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Douglas Quaid said:
Thankyou4calling said:
1000 lb combined is a reasonably achievable measure of strength!!!!
1000 lb
Honestly that is the sort of figure less than 1% of people would get near.
1000lb !!!!! Ha ha you need to look at people, even regular gym goers are not going to get to that.
Powerfully built company directors would barely squat, bench and deadlift 400lb.
A regular gym goer wouldn’t barely manage 400lb, they’d easily surpass that even if they didn’t get to 1000lb. A non lifter could probably do 400lb combined. 1000 lb
Honestly that is the sort of figure less than 1% of people would get near.
1000lb !!!!! Ha ha you need to look at people, even regular gym goers are not going to get to that.
Powerfully built company directors would barely squat, bench and deadlift 400lb.
At my best, I was a fair way north of 400 combined - but to think an Average Joe could walk in off the street and do that with zero training is laughable.
Robertj21a said:
Is it just my imagination or are there some people on this thread just winding people up with their, generally unachievable, claims ?
When you're a hammer every problem looks like a nail.If you lift you think people should be able to lift a minimum amount to demonstrate their fitness, if you run it's running and so on.
C70R said:
Really. You're in cloud-cuckoo land there, chum.
At my best, I was a fair way north of 400 combined - but to think an Average Joe could walk in off the street and do that with zero training is laughable.
It is laughable.At my best, I was a fair way north of 400 combined - but to think an Average Joe could walk in off the street and do that with zero training is laughable.
An hell of a lot couldn’t lift or bench 100 lbs.
And they definitely couldn’t squat it either.
Look around. You’ll see. It’s already noted that the AVERAGE person is obese so they are gonna struggle to get out of a chair!!
Work it out. 1000 lb combined is a 120kg bench, 140kg squat and 190kg deadlift. That is not what I’d call reasonably achievable.
Most gym users couldn’t get near that let alone the average person.
Is there a scientifically proven point where a women crosses the line from curvy to fat? I've witnessed this recently at a fitness class I do. A lady had a grade A bikini figure then started piling on the lumber but still looked ok, then there was a point that I can't pinpoint where she became too fat.
It's probably time I broke the news to her that she is no longer on my list, which she will be grateful to hear and no doubt mend her ways. How the mighty fall.
It's probably time I broke the news to her that she is no longer on my list, which she will be grateful to hear and no doubt mend her ways. How the mighty fall.
C70R said:
Douglas Quaid said:
Thankyou4calling said:
1000 lb combined is a reasonably achievable measure of strength!!!!
1000 lb
Honestly that is the sort of figure less than 1% of people would get near.
1000lb !!!!! Ha ha you need to look at people, even regular gym goers are not going to get to that.
Powerfully built company directors would barely squat, bench and deadlift 400lb.
A regular gym goer wouldn’t barely manage 400lb, they’d easily surpass that even if they didn’t get to 1000lb. A non lifter could probably do 400lb combined. 1000 lb
Honestly that is the sort of figure less than 1% of people would get near.
1000lb !!!!! Ha ha you need to look at people, even regular gym goers are not going to get to that.
Powerfully built company directors would barely squat, bench and deadlift 400lb.
At my best, I was a fair way north of 400 combined - but to think an Average Joe could walk in off the street and do that with zero training is laughable.
400lb is ~182kg.
I reckon average Joe could manage ~60kg for each lift, maybe bias more towards DL, so 50/72/60 bench/DL/squat.
After 1.5 years at the gym I have achieved 1000lbs across the three lifts (165kg squat, 95kg bench and 195kg deadlift). I don't think of my self as 'extraordinarily' strong. I've been between 70-75kg body weight and never trained specifically as a power lifter.
I think most 'average' blokes should be able to bench 50kg, squat 60kg and dead lift 70kg the first time they ever set foot in a gym. After a year or two 1000lbs should be fairly easily achievable.
I think most 'average' blokes should be able to bench 50kg, squat 60kg and dead lift 70kg the first time they ever set foot in a gym. After a year or two 1000lbs should be fairly easily achievable.
Edited by Jamie VTS on Monday 30th April 12:11
Jamie VTS said:
After 1.5 years at the gym I have achieved 1000lbs across the three lifts (165kg squat, 95kg bench and 195kg deadlift). I don't think of my self as 'extraordinarily' strong. I've been between 70-75kg body weight and never trained specifically as a power lifter.
I think most 'average' blokes should be able to bench 50kg, squat 60kg and dead lift 70kg the first time they ever set foot in a gym. After a year or two 1000lbs should be fairly easily achievable.
I'm not bothered whether that's feasible or not (it just sounds like somebody who needs to prove something). I'm more interested in why you feel it matters to 95% of the rest of us ?I think most 'average' blokes should be able to bench 50kg, squat 60kg and dead lift 70kg the first time they ever set foot in a gym. After a year or two 1000lbs should be fairly easily achievable.
Edited by Jamie VTS on Monday 30th April 12:11
What are your best times for swimming, or marathons, or golf scores etc ?.
Strudul said:
C70R said:
Douglas Quaid said:
Thankyou4calling said:
1000 lb combined is a reasonably achievable measure of strength!!!!
1000 lb
Honestly that is the sort of figure less than 1% of people would get near.
1000lb !!!!! Ha ha you need to look at people, even regular gym goers are not going to get to that.
Powerfully built company directors would barely squat, bench and deadlift 400lb.
A regular gym goer wouldn’t barely manage 400lb, they’d easily surpass that even if they didn’t get to 1000lb. A non lifter could probably do 400lb combined. 1000 lb
Honestly that is the sort of figure less than 1% of people would get near.
1000lb !!!!! Ha ha you need to look at people, even regular gym goers are not going to get to that.
Powerfully built company directors would barely squat, bench and deadlift 400lb.
At my best, I was a fair way north of 400 combined - but to think an Average Joe could walk in off the street and do that with zero training is laughable.
400lb is ~182kg.
I reckon average Joe could manage ~60kg for each lift, maybe bias more towards DL, so 50/72/60 bench/DL/squat.
The reason I go to the gym is to be better at the sports I like doing. It also gives me the confidence to just know that I can try any sport and be "OK" at it due to having a fitness basis that allows me to do new stuff. I also don't want to be one of those fat dads you see, with a fat wife like the OP. It's lame. I'm not in it for a six pack, but I am in good shape and I don't know how you can look in the mirror and respect yourself if you don't take care of yourself and what you look like. It's a bad example for your kids, and I don't understand how they don't feel stupid when they can't run around with their kids for ages just because they are overweight and unhealthy. People make up excuses, and usually it is lack of time. There is always time. Make time.
I also have it in mind from my mother in law who is a geriatric doctor, that if you don't have any muscle mass going into old age, you are much more likely to end up in hospital having fallen over. As you get older, your muscles get further from your bones, and therefore you need more muscle mass, particularly flexible muscle mass, to keep you steady. You might not die from falling over, but while you are laid up in hospital recovering from the fall, you are more likely to get something dreadful like pneumonia, which could be fatal.
All that because you didn't take care of yourself seems a bit stupid.
Robertj21a said:
I'm not bothered whether that's feasible or not (it just sounds like somebody who needs to prove something). I'm more interested in why you feel it matters to 95% of the rest of us ?
What are your best times for swimming, or marathons, or golf scores etc ?.
As you asked... Play off 18 with a best round of 84. Mile swim in approx 45 minutes. Haven't run much further than 10k (49 mins). The point I was trying to make is that as someone who doesn't train or compete as a power lifter it's quite attainable to hit a 1000lb total with a little bit of hard work. What are your best times for swimming, or marathons, or golf scores etc ?.
It was a reply to someone saying it's completely out of reach for most people. Which it isn't. Apologies if it came across like I have something to prove, as with anything there are plenty of people who are far far stronger, faster, fitter etc. I'm a classic 'jack of all trades, master of none!'.
Willy Nilly said:
Is there a scientifically proven point where a women crosses the line from curvy to fat? I've witnessed this recently at a fitness class I do. A lady had a grade A bikini figure then started piling on the lumber but still looked ok, then there was a point that I can't pinpoint where she became too fat.
It's probably time I broke the news to her that she is no longer on my list, which she will be grateful to hear and no doubt mend her ways. How the mighty fall.
You should definitely tell her, it's the kindest thing to do.It's probably time I broke the news to her that she is no longer on my list, which she will be grateful to hear and no doubt mend her ways. How the mighty fall.
I do question the effectiveness of the fitness class she is attending though!
What has become apparent is that many people are unaware of what a "normal man" in good health is capable of if they keep themselves healthy and do some training. Of course, it is possible to devote your entire life to one event and some people regard some things as more important than others do, but that is not what we are talking about here.
The typical "normal man" is not in good shape, but they do have the potential to be.
As above, why would you just let yourself go?
The typical "normal man" is not in good shape, but they do have the potential to be.
As above, why would you just let yourself go?
bulldong said:
In my experience, the "average" Joe is really a lot weaker than people who go to the gym remember. If you think back to when you started gymming, I would be impressed if you could have done multiple sets of 40kg bench, 60kg dead lift, and 50kg squats, especially not one after the other.
I'm sure I started on at least 40kg bench, and that was for 12x4, not a 1RM, which is what I'm assuming the 400/1000lb targets are for.Thankyou4calling said:
Have you ever been to an airport and watched a member of the great british public trying to lift a 20kg suitcase onto a same height luggage check in.
They struggle.
There is no way they will hit 400lb combined and 1000 is ridiculous.
PH at it's finest.
That's a row / curl using weak arm muscles in an awkward position, completely different. They struggle.
There is no way they will hit 400lb combined and 1000 is ridiculous.
PH at it's finest.
Thankyou4calling said:
Strudul said:
That's a row / curl using weak arm muscles in an awkward position, completely different.
I’ve never seen anyone curling their suitcase.Most lift it from the trolley using pretty much the same muscles as you would a deadlift.
ks, with the height / position, it's probably almost a fly.MC Bodge said:
What has become apparent is that many people are unaware of what a "normal man" in good health is capable of if they keep themselves healthy and do some training. Of course, it is possible to devote your entire life to one event and some people regard some things as more important than others do, but that is not what we are talking about here.
The typical "normal man" is not in good shape, but they do have the potential to be.
As above, why would you just let yourself go?
Healthy body, healthy mind.The typical "normal man" is not in good shape, but they do have the potential to be.
As above, why would you just let yourself go?
Thankyou4calling said:
Strudul said:
That's a row / curl using weak arm muscles in an awkward position, completely different.
I’ve never seen anyone curling their suitcase.Most lift it from the trolley using pretty much the same muscles as you would a deadlift.
Similarly, watch some people struggling at the tip.
NB. Some people may be strong in gym exercises but, especially if they use mostly machines, not necessarily in real world applications.
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