What are your unpopular opinions?

What are your unpopular opinions?

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Johnspex

4,343 posts

185 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Blown2CV said:
Sorry for the Brexit post but my opinion is: virtually no member of the public who is saying this brexit deal is bad would be able to explain if asked what is bad about it and why. i fking hate politics, but this whole thing has made me also hate the electorate.

I have another: if this deal is bad, it's absolutely stupid to make it a party-political issue. No other party can prove they could have done any better, or said how they would have circumvented issues in negotiation... the only opposition voices are blah blah blah tories, blah blah blah bad deal... can i be prime minister now? and yet people think this disheveled on the other side is somehow better? He has nothing.
Absolutely right.

Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Johnspex said:
Blown2CV said:
Sorry for the Brexit post but my opinion is: virtually no member of the public who is saying this brexit deal is bad would be able to explain if asked what is bad about it and why. i fking hate politics, but this whole thing has made me also hate the electorate.

I have another: if this deal is bad, it's absolutely stupid to make it a party-political issue. No other party can prove they could have done any better, or said how they would have circumvented issues in negotiation... the only opposition voices are blah blah blah tories, blah blah blah bad deal... can i be prime minister now? and yet people think this disheveled on the other side is somehow better? He has nothing.
Absolutely right.
I’m with you on this John.

Johnspex

4,343 posts

185 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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227bhp said:
That Steve Wright, Ken Bruce and Jeremy Vine don't do a bad job on R2.

getmecoat
Steve Wright is just about tolerable apart from singing over the end of songs.

Ken Bruce is like a sub-Terry Wogan , all self-deprecating jokes and idiot fans.

Jeremy Vine always sounds slightly out of his depth like he doesn't quite understand any subject being discussed. Like somebody else on here said 'sack them all and have 24 hour Johnny Walker'.

Get rid of all the personality presenters, Michael Ball, Elaine Page, et al.

Edited by Johnspex on Tuesday 15th January 23:51

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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RATATTAK said:
Diane Abbott would make a good Home Secretary
A secretary that stays at home? Possibly.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Blown2CV said:
Sorry for the Brexit post but my opinion is: virtually no member of the public who is saying this brexit deal is bad would be able to explain if asked what is bad about it and why. i fking hate politics, but this whole thing has made me also hate the electorate.

I have another: if this deal is bad, it's absolutely stupid to make it a party-political issue. No other party can prove they could have done any better, or said how they would have circumvented issues in negotiation... the only opposition voices are blah blah blah tories, blah blah blah bad deal... can i be prime minister now? and yet people think this disheveled on the other side is somehow better? He has nothing.
Bang on! Labour have nothing to put on the table. Corbyn is just a hollow policied buffoon smug with the governments setbacks when he would fall at the first hurdle if he had to do Brexit himself.

jimPH

Original Poster:

3,981 posts

81 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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This brexit debacle is the best thing on TV at the moment. It's been fascinating to watch and interesting. Hope we get plenty more twists and turns over the next few weeks.

Bobberoo99

38,712 posts

99 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Blown2CV said:
Sorry for the Brexit post but my opinion is: virtually no member of the public who is saying this brexit deal is bad would be able to explain if asked what is bad about it and why. i fking hate politics, but this whole thing has made me also hate the electorate.

I have another: if this deal is bad, it's absolutely stupid to make it a party-political issue. No other party can prove they could have done any better, or said how they would have circumvented issues in negotiation... the only opposition voices are blah blah blah tories, blah blah blah bad deal... can i be prime minister now? and yet people think this disheveled on the other side is somehow better? He has nothing.
Well I never thought I'd see the day when we agreed on something, top post and well summed up sir!!

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

174 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Blown2CV said:
Sorry for the Brexit post but my opinion is: virtually no member of the public who is saying this brexit deal is bad would be able to explain if asked what is bad about it and why.
It is because the whole fking idea of Brexit is completely stupid and an issue this complex should never have been trusted to a race as dense as the British proletariat.

singlecoil

33,686 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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berlintaxi said:
Blown2CV said:
Sorry for the Brexit post but my opinion is: virtually no member of the public who is saying this brexit deal is bad would be able to explain if asked what is bad about it and why.
It is because the whole fking idea of Brexit is completely stupid and an issue this complex should never have been trusted to a race as dense as the British proletariat.
Do you think that you personally would have been clever enough to have been entrusted with the issue?

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

174 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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singlecoil said:
berlintaxi said:
Blown2CV said:
Sorry for the Brexit post but my opinion is: virtually no member of the public who is saying this brexit deal is bad would be able to explain if asked what is bad about it and why.
It is because the whole fking idea of Brexit is completely stupid and an issue this complex should never have been trusted to a race as dense as the British proletariat.
Do you think that you personally would have been clever enough to have been entrusted with the issue?
Certainly not, however, I would presume that the Government would have enough knowledge and access to knowledgeable people that they could make the decision of what is in the best interest of the population, surely that is their function.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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DoubleD said:
singlecoil said:
DoubleD said:
All apart from ladies beach volleyball though!
There should be a LOT more ladies sport on television. Hockey, football, cricket etc.

But no tennis.
I agree. Im a feminist at heart. The way the ladies dive off a high board into a pool is far more watchable than the mens.
Women's wrestling is infinitely more watchable than mens yes

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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berlintaxi said:
singlecoil said:
berlintaxi said:
Blown2CV said:
Sorry for the Brexit post but my opinion is: virtually no member of the public who is saying this brexit deal is bad would be able to explain if asked what is bad about it and why.
It is because the whole fking idea of Brexit is completely stupid and an issue this complex should never have been trusted to a race as dense as the British proletariat.
Do you think that you personally would have been clever enough to have been entrusted with the issue?
Certainly not, however, I would presume that the Government would have enough knowledge and access to knowledgeable people that they could make the decision of what is in the best interest of the population, surely that is their function.
You do realise it's the government that voted to have a referendum, and then to implement it?

This is the problem with this view of 'the govt knows best so it's OK for them to ignore the public'. Sooner or later you'll find yourself on the wrong side of the fence being on e of those the govt are ignoring. That's why we have an arrangement called democracy. No country has ever failed through being too democratic, but once those in power think they know best the country tends to collapse.

singlecoil

33,686 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Dr Jekyll said:
berlintaxi said:
singlecoil said:
berlintaxi said:
Blown2CV said:
Sorry for the Brexit post but my opinion is: virtually no member of the public who is saying this brexit deal is bad would be able to explain if asked what is bad about it and why.
It is because the whole fking idea of Brexit is completely stupid and an issue this complex should never have been trusted to a race as dense as the British proletariat.
Do you think that you personally would have been clever enough to have been entrusted with the issue?
Certainly not, however, I would presume that the Government would have enough knowledge and access to knowledgeable people that they could make the decision of what is in the best interest of the population, surely that is their function.
You do realise it's the government that voted to have a referendum, and then to implement it?

This is the problem with this view of 'the govt knows best so it's OK for them to ignore the public'. Sooner or later you'll find yourself on the wrong side of the fence being on e of those the govt are ignoring. That's why we have an arrangement called democracy. No country has ever failed through being too democratic, but once those in power think they know best the country tends to collapse.
Excellent reply. I'll only add this, that there isn't a right answer to the Brexit question and therefore the intelligence and/or knowledge of the people the question is put to is irrelevant.

Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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berlintaxi said:
It is because the whole fking idea of Brexit is completely stupid and an issue this complex should never have been trusted to a race as dense as the British proletariat.
You may say that, I couldn’t possibly comment.

j_4m

1,574 posts

65 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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berlintaxi said:
Certainly not, however, I would presume that the Government would have enough knowledge and access to knowledgeable people that they could make the decision of what is in the best interest of the population, surely that is their function.
rofl


Oh... you're being serious?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,403 posts

151 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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The most sensible thing anyone has said on Brexit was said by Ricky Gervais:

We had a referendum, on an incredibly complex issue, in a country where we still write on bottles of bleach...DO NOT DRINK.
We never should have had a referendum on something so complicated, but if we had to have one, we should have taken the warnings off the bleach....for 2 years....and then had it.

singlecoil

33,686 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Drama series featuring serial murders are st. They exist because for the writer/s they are ideal, a new killing every episode, and no need to show the motivation of the killer (because insane).

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Frank7 said:
berlintaxi said:
It is because the whole fking idea of Brexit is completely stupid and an issue this complex should never have been trusted to a race as dense as the British proletariat.
You may say that, I couldn’t possibly comment.
Well thank goodness for Gina Miller. If she hadn't been around to insist on any deal going to a House of Commons vote first we'd never be looking at a no deal exit scenario by default. Hurrah... jester

Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

151 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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singlecoil said:
Drama series featuring serial murders are st. They exist because for the writer/s they are ideal, a new killing every episode, and no need to show the motivation of the killer (because insane).
Not as st as film franchises featuring serial killers. Especially when the scriptwriters try to re-imagine, say, Hannibal Lecter as going from the most terrifying human who ever lived to some wronged, tortured soul bordering on a superhero who only ever ate bad people that really deserved it rolleyes

Roger Irrelevant

2,943 posts

114 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Schmed said:
Frank7 said:
berlintaxi said:
It is because the whole fking idea of Brexit is completely stupid and an issue this complex should never have been trusted to a race as dense as the British proletariat.
You may say that, I couldn’t possibly comment.
Well thank goodness for Gina Miller. If she hadn't been around to insist on any deal going to a House of Commons vote first we'd never be looking at a no deal exit scenario by default. Hurrah... jester
Not sure I follow...as soon as the govt triggered art. 50, which Brexiters were baying for, 'no deal' was the default. When they stupidly triggered it without first seeking any sort on consensus even within govt as to what sort of withdrawal deal would be acceptable (and which they wanted to be able to do without reference to parliament, which is what the Miller case was actually about), 'no deal' became all the more likely.
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