What are your unpopular opinions?

What are your unpopular opinions?

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DRFC1879

3,437 posts

158 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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On the dogs vs. humans topic (Anthony Moxey et al) I'd be interested to herar your view on this thought experiment:

You're walking along a cliff top with your dog, a friend and his six-year-old child. A bit of loose ground gives way and there's a landslip which leads to the friend falling half way down the cliff and breaking his leg. The dog and the child are hanging precariously. You can reach down and haul them up. The dog is scrabbling for grip, the child is looking up at you in terror. You may not have time to save both. Who or what do you reach for?

FerdiZ28

1,355 posts

135 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Fastchas said:
Most of what the human race has invented or discovered was the easy pickings, the apples hanging lowest from the tree.
We will never really invent anything major to benefit the human race regarding space travel, time travel or anti-gravity. Everything from now on will be on the back of what we've already discovered, just little advances.
That’s what they said in 1954

singlecoil

33,706 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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StevieBee said:
Linked to a post someone made a few pages back regarding the Hybrid Vigour being the beneficial outcome of inter-racial breeding, there are several theories that the breeding across races will become increasingly profound to a point where there will be a common skin colour.
"Take a pinch of white man
Wrap him up in black skin
Add a touch of blue blood
And a little bitty bit of red Indian boy
Oh like a Curly Latin kinkies
Oh Lordy, Lordy, mixed with yellow ees, yeah
You know you lump it all together
And you got a recipe for a get along scene
Oh what a beautiful dream"

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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DRFC1879 said:
On the dogs vs. humans topic (Anthony Moxey et al) I'd be interested to herar your view on this thought experiment:

You're walking along a cliff top with your dog, a friend and his six-year-old child. A bit of loose ground gives way and there's a landslip which leads to the friend falling half way down the cliff and breaking his leg. The dog and the child are hanging precariously. You can reach down and haul them up. The dog is scrabbling for grip, the child is looking up at you in terror. You may not have time to save both. Who or what do you reach for?
As written, it sounds to me like the dog has a much higher risk of falling in the next few seconds. Is that intentional?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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DRFC1879 said:
On the dogs vs. humans topic (Anthony Moxey et al) I'd be interested to herar your view on this thought experiment:

You're walking along a cliff top with your dog, a friend and his six-year-old child. A bit of loose ground gives way and there's a landslip which leads to the friend falling half way down the cliff and breaking his leg. The dog and the child are hanging precariously. You can reach down and haul them up. The dog is scrabbling for grip, the child is looking up at you in terror. You may not have time to save both. Who or what do you reach for?
Its much harder to replace a good hound than it is for a mate to knock out another kid.

So Dog for me every time.

FiF

44,144 posts

252 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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amusingduck said:
DRFC1879 said:
On the dogs vs. humans topic (Anthony Moxey et al) I'd be interested to herar your view on this thought experiment:

You're walking along a cliff top with your dog, a friend and his six-year-old child. A bit of loose ground gives way and there's a landslip which leads to the friend falling half way down the cliff and breaking his leg. The dog and the child are hanging precariously. You can reach down and haul them up. The dog is scrabbling for grip, the child is looking up at you in terror. You may not have time to save both. Who or what do you reach for?
As written, it sounds to me like the dog has a much higher risk of falling in the next few seconds. Is that intentional?
The child, obviously, even though it's not your child. The dog can fend for itself, it's got 4 wheel drive and claws. Once you've got the child secure, then you call for help for the friend, the dog still fending for itself. If at that point there is an opportunity to rescue the dog without significant personal risk then you have a go, but remembering lots of people get into difficulty trying to rescue dogs that then have the privilege of watching their owner's demise having self rescued.

Spoken as a dog owner that knows ours can easily get up steep banks and cliffs that I have zero chance of climbing without outside assistance, eg a secured rope being one possibility.

DRFC1879

3,437 posts

158 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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amusingduck said:
As written, it sounds to me like the dog has a much higher risk of falling in the next few seconds. Is that intentional?
No, not intentional just not particularly well-written I suppose! They both run the risk of losing grip and falling imminently.

FWIW I expect some people would write that they'd save the dog to stick to their guns in the argument but would save the child in reality. Which opens up a whole other debate about the polarity of online opinion and why people behave the way they do on the internet but I'm not going there!

Jaroon

1,441 posts

161 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Integroo said:
Jaroon said:
Bright Halo said:
The NHS is a fantastic thing and the envy of the world. Aniran Bevan was a visionary genius!
With increasing and longer lived population combined with scientific discoveries producing more and more expensive advanced treatments society cannot possibly continue to afford it.
The only way forward is for it to be means tested. Those who can afford to pay should. Changing world, changing rules.
With respect prevailing benefits/self entitled culture including the NHS is the bane of modern UK society. The obese, smokers, alcohol/drug abusers should pay for treatment and review their lifestyle choices. Hard workers are not working hard to prop up professional doleites, multi child families that can not afford their off spring without state hand outs and other Daily Mail type wailing that I have some sympathy with. Privatize the NHS.

The Daily Mail is no worse than any other fear mongering rag.
Yes, and if they cannot afford to do so, we should let them die on the streets.

Oh, and hard-working, working class (or middle class) families who have the misfortune of breaking a leg, or getting a life threatening disease, or whatever, should become bankrupt for their misfortune.

You are wrongly equating hard work to wealth.
Point taken but what I want to do is equate hard work to not working/over eating/ over drinking/feckless child production, as a choice and hard workers footing the bill. Should we let them die in the streets? Well if they knew that was the alternative do you think they'd make the same choices or knowing they'll be looked after regardless why bother?

Working/middle class families need not be bankrupt by a health problem if they paid some sort of insurance, nationally...oh.

EDIT; Point not taken actually, I never mentioned wealth, that was you. For Hard workers you can read tax payer vs. non tax payer or person who costs the tax payer a disproportionate amount through their life style choices. The fact other virtue signalers have agreed with you about a point I didn't make suggests the number of potential audience members on Question Time is higher than I previously feared. Me being too polite again.

Edited by Jaroon on Tuesday 23 January 14:31

Sycamore

1,796 posts

119 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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TameRacingDriver said:
Integroo said:
You are wrongly equating hard work to wealth.
Which is something that is rife on pistonheads. I wish I had a pound for every time someone offered the solution to not being able to afford something, as "work harder". If only it were that simple...

In fact, possibly one for this thread: "Working harder is no guarantee of success or make you richer".

Edited by TameRacingDriver on Tuesday 23 January 11:19
I agree with this. I don't work necessarily hard, but just got a 30% pay increase putting me even higher above the salaries of same-aged friends who work their arses off doing the same job.

Sure, working harder is more likely to yield more wealth, but "just work harder" is a bullst reasoning people use.


Unpopular opinion of my own, kids are vile creatures and people who choose to have them are weird.
I like dogs though hehe

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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I really couldn't give a toss about all the climate green ste.

Roofless Toothless

5,678 posts

133 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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DRFC1879 said:
On the dogs vs. humans topic (Anthony Moxey et al) I'd be interested to herar your view on this thought experiment:

You're walking along a cliff top with your dog, a friend and his six-year-old child. A bit of loose ground gives way and there's a landslip which leads to the friend falling half way down the cliff and breaking his leg. The dog and the child are hanging precariously. You can reach down and haul them up. The dog is scrabbling for grip, the child is looking up at you in terror. You may not have time to save both. Who or what do you reach for?
The friend's wife?

Fastchas

2,649 posts

122 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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FerdiZ28 said:
Fastchas said:
Most of what the human race has invented or discovered was the easy pickings, the apples hanging lowest from the tree.
We will never really invent anything major to benefit the human race regarding space travel, time travel or anti-gravity. Everything from now on will be on the back of what we've already discovered, just little advances.
That’s what they said in 1954
What was so quoted in 1954? Going for the moon?
If so,as magnificient an achievement it was in 1969 that was an 'apple'. The real big strides will be how to get to other planets or galaxies. Something that will need a major invention or discovery other than blasts of air as propulsion.

Too Drunk to Funk

804 posts

78 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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singlecoil said:
Too Drunk to Funk said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Karma doesn't exist. You make your own luck in life. A term normally banded about by abject failures.
What utter bks. How exactly do I get the Goverment to reroute HS2 a few miles away from my Dad's house?
I agree. But if someone who holds Fermit's opinion could demonstrate it by being very, very rich then I might change my mind.
Yes, and "making your own luck" sounds like a phrase an estate agent or car salesman may use.

FerdiZ28

1,355 posts

135 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Fastchas said:
What was so quoted in 1954? Going for the moon?
If so,as magnificient an achievement it was in 1969 that was an 'apple'. The real big strides will be how to get to other planets or galaxies. Something that will need a major invention or discovery other than blasts of air as propulsion.
You are Karl Pilkington and I claim my fiver.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Speed 3 said:
IJB1959 said:
The Royal Family should be exiled. They are irrelevant in the 21st century and a waste of taxpayers money which could be spent on something much more worthwhile.
You should check out Micky Flanagan's "Thinking Aloud" series, he made this exact point and I felt myself yes vigorously
Except that the crown is overall a net contributor to the economy. Could we get rid of all the smellier non-contributors who take up valuable council housing stock first, please?

Fastpedeller

3,875 posts

147 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Most politicians are just self-serving and not interested in the people they represent.
Most ground-breaking innovations (be they in engineering or medicine) come not from those highly trained in their field, but from the self-trained who think 'off at a tangent' - years of 'identical training' doesn't lead to ground breaking ideas.
We'll never bring those responsible for the Grenfell Fire to justice - It will be batted around for years

joshcowin

6,812 posts

177 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Integroo said:
What, because the politicians are not all like you?

If they were, it wouldn't be representative . . .
No, therefore making your second point, pointless, I am not an imbecile.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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DRFC1879 said:
No, not intentional just not particularly well-written I suppose! They both run the risk of losing grip and falling imminently.

FWIW I expect some people would write that they'd save the dog to stick to their guns in the argument but would save the child in reality. Which opens up a whole other debate about the polarity of online opinion and why people behave the way they do on the internet but I'm not going there!
I answered dog the first time I read it, now I think my answer would be: it depends which mate I apply the scenario to.

Of the 5 friends I know who have produced a kid, to be brutally honest i would only save one of them over a dog, the other four not a chance.


BeastieBoy73

651 posts

113 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Cats are vermin.

If you are the sort of person that allows a cat to roam around the streets, scavenging through bins and be 'enjoyed' by other cats all day only for it to return home for food, crap in a tray in your kitchen, walk about on your kitchen worktops and then settle down for a good nights kip on your pillow, you need to have a firm word with yourself.

Hateful things, as are their owners who think that this is reasonable...

Filton-flyer

352 posts

88 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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BeastieBoy73 said:
Cats are vermin.

If you are the sort of person that allows a cat to roam around the streets, scavenging through bins and be 'enjoyed' by other cats all day only for it to return home for food, crap in a tray in your kitchen, walk about on your kitchen worktops and then settle down for a good nights kip on your pillow, you need to have a firm word with yourself.

Hateful things, as are their owners who think that this is reasonable...
So..... not a cat fan then?
Ironic name given the subject matter BTW.
I however, am in total agreement! clap
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