What are your unpopular opinions?
Discussion
alock said:
anonymous said:
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Minimum wage * 37.5 hours/week * 20 = ~£300k/yearDo we start by cutting the pay of every tax funded person who is paid above this value?
The BBC and National Rail will be the first to object.
I absolutely agree we need to come down hard on tax evasion at the top (won't happen because many politicians are the high level tax evaders) but limiting high end salaries is a feel good move that is ultimately pointless.
anonymous said:
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everyone is allowed to discuss anything they want. Anyone is free to make comment and ridicule an opinion if they wish too. I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
Blown2CV said:
everyone is allowed to discuss anything they want. Anyone is free to make comment and ridicule an opinion if they wish too.
I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
Aye cash business but, innit.I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
Doesn't count. Not like those rich s...
Tired said:
Blown2CV said:
everyone is allowed to discuss anything they want. Anyone is free to make comment and ridicule an opinion if they wish too.
I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
Aye cash business but, innit.I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
Doesn't count. Not like those rich s...
Blown2CV said:
everyone is allowed to discuss anything they want. Anyone is free to make comment and ridicule an opinion if they wish too.
I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
You’re not implying people doing cash in hand work don’t declare their earning to HMRC are you? I can’t believe a builder/(insert other trade here) with the ‘coming over here, living off our taxes’ mentality does any undeclared work!I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
anonymous said:
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they don't 'argue for it', but they do often bring a fkload of employment and other revenue to the exchequer and so end up with breaks on other things. I'd much rather we use economics too, look at the overall whole and use actual facts rather than just ALL RICH PEOPLE ARE S. which seems to be what you're saying (and is often said by thickos who don't get it).
slipstream 1985 said:
"poor" peoples solution is always to award themselves more money for doing nothing extra.
And other myths you like to believe because they make you fee superior about being mediocre. It ignores all the people who work hard at minimum or low wage jobs, yet are still poor. What most poor people want is access to training and better employment opportunities.
If anything, I find it's the middle class that are the biggest bunch of lazy whingers. They're born into a nice house in a nice neighbourhood. Get a decent education (paid for mainly by the state), then get given good jobs because of it. When they pop out a sprog, they're the first to go hand outstretched to the government for assistance.
Killing every welfare programme for the poor will save us the square root of fk all.
However it's easier to demonise a Daily Express view of the poor... without realising that that is a stereotype that does not represent the overwhelming majority of poor people at all.
toppstuff said:
Countdown said:
Just because a restaurant serves food which is “locally sourced” doesn’t mean it’s actually any better than food which has been sourced from 24,000 miles away.
Depends by what you mean by "better".For me, it is much better because I want to always support local produce wherever possible and I'm picky about what I eat these days.
I love food, and I love supporting local producers. While it might not taste appreciably better than lamb from NZ, it makes me happier to eat lamb that was sourced from 10min down the road.
bristolbaron said:
Blown2CV said:
everyone is allowed to discuss anything they want. Anyone is free to make comment and ridicule an opinion if they wish too.
I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
You’re not implying people doing cash in hand work don’t declare their earning to HMRC are you? I can’t believe a builder/(insert other trade here) with the ‘coming over here, living off our taxes’ mentality does any undeclared work!I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
C70R said:
bristolbaron said:
Blown2CV said:
everyone is allowed to discuss anything they want. Anyone is free to make comment and ridicule an opinion if they wish too.
I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
You’re not implying people doing cash in hand work don’t declare their earning to HMRC are you? I can’t believe a builder/(insert other trade here) with the ‘coming over here, living off our taxes’ mentality does any undeclared work!I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
Blown2CV said:
C70R said:
bristolbaron said:
Blown2CV said:
everyone is allowed to discuss anything they want. Anyone is free to make comment and ridicule an opinion if they wish too.
I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
You’re not implying people doing cash in hand work don’t declare their earning to HMRC are you? I can’t believe a builder/(insert other trade here) with the ‘coming over here, living off our taxes’ mentality does any undeclared work!I think everyone needs to pay more tax, personally. However people need to understand that a greater tax revenue would be brought from lower income brackets than from higher, due to the sheer numbers of people, if everyone paid their way of course.
I am not defending tax avoidance/evasion, and personally I pay a lot of tax, but there are plenty of self-employed etc at the lower end of the income scale fiddling tax as well as any more wealthy people doing the same, and that way it has always been.
takes a seat on the sideline, awaits developments, if any.
captain_cynic said:
slipstream 1985 said:
"poor" peoples solution is always to award themselves more money for doing nothing extra.
And other myths you like to believe because they make you fee superior about being mediocre. It ignores all the people who work hard at minimum or low wage jobs, yet are still poor. What most poor people want is access to training and better employment opportunities.
If anything, I find it's the middle class that are the biggest bunch of lazy whingers. They're born into a nice house in a nice neighbourhood. Get a decent education (paid for mainly by the state), then get given good jobs because of it. When they pop out a sprog, they're the first to go hand outstretched to the government for assistance.
Killing every welfare programme for the poor will save us the square root of fk all.
However it's easier to demonise a Daily Express view of the poor... without realising that that is a stereotype that does not represent the overwhelming majority of poor people at all.
Denigrating the poor as malevolent scroungers is far from reality and suggests a bias borne from the worst tawdry red tops. In my experience a few are but most aren't, and we can say that about the rich or the tall or the blonde or any other way you want to slice society.
Things exist in plain sight every day that show you how and why exact equality cannot nor will not exist; Internet companies, composers of classical music, Vloggers, PhD students, authors, in fact almost any human endeavour presents inequalities. It is described well in Price's Law and is evident everywhere you look and when you think about it, makes sense, if not 'justice'. The truth is that the rich should not get too far from the poor and the poor should not consume the host. Either leads inevitably to catastrophe for all.
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