with my lot tbh. It's all been very interesting.
Why would you go to your doctor? To check that your health is in good order. In your shoes, if I experienced something ‘unexplainable’ that I had decided was ‘the supernatural’ I would seek to eliminate other possible explanations so that I could a) feel more confident in my belief in the supernatural and b) know I wasn’t suffering from an undiagnosed ailment.
FWIW, a brain tumour scares me much more than ghosts.
Front bottom said:
Not really. I've had plenty of digs and comments like that from people I know, but it turns out they are all afraid of the unknown, so it's a bit of a knee jerk reaction from them to accuse me of something like that when I talk freely about my experiences. They don't like the subject being touched upon...
You should widen your circle of acquaintances, hanging around with people who are all afraid of the unknown is bound to have an undesirable effect.julian64 said:
Blown2CV said:
OK fair enough. What sort of things?
Well being a man of science and not much religion I still believe the vast majority of quantum mechanics will never be fully understood.I think the reason I believe this is that the perception of man is limited in time and size.
Quantum entanglement for instance .Nothing you can tell me about that makes any sense from anything I currently understand as science. Its closer to magic than science currently with very limited ways to investigate unless you can 'stop ' time.
Disastrous said:
It’s interesting that you see suggestions that your experiences might have been caused by something other than the supernatural to be ‘digs’ and that you stigmatise a temporary mental episode sufficiently that it’s something to be ‘accused of’.
Why would you go to your doctor? To check that your health is in good order. In your shoes, if I experienced something ‘unexplainable’ that I had decided was ‘the supernatural’ I would seek to eliminate other possible explanations so that I could a) feel more confident in my belief in the supernatural and b) know I wasn’t suffering from an undiagnosed ailment.
FWIW, a brain tumour scares me much more than ghosts.
Digs = banter for me. It's just the way we knock about. One mate did get quite nasty about it though, but he was pissed at the time, so I just ignored it. He was the one doing the accusing, not that it mattered. He later admitted to having a couple of experiences himself, but it was obvious he's not comfortable with that sort of thing.Why would you go to your doctor? To check that your health is in good order. In your shoes, if I experienced something ‘unexplainable’ that I had decided was ‘the supernatural’ I would seek to eliminate other possible explanations so that I could a) feel more confident in my belief in the supernatural and b) know I wasn’t suffering from an undiagnosed ailment.
FWIW, a brain tumour scares me much more than ghosts.
E34-3.2 said:
Evolution happened differently. That is what they proved.
I only studied alevel biology but you are talking crap. Evolution is not some fixed thing it is a range of things that bring about developments in animals through various divinations to the environment.The dinosaur soft tissue actually was very similar to ostrich blood, so actually backed the idea up that dinosaur weren't slow cold blooded animals as thought for a long time. There is a clear evolution line to birds we see today.
Evolution is a fact as clear as the moon on the sky.
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