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Can't believe some of the P*** taking on this thread...
"Race boots" have a time and a place I think. I work as an Instructor and spend equal amounts of time in the driving seat, passenger seat & stood/walking. I tend to stick with Puma Speed/Drift/Futurecats in the most plain colour combinations possible, inexpensive, comfortable & small enough for even the tightest pedal box. That said, even in single seaters I've never had much of an issue in converse or formal shoes/chelsea boots.
"Race boots" have a time and a place I think. I work as an Instructor and spend equal amounts of time in the driving seat, passenger seat & stood/walking. I tend to stick with Puma Speed/Drift/Futurecats in the most plain colour combinations possible, inexpensive, comfortable & small enough for even the tightest pedal box. That said, even in single seaters I've never had much of an issue in converse or formal shoes/chelsea boots.
TAHodgson said:
Can't believe some of the P*** taking on this thread...
"Race boots" have a time and a place I think. I work as an Instructor and spend equal amounts of time in the driving seat, passenger seat & stood/walking. I tend to stick with Puma Speed/Drift/Futurecats in the most plain colour combinations possible, inexpensive, comfortable & small enough for even the tightest pedal box. That said, even in single seaters I've never had much of an issue in converse or formal shoes/chelsea boots.
Really? You really can't believe some of the piss-taking?"Race boots" have a time and a place I think. I work as an Instructor and spend equal amounts of time in the driving seat, passenger seat & stood/walking. I tend to stick with Puma Speed/Drift/Futurecats in the most plain colour combinations possible, inexpensive, comfortable & small enough for even the tightest pedal box. That said, even in single seaters I've never had much of an issue in converse or formal shoes/chelsea boots.
It's like asking which walking boots do I need to wear on my stroll to the shops. If you want to wear them, feel free. But they're completely unnecessary for the task in hand.
deckster said:
It's like asking which walking boots do I need to wear on my stroll to the shops. If you want to wear them, feel free. But they're completely unnecessary for the task in hand.
I've got to disagree.- Some of us aren't talking about high-ankled brightly-coloured £150 items, which I'd agree are an affectation outside the pit-lane, but something discreet and 'multi-purpose'. I've got 2 pairs of narrower, thin-soled trainers, one dark-tan, one black, both of which look perfectly normal with jeans but are probably 80+% effective compared to a 'proper' driving boot for those occasions when I 100% NEED a driving shoe, e.g. when I hire a Caterham.
- A decent thin-soled shoe makes a genuine difference to both the pedal-feel and the finesse with which you can operate the pedals. I'd far rather drive in something light with a thin sole than something big/chunky, on almost every drive - if I need to wear walking boots I'll tend to chuck them in the car and change footwear when I get to my destination.
(I do acknowledge that a lot of modern cars have so much 'damping' that neither feel nor finesse are required as the engineers have assumed most operators are rather clumsy...but I'd hope most people on here don't drive such cars)
- Some of us have rather large feet...which don't always go hand-in-hand with the smaller pedal-boxes or less-well-spaced pedals.
So, can we get the sniping and b
hing out of the way please?!?deckster said:
Really? You really can't believe some of the piss-taking?
It's like asking which walking boots do I need to wear on my stroll to the shops. If you want to wear them, feel free. But they're completely unnecessary for the task in hand.
Not sure how much track work you do but they are very useful, even compared to Converse.It's like asking which walking boots do I need to wear on my stroll to the shops. If you want to wear them, feel free. But they're completely unnecessary for the task in hand.
havoc said:
deckster said:
It's like asking which walking boots do I need to wear on my stroll to the shops. If you want to wear them, feel free. But they're completely unnecessary for the task in hand.
I've got to disagree.- Some of us aren't talking about high-ankled brightly-coloured £150 items, which I'd agree are an affectation outside the pit-lane, but something discreet and 'multi-purpose'. I've got 2 pairs of narrower, thin-soled trainers, one dark-tan, one black, both of which look perfectly normal with jeans but are probably 80+% effective compared to a 'proper' driving boot for those occasions when I 100% NEED a driving shoe, e.g. when I hire a Caterham.
- A decent thin-soled shoe makes a genuine difference to both the pedal-feel and the finesse with which you can operate the pedals. I'd far rather drive in something light with a thin sole than something big/chunky, on almost every drive - if I need to wear walking boots I'll tend to chuck them in the car and change footwear when I get to my destination.
(I do acknowledge that a lot of modern cars have so much 'damping' that neither feel nor finesse are required as the engineers have assumed most operators are rather clumsy...but I'd hope most people on here don't drive such cars)
- Some of us have rather large feet...which don't always go hand-in-hand with the smaller pedal-boxes or less-well-spaced pedals.
So, can we get the sniping and b
hing out of the way please?!?You have to take into consideration, that although PH is primarily a motoring enthusiasts site, it’s also a lot of other things, to a lot of other, diverse people.
To that end, phrases like pit-lane, pedal-boxes, heel and toe, and mother of all unheard things to me, hiring a Caterham, say what??, sound like excerpts from a “Walter Mitty” movie, I had to Google hire a Caterham to find out what it was, I thought it was just a town in Surrey.
So, to reiterate, I don’t mean to put your hobby down, and I apologise again if you thought that was my intention, it’s just that all that serious talk about cars, and driving them around a track faster than the next guy, has no place in my consciousness, is completely alien, and sounds totally off the wall to me.
Frank7 said:
To that end, phrases like pit-lane, pedal-boxes, heel and toe, and mother of all unheard things to me, hiring a Caterham, say what??, sound like excerpts from a “Walter Mitty” movie,
Don't forget 'spirited drives' and 'track work'.Where is that cringe thread?
On a race track I accept there is a requirement for the right equipment as there is in most sports. However for 'almost every drive' i.e. on our crowded roads wearing driving shoes, 'hooning', or otherwise driving in a 'spirited' fashion mark you out as someone best avoided.
I have a pair of these for when I don’t want to look daft after arriving at my destination.
Very nicely made, and don’t look out of place as “ Normal Shoes “ either.
https://www.herringshoes.co.uk/herring/murlo_rubbe...
Very nicely made, and don’t look out of place as “ Normal Shoes “ either.
https://www.herringshoes.co.uk/herring/murlo_rubbe...
technodup said:
Frank7 said:
To that end, phrases like pit-lane, pedal-boxes, heel and toe, and mother of all unheard things to me, hiring a Caterham, say what??, sound like excerpts from a “Walter Mitty” movie,
Don't forget 'spirited drives' and 'track work'.Where is that cringe thread?
On a race track I accept there is a requirement for the right equipment as there is in most sports. However for 'almost every drive' i.e. on our crowded roads wearing driving shoes, 'hooning', or otherwise driving in a 'spirited' fashion mark you out as someone best avoided.
I was just about to add the same.
Frank7 said:
havoc, it’s obvious that the sniping and light hearted digs, (they are light hearted from me anyway), are annoying you, and for that, for my part alone, I sincerely apologise, I honestly did not set out to wind you or anyone up.
You have to take into consideration, that although PH is primarily a motoring enthusiasts site, it’s also a lot of other things, to a lot of other, diverse people.
To that end, phrases like pit-lane, pedal-boxes, heel and toe, and mother of all unheard things to me, hiring a Caterham, say what??, sound like excerpts from a “Walter Mitty” movie, I had to Google hire a Caterham to find out what it was, I thought it was just a town in Surrey.
So, to reiterate, I don’t mean to put your hobby down, and I apologise again if you thought that was my intention, it’s just that all that serious talk about cars, and driving them around a track faster than the next guy, has no place in my consciousness, is completely alien, and sounds totally off the wall to me.
Understood.You have to take into consideration, that although PH is primarily a motoring enthusiasts site, it’s also a lot of other things, to a lot of other, diverse people.
To that end, phrases like pit-lane, pedal-boxes, heel and toe, and mother of all unheard things to me, hiring a Caterham, say what??, sound like excerpts from a “Walter Mitty” movie, I had to Google hire a Caterham to find out what it was, I thought it was just a town in Surrey.
So, to reiterate, I don’t mean to put your hobby down, and I apologise again if you thought that was my intention, it’s just that all that serious talk about cars, and driving them around a track faster than the next guy, has no place in my consciousness, is completely alien, and sounds totally off the wall to me.
However I have to ask a question back - if you've no interest in the 'driving' side of PH, why the ***ing hell are you (or any of the other piss-takers on here) posting on a thread about driving shoes?!?
The only two immediate thoughts (and maybe this says as much about my current view of PH's membership as about you specifically) are either to put people down (because they're "not like you") or to troll...
sc0tt said:
technodup said:
Frank7 said:
To that end, phrases like pit-lane, pedal-boxes, heel and toe, and mother of all unheard things to me, hiring a Caterham, say what??, sound like excerpts from a “Walter Mitty” movie,
Don't forget 'spirited drives' and 'track work'.Where is that cringe thread?
On a race track I accept there is a requirement for the right equipment as there is in most sports. However for 'almost every drive' i.e. on our crowded roads wearing driving shoes, 'hooning', or otherwise driving in a 'spirited' fashion mark you out as someone best avoided.
I was just about to add the same.
havoc said:
Understood.
However I have to ask a question back - if you've no interest in the 'driving' side of PH, why the ***ing hell are you (or any of the other piss-takers on here) posting on a thread about driving shoes?!?
The only two immediate thoughts (and maybe this says as much about my current view of PH's membership as about you specifically) are either to put people down (because they're "not like you") or to troll...
I genuinely tried to pour oil on troubled waters, (absolutely no pun intended), by sincerely apologising for any umbrage that I’d caused in posting on this “driving shoes” thread.However I have to ask a question back - if you've no interest in the 'driving' side of PH, why the ***ing hell are you (or any of the other piss-takers on here) posting on a thread about driving shoes?!?
The only two immediate thoughts (and maybe this says as much about my current view of PH's membership as about you specifically) are either to put people down (because they're "not like you") or to troll...
I initially posted on it, because the thread title caught my eye, so I clicked on the OP to read it, that’s all.
Hopefully that illustrates that I wasn’t trying to put you or anyone down, because “you’re not like me”, and if I HAD been trolling, which I most certainly was not, it would appear that the trolling had had the desired effect, so I wouldn’t be trying hard to placate those affected would I.
nickfrog said:
You guys are very sensitive and susceptible. Someone says they are totally unnecessary. I disagree as they are very useful IME for track days. We're all different. I have no issues with any car/driving enthusiasts not doing track days, it's their choice even if I don't understand it.
It's not the word 'track' that's the issue. It's the Partridgeism of adding 'work' to it which makes it sound ridiculous when it's basically going round in circles for fun.No issue with that either btw, each to their own, but 'track work'? It's not work. Track day users don't get paid, in fact they pay for the privilege so it just sounds a bit pompous. It's classic Partridge, self important > self aware.
And for the record, although I am not a car 'enthusiast' (another phrase to shudder at) I do like something unusual, and there are areas, particularly build threads where I can admire and respect the passion and dedication people have. Anyone can buy an M4 and 'hoon' it everywhere at 100 'leptons' in their Sparco driving shoes. Far fewer would contemplate a GT40 build or a Lexspace, and I find that infinitely more interesting than wannabe driving gods waffling about pedal feel.
technodup said:
I find that infinitely more interesting than wannabe driving gods waffling about pedal feel.
Then don't read the thread or more to the point don't comment on it. I don't go on a knitting forum and moan about yarn types and needle feel, that would be a bit stupid and a waste of my time. Do you not feel it is a waste of your time to comment on something you have no interest in either way. 
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