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MC Bodge said:
What has become apparent is that many people are unaware of what a "normal man" in good health is capable of if they keep themselves healthy and do some training. Of course, it is possible to devote your entire life to one event and some people regard some things as more important than others do, but that is not what we are talking about here.
The typical "normal man" is not in good shape, but they do have the potential to be.
As above, why would you just let yourself go?
Because beer and curry are awesome and lifting heavy things is unpleasant. The typical "normal man" is not in good shape, but they do have the potential to be.
As above, why would you just let yourself go?
Piano falls on granny? I'll help lift it; Sunday lunch continues.
But weights, again and again and again? Pass.
Strudul said:
Assuming we're talking a male adult, not a child or OAP...
400lb is ~182kg.
I reckon average Joe could manage ~60kg for each lift, maybe bias more towards DL, so 50/72/60 bench/DL/squat.
Yep. I took a couple of mates who hadn’t deadlifted before to the gym, neither of which are gym goers. Both could deadlift 100kg for 5 reps after a couple of warmup sets. Thats 220lbs of the 400lb total straightaway and they weren’t really pushing it so pretty sure a 1rm would’ve been more. I didn’t try my mates squatting but as far as the squat goes, even my wife who isn’t a power lifter by any means and is only 7 stone and 5 foot tall could squat 50kg for 5 reps when she tried it. I don’t think a 400lb total is going to be tough for a normal man who hasn’t got any health problems. 400lb is ~182kg.
I reckon average Joe could manage ~60kg for each lift, maybe bias more towards DL, so 50/72/60 bench/DL/squat.
Anyway the thread isn’t about fat/fit men. It’s about fat wives. OP what’s going on? Have you talked to her about it yet or have you just decided to devote a lot of time to Xbox and whatever instead?
FN2TypeR said:
MC Bodge said:
What has become apparent is that many people are unaware of what a "normal man" in good health is capable of if they keep themselves healthy and do some training. Of course, it is possible to devote your entire life to one event and some people regard some things as more important than others do, but that is not what we are talking about here.
The typical "normal man" is not in good shape, but they do have the potential to be.
As above, why would you just let yourself go?
Because beer and curry are awesome and lifting heavy things is unpleasant. The typical "normal man" is not in good shape, but they do have the potential to be.
As above, why would you just let yourself go?
Piano falls on granny? I'll help lift it; Sunday lunch continues.
But weights, again and again and again? Pass.
zygalski said:
EazyDuz said:
Not a good level of fitness. Ive seen guys deadlift massive amounts, unfortunately they're often sporting a lifting belt with their massive bellies hanging over it, then looking around the gym after grunting obnoxiously loudly to see who was admiring them (spoiler: no one)
Much healthier to eat a balanced diet, be between 9-13% bodyfat and can comfortably manipulate your own bodyweight for reps.
Hence why I said BMI is dumb, NHS should advocate bf% and find cheaper ways for people to measure it.
Waist to height ratio is the best way to easily measure visceral fat.Much healthier to eat a balanced diet, be between 9-13% bodyfat and can comfortably manipulate your own bodyweight for reps.
Hence why I said BMI is dumb, NHS should advocate bf% and find cheaper ways for people to measure it.
BMI is a broad brush approach that works on 99% of the population. More accurate but more time consuming measurements are a pointless expense.
It is pretty remarkable how well the body adapts to regular training, even as one careers towards middle age. The problem is so many of us are better at finding excuses for not doing it than actually getting on with it.
Case in point - in one of my rare phases where I actually got on with it, in 5 weeks I brought my 500m freestyle time down from 9'30" to 7'22". Again, not impressive relative to what 'real' swimmers can do, heck, my 12-yr-old son swims 500m in about 6 mins, but it's just an example of the results of actual regular, diligent, HARD training can do for a fat bloke. I trained 5 times a week for about an hour each time, and did loads of fast (for me) interval sets.
Case in point - in one of my rare phases where I actually got on with it, in 5 weeks I brought my 500m freestyle time down from 9'30" to 7'22". Again, not impressive relative to what 'real' swimmers can do, heck, my 12-yr-old son swims 500m in about 6 mins, but it's just an example of the results of actual regular, diligent, HARD training can do for a fat bloke. I trained 5 times a week for about an hour each time, and did loads of fast (for me) interval sets.
Bill said:
Wiast to height is time consuming and intrusive, most (accurate) % fat measurements more so.
BMI is a broad brush approach that works on 99% of the population. More accurate but more time consuming measurements are a pointless expense.
Everybody wants some sort of "official" figure for being overweight, however I guess this is in the hope that they can use it and claim to be "normal"BMI is a broad brush approach that works on 99% of the population. More accurate but more time consuming measurements are a pointless expense.
If people were being honest with themselves a quick look in the mirror would tell them all they need to know, however I guess this wouldn't be the answer they want.......
Douglas Quaid said:
Strudul said:
Assuming we're talking a male adult, not a child or OAP...
400lb is ~182kg.
I reckon average Joe could manage ~60kg for each lift, maybe bias more towards DL, so 50/72/60 bench/DL/squat.
Yep. I took a couple of mates who hadn’t deadlifted before to the gym, neither of which are gym goers. Both could deadlift 100kg for 5 reps after a couple of warmup sets. Thats 220lbs of the 400lb total straightaway and they weren’t really pushing it so pretty sure a 1rm would’ve been more. I didn’t try my mates squatting but as far as the squat goes, even my wife who isn’t a power lifter by any means and is only 7 stone and 5 foot tall could squat 50kg for 5 reps when she tried it. I don’t think a 400lb total is going to be tough for a normal man who hasn’t got any health problems. 400lb is ~182kg.
I reckon average Joe could manage ~60kg for each lift, maybe bias more towards DL, so 50/72/60 bench/DL/squat.
Anyway the thread isn’t about fat/fit men. It’s about fat wives. OP what’s going on? Have you talked to her about it yet or have you just decided to devote a lot of time to Xbox and whatever instead?
I went to the gym once with someone who was regular but admitted they couldn't do 100 kg deadlifts (but their bench press was reasonable at 60kg).
Speaking personally, I have been working out years but I am still not strong. My best ever deadlift was 125 kg and I only really tried to see if I could do it. I've never bothered since. I'd struggle to do 60 kg on the bench press, and could probably do about 80 kg at a push on a squat.
Some people just have s
te genes and need to work hard to be even averagely strong, sadly, I fit neatly into that category.If you have a degree of self awareness then finding you need slightly bigger trousers should be enough of a hint.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt...
On the subject of the OP's wife - I suspect she's bored on her own with a young child, it isn't as easy to exercise and the opportunities for cake have increased. Perhaps he should have a bit of sympathy for her situation rather than jumping in with both feet and fat shaming her.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt...
On the subject of the OP's wife - I suspect she's bored on her own with a young child, it isn't as easy to exercise and the opportunities for cake have increased. Perhaps he should have a bit of sympathy for her situation rather than jumping in with both feet and fat shaming her.
Strudul said:
Assuming we're talking a male adult, not a child or OAP...
400lb is ~182kg.
I reckon average Joe could manage ~60kg for each lift, maybe bias more towards DL, so 50/72/60 bench/DL/squat.
I'd hope so, I found out last month my 6yo daughter can deadlift 30kg (she's only about 25kg) when she picked up one of my workout sandbags400lb is ~182kg.
I reckon average Joe could manage ~60kg for each lift, maybe bias more towards DL, so 50/72/60 bench/DL/squat.
wsurfa said:
I'd hope so, I found out last month my 6yo daughter can deadlift 30kg (she's only about 25kg) when she picked up one of my workout sandbags
A 6 year old who can lift a 30kg sandbag???? I find that extremely hard to belive (obviously I can't prove otherwise, but still). This is PH, is she a powerfully built 6 y/o ?WestyCarl said:
Everybody wants some sort of "official" figure for being overweight, however I guess this is in the hope that they can use it and claim to be "normal"
If people were being honest with themselves a quick look in the mirror would tell them all they need to know, however I guess this wouldn't be the answer they want.......
Yer. I think it must be handy for Drs though? Here is the figure that says you're fat.If people were being honest with themselves a quick look in the mirror would tell them all they need to know, however I guess this wouldn't be the answer they want.......
My gym has got a Boditrax machine in this week, just waiting for it to be wired into the internet. I am quite keen to give it a go.
wsurfa said:
I'd hope so, I found out last month my 6yo daughter can deadlift 30kg (she's only about 25kg) when she picked up one of my workout sandbags
well, my dog can fireman's lift a small poodle at least the width of the doggy area in the local park.also: in the playground it's "my dad's stronger than your dad", on PH it's "my toddler's harder than yours"
Sod the gym, I want to boast about my eating prowess.
Date: 4th July 1998
Venue: The Big Easy crabshack, King's Road, London, Independence Day eating competition
Total lift: 72 spare ribs (Adjudicated)
Time: 20 mins flat
Prize: Sheer glory, £50, and a Big Easy crabshack T-shirt, size small (piss takings)
Date: 4th July 1998
Venue: The Big Easy crabshack, King's Road, London, Independence Day eating competition
Total lift: 72 spare ribs (Adjudicated)
Time: 20 mins flat
Prize: Sheer glory, £50, and a Big Easy crabshack T-shirt, size small (piss taking
s)Joey Ramone said:
Sod the gym, I want to boast about my eating prowess.
Date: 4th July 1998
Venue: The Big Easy crabshack, King's Road, London, Independence Day eating competition
Total lift: 72 spare ribs (Adjudicated)
Time: 20 mins flat
Prize: Sheer glory, £50, and a Big Easy crabshack T-shirt, size small (piss takings)
Now that is a hardcore workoutDate: 4th July 1998
Venue: The Big Easy crabshack, King's Road, London, Independence Day eating competition
Total lift: 72 spare ribs (Adjudicated)
Time: 20 mins flat
Prize: Sheer glory, £50, and a Big Easy crabshack T-shirt, size small (piss taking
s)TameRacingDriver said:
wsurfa said:
I'd hope so, I found out last month my 6yo daughter can deadlift 30kg (she's only about 25kg) when she picked up one of my workout sandbags
A 6 year old who can lift a 30kg sandbag???? I find that extremely hard to belive (obviously I can't prove otherwise, but still). This is PH, is she a powerfully built 6 y/o ?MC Bodge said:
FN2TypeR said:
MC Bodge said:
What has become apparent is that many people are unaware of what a "normal man" in good health is capable of if they keep themselves healthy and do some training. Of course, it is possible to devote your entire life to one event and some people regard some things as more important than others do, but that is not what we are talking about here.
The typical "normal man" is not in good shape, but they do have the potential to be.
As above, why would you just let yourself go?
Because beer and curry are awesome and lifting heavy things is unpleasant. The typical "normal man" is not in good shape, but they do have the potential to be.
As above, why would you just let yourself go?
Piano falls on granny? I'll help lift it; Sunday lunch continues.
But weights, again and again and again? Pass.
Joey Ramone said:
Sod the gym, I want to boast about my eating prowess.
Date: 4th July 1998
Venue: The Big Easy crabshack, King's Road, London, Independence Day eating competition
Total lift: 72 spare ribs (Adjudicated)
Time: 20 mins flat
Prize: Sheer glory, £50, and a Big Easy crabshack T-shirt, size small (piss takings)
This guy knows the score Date: 4th July 1998
Venue: The Big Easy crabshack, King's Road, London, Independence Day eating competition
Total lift: 72 spare ribs (Adjudicated)
Time: 20 mins flat
Prize: Sheer glory, £50, and a Big Easy crabshack T-shirt, size small (piss taking
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