What are your unpopular opinions?

What are your unpopular opinions?

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Paul_M3

2,371 posts

186 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
You comment is just another stupid comment on here, nothing unpopular. Aquaplanning is a force against standing water, tyres dissipate water to allow traction. At a certain level of standing water it doesn't matter how fast you are going the law of physics overrule. Anyway happy Xmas.
Just to be clear, are you saying that you’d still have aquaplaned at 10mph?

Bobberoo99

38,751 posts

99 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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rofl This is why I love PH, there are people on here who will argue a point for no other reason than they can, I posted a comment about aquaplaning and there are individuals who just won't accept that there are circumstances that as a human being you just can't allow for, going as far as to suggest that it's acceptable to drive on a rainy soaked motorway at 20-30mph to mitigate the possibility of aquaplaning, and before you get all pissy and announce that is not what you said it is what you intimated. I don't consider myself a particularly good driver, at most I'm competent and able to deal with most circumstances, I've been in cars with exceptional drivers, and downright scary nutters who shouldn't be on the road, but here's the kicker, when things go wrong as they will for everyone at some point, many, many things influence the outcome, time of day, conditions, condition of vehicle and tyres, the persons mood, their level of awareness, PHYSICS, ETC ETC, anybody who has the audacity to sit there and suggest that it would never happen to them is at best delusional at worst a risk to everyone around them, this is at the end of the day a motoring forum and no one can change the laws of physics a vehicle can aquaplane at any speed, take yourself on a skidpan and you'll soon realise this.

DickyC

49,833 posts

199 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Bobberoo99 said:
rofl This is why I love PH, there are people on here who will argue a point for no other reason than they can, I posted a comment about aquaplaning and there are individuals who just won't accept that there are circumstances that as a human being you just can't allow for, going as far as to suggest that it's acceptable to drive on a rainy soaked motorway at 20-30mph to mitigate the possibility of aquaplaning, and before you get all pissy and announce that is not what you said it is what you intimated. I don't consider myself a particularly good driver, at most I'm competent and able to deal with most circumstances, I've been in cars with exceptional drivers, and downright scary nutters who shouldn't be on the road, but here's the kicker, when things go wrong as they will for everyone at some point, many, many things influence the outcome, time of day, conditions, condition of vehicle and tyres, the persons mood, their level of awareness, PHYSICS, ETC ETC, anybody who has the audacity to sit there and suggest that it would never happen to them is at best delusional at worst a risk to everyone around them, this is at the end of the day a motoring forum and no one can change the laws of physics a vehicle can aquaplane at any speed, take yourself on a skidpan and you'll soon realise this.
Bobbers, Bobbers, Bobbers. It's ten past six on a Saturday. Jeez.

Bobberoo99

38,751 posts

99 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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anonymous said:
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You just can't let it go can you?

singlecoil

33,726 posts

247 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Bobberoo99 said:
anonymous said:
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You just can't let it go can you?
While I'm on your side of the argument, and know from personal experience how st can happen to even careful drivers, I'd have to say I can see no reason why midenginedcoupe should have to shut up if he disagrees.

Bobberoo99

38,751 posts

99 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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singlecoil said:
Bobberoo99 said:
anonymous said:
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You just can't let it go can you?
While I'm on your side of the argument, and know from personal experience how st can happen to even careful drivers, I'd have to say I can see no reason why midenginedcoupe should have to shut up if he disagrees.
By no means do I mean he should shut up, it's a free country and everyone has the right to free speech, it does however prove my point about people not accepting another's view, there just has to be another post with some sort of dig.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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AAGR said:
Feckless young mothers who let their noisy children treat supermarket aisles like super playgrounds.
I doubt this is unpopular enough to qualify under Thread Rule 12.3a amend C2: Opinions should be unpopular.

An easy mistake though, given that this important sub clause is hidden in Vol XI of Thread Rules at the back of the library in the East Wing and referenced only by scholars.


Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 22 December 07:17

80sMatchbox

3,891 posts

177 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Opinions can be wrong. Seems obvious but scroll around PH, social media, there's plenty of evidence of people saying otherwise.

Balmoral

40,951 posts

249 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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V6 Pushfit said:
Drink can steady the nerves when doing things that are difficult
This has been shown to be the case when studying the effects of alcohol on driving. One drink slightly slows reactions which results in better decision making and better outcomes in an emergency situation, two drinks however and it drops off a cliff edge. A low limit makes sense, a zero limit doesn't.

glenrobbo

35,303 posts

151 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Henners said:
People are always looking for a clash of opinions.
No they're not.

glenrobbo

35,303 posts

151 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Paul_M3 said:
Thesprucegoose said:
You comment is just another stupid comment on here, nothing unpopular. Aquaplanning is a force against standing water, tyres dissipate water to allow traction. At a certain level of standing water it doesn't matter how fast you are going the law of physics overrule. Anyway happy Xmas.
Just to be clear, are you saying that you’d still have aquaplaned at 10mph?
I once aquaplaned in the kitchen.

My wife had just mopped the floor and I came in unsuspectingly, and WHAP!!! I went down flat on my back in the very thin film of water.
I was travelling at probably.no more than 2 mph when it happened. Just goes to show, eh? rolleyes

It took the wind out of me, I can tell you, and I was a bit stiff for a couple of days afterwards.
Still managed to cope with the bedroom physics though. wink

Countdown

39,986 posts

197 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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glenrobbo said:
I once aquaplaned in the kitchen.

My wife had just mopped the floor and I came in unsuspectingly, and WHAP!!! I went down flat on my back in the very thin film of water.
I was travelling at probably.no more than 2 mph when it happened. Just goes to show, eh? rolleyes
You are not a car.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Balmoral said:
V6 Pushfit said:
Drink can steady the nerves when doing things that are difficult
This has been shown to be the case when studying the effects of alcohol on driving. One drink slightly slows reactions which results in better decision making and better outcomes in an emergency situation, two drinks however and it drops off a cliff edge. A low limit makes sense, a zero limit doesn't.
Can you quote the studies please? It seems counterintuitive that slower reactions are better in an emergency situation and hard to see any logic behind the statement that slower reactions result in "better decision making".

By way of rebuttal I offer:

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/21/e1/e28

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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singlecoil said:
Bobberoo99 said:
anonymous said:
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You just can't let it go can you?
While I'm on your side of the argument, and know from personal experience how st can happen to even careful drivers, I'd have to say I can see no reason why midenginedcoupe should have to shut up if he disagrees.
I think there's a difference between a driver who aquaplanes and then just says, oh well nothing I could do, and pops down the dealership for a new car and one who aquaplanes and says, I messed up, how can I improve in the future.

Countdown

39,986 posts

197 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Flibble said:
I think there's a difference between a driver who aquaplanes and then just says, oh well nothing I could do, and pops down the dealership for a new car and one who aquaplanes and says, I messed up, how can I improve in the future.
I completely agree.

When things go wrong It’s the bit in bold above that the vast majority have done, but very few will accept. They will always come up with scenarios / excuses to justify why it was something outside of their control and NOT a lack of ability on their part (perish the thought!)

Blown2CV

28,895 posts

204 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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people that lay flowers at the site where someone died are weird, and other people don't really want to see that either.

glenrobbo

35,303 posts

151 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Countdown said:
You are not a car.
You are most observant.

However at no time did I claim to be a car.

I could state "You are not a Christmas Pudding" but I really don't see the point.

Bobberoo99

38,751 posts

99 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Countdown said:
glenrobbo said:
I once aquaplaned in the kitchen.

My wife had just mopped the floor and I came in unsuspectingly, and WHAP!!! I went down flat on my back in the very thin film of water.
I was travelling at probably.no more than 2 mph when it happened. Just goes to show, eh? rolleyes
You are not a car.
  • In light of last nights activities* "Oh yes he is!!!!" hehe

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,038 posts

101 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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I aquaplaned the other night for only the second time in my driving career. Much like the first time it was my own stupid fault, and yes, poor driving. We ventured home 15 miles from Mum & Dads. Nearer them was dry, on a particular nice stretch of road, safe to get your foot down and 'travel' (A616 Newark to Ollerton way)

After travelling along there I drove in to a heavily rained on section, aware it can suffer standing water. Slowing from maybe 80 minutes earlier to about 50 it felt slow. It wasn't slow enough. At the last moment I saw some heavy standing water and it was too late to loose any further speed. I aquaplaned just as a car was passing the other way, luckily the car held straight, but it wasn't pleasant. One for the lesson book, not reading the conditions well enough, and not monitoring my speed closely enough.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Roman Rhodes said:
Balmoral said:
V6 Pushfit said:
Drink can steady the nerves when doing things that are difficult
This has been shown to be the case when studying the effects of alcohol on driving. One drink slightly slows reactions which results in better decision making and better outcomes in an emergency situation, two drinks however and it drops off a cliff edge. A low limit makes sense, a zero limit doesn't.
Can you quote the studies please? It seems counterintuitive that slower reactions are better in an emergency situation and hard to see any logic behind the statement that slower reactions result in "better decision making".

By way of rebuttal I offer:

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/21/e1/e28
Very interesting but it’s a no from me as it’s my unpopular opinion as far as I believe.
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