What are your unpopular opinions?
Discussion
48Valves said:
Integroo said:
48Valves said:
A fair tax system would be one where everybody pays the same % rate.
That would be an unfair and regressive tax system.Then f
k off the ridiculously expensive unnecessary (at that point) HMRC - use the billion or so quid a year it costs to run that ridiculous organisation to run the NHS, buy more police and nurses.No complex rules - means no avoidance.
48Valves said:
Integroo said:
48Valves said:
A fair tax system would be one where everybody pays the same % rate.
That would be an unfair and regressive tax system.The first individual then pays their mortgage (£500), bills etc (£500), food (£200), at a basic level. They have £400 left in disposable income. The second individual spends more on all of these things, to live a better quality of life, but not ten times more. Let's say their mortgage is £1500, their bills £750, and their food £500. Remaining disposable income is £16450. 41 times that of the first individual, despite having a salary of only 10 times more.
So, those with the broadest shoulders beyond basic living expenses, should bear the biggest burden to support our society.
Plus, progressive taxes serve a function in promoting income equality, amongst other things. They are distributive of wealth, which is a good thing.
RacerMDR said:
48Valves said:
Integroo said:
48Valves said:
A fair tax system would be one where everybody pays the same % rate.
That would be an unfair and regressive tax system.Then f
k off the ridiculously expensive unnecessary (at that point) HMRC - use the billion or so quid a year it costs to run that ridiculous organisation to run the NHS, buy more police and nurses.No complex rules - means no avoidance.
Plus see my post above.
Integroo said:
It really isn't that simple. Quite evidently, not everyone lives a nice simple life of earning a salary where a portion of that can just be deducted and send to the Government.
Plus see my post above.
oh agreed - (I run a company, dividends etc myself)Plus see my post above.
My point is - it 'could' be that simple...........................for income tax. Granted you couldn't completely bin off HMRC, but you surely could reduce it!
Nanook said:
Integroo said:
Those with the broadest shoulders should bear the biggest burden. It may, on a basic level, seem fair to say that everyone pays an equal percentage. However, take the example of an individual who earns £24k a year and an individual who earns £240k a year. That is, £2k per month vs £24k per month. If you then say that both pay 20%, the first individuals salary is down to £1600 per month and the seconds is down to £19200 per month.
The first individual then pays their mortgage (£500), bills etc (£500), food (£200), at a basic level. They have £400 left in disposable income. The second individual spends more on all of these things, to live a better quality of life, but not ten times more. Let's say their mortgage is £1500, their bills £750, and their food £500. Remaining disposable income is £16450. 41 times that of the first individual, despite having a salary of only 10 times more.
So, those with the broadest shoulders beyond basic living expenses, should bear the biggest burden to support our society.
Plus, progressive taxes serve a function in promoting income equality, amongst other things. They are distributive of wealth, which is a good thing.
Well, you're certainly posting in the correct thread!The first individual then pays their mortgage (£500), bills etc (£500), food (£200), at a basic level. They have £400 left in disposable income. The second individual spends more on all of these things, to live a better quality of life, but not ten times more. Let's say their mortgage is £1500, their bills £750, and their food £500. Remaining disposable income is £16450. 41 times that of the first individual, despite having a salary of only 10 times more.
So, those with the broadest shoulders beyond basic living expenses, should bear the biggest burden to support our society.
Plus, progressive taxes serve a function in promoting income equality, amongst other things. They are distributive of wealth, which is a good thing.
granted taking out things like Police, Firepeople, Nurses etc - they should all earn 100k+ minimum - and shouldn't be taxed at all.
Brave Fart said:
Antony Moxey said:
DurianIceCream said:
Antony Moxey said:
As it is, I suspect I’d assess the situation to see which was easiest to get to - the last thing I’m going to do is fall off myself and get myself killed, however all things being equal I’d probably still save my dog. I can live with a friend not being a friend any more if his child pegged it because I didn’t save him.
Quoted for posterity. Come on, Antony, you don't really mean what you wrote, do you? You're just being provocative, are you not?
People who don't like dogs are either OCD cleanliness freaks (eewww an animal) or scared of them. Lack of empathy and the drive to bond with a dog means they have a bit missing from their personality like a psychopath, and as such are psychopaths, ergo should be lined up against a wall and shot, just to be sure.
Then made into dog food.
Then made into dog food.
DRFC1879 said:
I don't think that's an unpopular view.
I get the need for them in London/Home Counties where property prices are way beyond the means of people essential to a functioning society e.g. nurses, teachers et al but the requirement for a street full of four-bed detached homes to have a few housing association type properties bunged down one end in my neck of the woods is completely unwarranted.
It's no coincidence that every time there's a police car on our road it's down that end dealing with the egg-stained vest wearing, super-strength lager-swilling, crap-tattooed, weeknight music-blaring, heavy smoking, overgrown-garden-dwelling chavs inhabiting the housing association properties.
I have watched this happen in my estate I bought one of the first houses in a new build estate so have watched the rest get built it's interesting that as the affordable home lot have moved in everyone else who originally bought have moved out I'm one of 3 of the originals who haven't sold up and that's only because I'm building something else and have to wait. What was a very nice estate is not such a nice place to live anymore. I get the need for them in London/Home Counties where property prices are way beyond the means of people essential to a functioning society e.g. nurses, teachers et al but the requirement for a street full of four-bed detached homes to have a few housing association type properties bunged down one end in my neck of the woods is completely unwarranted.
It's no coincidence that every time there's a police car on our road it's down that end dealing with the egg-stained vest wearing, super-strength lager-swilling, crap-tattooed, weeknight music-blaring, heavy smoking, overgrown-garden-dwelling chavs inhabiting the housing association properties.
The system just doesn't work.
ntiz said:
DRFC1879 said:
I don't think that's an unpopular view.
I get the need for them in London/Home Counties where property prices are way beyond the means of people essential to a functioning society e.g. nurses, teachers et al but the requirement for a street full of four-bed detached homes to have a few housing association type properties bunged down one end in my neck of the woods is completely unwarranted.
It's no coincidence that every time there's a police car on our road it's down that end dealing with the egg-stained vest wearing, super-strength lager-swilling, crap-tattooed, weeknight music-blaring, heavy smoking, overgrown-garden-dwelling chavs inhabiting the housing association properties.
I have watched this happen in my estate I bought one of the first houses in a new build estate so have watched the rest get built it's interesting that as the affordable home lot have moved in everyone else who originally bought have moved out I'm one of 3 of the originals who haven't sold up and that's only because I'm building something else and have to wait. What was a very nice estate is not such a nice place to live anymore. I get the need for them in London/Home Counties where property prices are way beyond the means of people essential to a functioning society e.g. nurses, teachers et al but the requirement for a street full of four-bed detached homes to have a few housing association type properties bunged down one end in my neck of the woods is completely unwarranted.
It's no coincidence that every time there's a police car on our road it's down that end dealing with the egg-stained vest wearing, super-strength lager-swilling, crap-tattooed, weeknight music-blaring, heavy smoking, overgrown-garden-dwelling chavs inhabiting the housing association properties.
The system just doesn't work.
I suspect what they have done is given the council some money to spend on housing elsewhere in the borough and will just recoup that by charging even more for the flats themselves which they can do because of Help to Buy. Very convenient.
Edited by kingston12 on Wednesday 24th January 14:20
Electronicpants said:
People who don't like dogs are either OCD cleanliness freaks (eewww an animal) or scared of them. Lack of empathy and the drive to bond with a dog means they have a bit missing from their personality like a psychopath, and as such are psychopaths, ergo should be lined up against a wall and shot, just to be sure.
Then made into dog food.
Then made into dog food.
Antony Moxey said:
I thought the thread was about unpopular opinions - mine is that I consider my dog more important to me than i do most humans. If that makes me a fool, well, so what, I won't lose sleep over it.
I've not met a human yet that I liked more than most dogs. So I'm with you.ntiz said:
DRFC1879 said:
I don't think that's an unpopular view.
I get the need for them in London/Home Counties where property prices are way beyond the means of people essential to a functioning society e.g. nurses, teachers et al but the requirement for a street full of four-bed detached homes to have a few housing association type properties bunged down one end in my neck of the woods is completely unwarranted.
It's no coincidence that every time there's a police car on our road it's down that end dealing with the egg-stained vest wearing, super-strength lager-swilling, crap-tattooed, weeknight music-blaring, heavy smoking, overgrown-garden-dwelling chavs inhabiting the housing association properties.
I have watched this happen in my estate I bought one of the first houses in a new build estate so have watched the rest get built it's interesting that as the affordable home lot have moved in everyone else who originally bought have moved out I'm one of 3 of the originals who haven't sold up and that's only because I'm building something else and have to wait. What was a very nice estate is not such a nice place to live anymore. I get the need for them in London/Home Counties where property prices are way beyond the means of people essential to a functioning society e.g. nurses, teachers et al but the requirement for a street full of four-bed detached homes to have a few housing association type properties bunged down one end in my neck of the woods is completely unwarranted.
It's no coincidence that every time there's a police car on our road it's down that end dealing with the egg-stained vest wearing, super-strength lager-swilling, crap-tattooed, weeknight music-blaring, heavy smoking, overgrown-garden-dwelling chavs inhabiting the housing association properties.
The system just doesn't work.
The rest of the street is great though. We all get on well and have plenty of social events e.g. street party in the Summer, kids' Xmas party, Adults' Xmas meal out, bonfire night club together for fireworks and utilise someone's house for food & drinks etc. It's good to have a proper community spirit which is too rare these days.
Johnspex said:
Queen, Genesis Michael Jackson and Van Morison are all vastly over-rated by people with no personal taste in music whatsoever. They are just popular with those who find it easier to go with the flow than to choose their own particular favourite. Or, worse, in Van Morison's case, liked by middle class, middle aged, trendy Guardian readers.
I am well over middle age.
Some of the later stuff, maybe, but Queen II and Brighton Rock surely have to be two of the finest albums ever made...I am well over middle age.
On a more serious note, my most unpopular opinion seems to be that the whole Brexit debate is a complete and utter waste of f
king time, that came about simply because successive governments used the EU as an excuse for not taking the difficult decisions that needed to be taken in this country, and they're still doing so now.I don't care whether you're a Brexiteer or a Remainer... You're both arguing over the placement of the deckchairs on the Titanic.
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