Pussies (aka wtf happened to PH?)
Discussion
Ok. So I grew up in the 80s watching the A Team, Knight Rider and the Dukes of Hazzard. Great shows and great era, I couldn’t wait to get a fast car and what what really kept me watching was the absolute wanton disregard for any speed limits or rules on the roads and always outrunning the cops (or colonel Decker). By contrast the millennials of today have grown up with liberal tv, hate cars and are absolute pussies afraid of their own reflection, let alone taking to the roads at anything more than 35 mph. What the f
k happened ? Threads now seem to take an almost religious devotion to speed limit adherence with outright attacks and outrage is directed toward anyone who suggests fighting tickets.
Go back to 1997 and that is where everything went to st in my view. We had B-liar as prime minister 
and the country just went down the pan, with safety revenue cameras everywhere, a small minded bureaucratic mentality persecuting every minor infraction such as 35 in a 30 and now everybody is too scared to even take a piss on the hard shoulder let alone fight an SP30 just in case they get prosecuted for PCoJ or dangerous driving. Whatever happened to Freeman and the spirit of fighting every ticket and speeding injustice with laser jammers or registering your car to fake shell corporations to evade points ? Does everybody just love Blair so much they can’t wait to take to the roads at stupidly low speeds, sit in traffic for hours whilst they close the motorway at every possible opportunity for every minor shunt to discourage driving full stop in favour of pleblic transport and immediately paying any 35 in a 30 tickets because they are to scared to fight them in the courts? Maybe it’s just me but this entire underhanded and cowardly method of issuing nips through the post when in the old days the cops could only give you a ticket at the roadside and to do that they’d have to catch you first, really now needs to be fought every fking step of the way. Far too many lefties seem to be on this site now and I am genuinely shocked at some of the nonsense responses I’ve seen on recent threads.
k happened ? Threads now seem to take an almost religious devotion to speed limit adherence with outright attacks and outrage is directed toward anyone who suggests fighting tickets. Go back to 1997 and that is where everything went to s
t in my view. We had B-liar as prime minister and the country just went down the pan, with king step of the way. Far too many lefties seem to be on this site now and I am genuinely shocked at some of the nonsense responses I’ve seen on recent threads. Schmed said:
Ok. So I grew up in the 80s watching the A Team, Knight Rider and the Dukes of Hazzard. Great shows and great era, I couldn’t wait to get a fast car and what what really kept me watching was the absolute wanton disregard for any speed limits or rules on the roads and always outrunning the cops (or colonel Decker). By contrast the millennials of today have grown up with liberal tv, hate cars and are absolute pussies afraid of their own reflection, let alone taking to the roads at anything more than 35 mph. What the fk happened ? Threads now seem to take an almost religious devotion to speed limit adherence with outright attacks and outrage is directed toward anyone who suggests fighting tickets.
Go back to 1997 and that is where everything went to st in my view. We had B-liar as prime minister and the country just went down the pan, with safety revenue cameras everywhere, a small minded bureaucratic mentality persecuting every minor infraction such as 35 in a 30 and now everybody is too scared to even take a piss on the hard shoulder let alone fight an SP30 just in case they get prosecuted for PCoJ or dangerous driving. Whatever happened to Freeman and the spirit of fighting every ticket and speeding injustice with laser jammers or registering your car to fake shell corporations to evade points ? Does everybody just love Blair so much they can’t wait to take to the roads at stupidly low speeds, sit in traffic for hours whilst they close the motorway at every possible opportunity for every minor shunt to discourage driving full stop in favour of pleblic transport and immediately paying any 35 in a 30 tickets because they are to scared to fight them in the courts? Maybe it’s just me but this entire underhanded and cowardly method of issuing nips through the post when in the old days the cops could only give you a ticket at the roadside and to do that they’d have to catch you first, really now needs to be fought every fking step of the way. Far too many lefties seem to be on this site now and I am genuinely shocked at some of the nonsense responses I’ve seen on recent threads.
k happened ? Threads now seem to take an almost religious devotion to speed limit adherence with outright attacks and outrage is directed toward anyone who suggests fighting tickets. Go back to 1997 and that is where everything went to s
t in my view. We had B-liar as prime minister and the country just went down the pan, with king step of the way. Far too many lefties seem to be on this site now and I am genuinely shocked at some of the nonsense responses I’ve seen on recent threads. 
Groundhog day or what
A passionate rant, but nonsense.
Thing is, you cant really contest speeding fines if you exceed the speed limit and get caught, thats the law, you are aware of it and then broke it.
Not sure that makes people "pussies", just caught for breaking the law and stuck with it ?
Perhaps dont drive, drive with speed limits or just be aware when you do exceed the speed limit that it is a potential outcome, I tend to observe 30 limits slavishly, I drive past two schools on the way to work, but I get my toe down on the unrestricted bits where I know there are no speed cameras and I have never seen a copper.
Thing is, you cant really contest speeding fines if you exceed the speed limit and get caught, thats the law, you are aware of it and then broke it.
Not sure that makes people "pussies", just caught for breaking the law and stuck with it ?
Perhaps dont drive, drive with speed limits or just be aware when you do exceed the speed limit that it is a potential outcome, I tend to observe 30 limits slavishly, I drive past two schools on the way to work, but I get my toe down on the unrestricted bits where I know there are no speed cameras and I have never seen a copper.
Edited by J4CKO on Thursday 19th April 21:42
I think the problem is twofold.
1. Yes. There is a lot of 'softening' out there. Kids being driven to school at age 12? W. T. F. Cycle/walk or bus. Infantising starts there and flows into adulthood. We're reaping that now.
2. No antidote to softening.
In your specific PH speed limits example, I think a lot of this problem stems from examples where people have posted thoughts on the Internet, and in cases of dire accidents, police have dredged up posts and referenced them in court as indicative of disregard/wrecklessness.... So we now tend to only hear one side speaking out. Welcome 1984......
1. Yes. There is a lot of 'softening' out there. Kids being driven to school at age 12? W. T. F. Cycle/walk or bus. Infantising starts there and flows into adulthood. We're reaping that now.
2. No antidote to softening.
In your specific PH speed limits example, I think a lot of this problem stems from examples where people have posted thoughts on the Internet, and in cases of dire accidents, police have dredged up posts and referenced them in court as indicative of disregard/wrecklessness.... So we now tend to only hear one side speaking out. Welcome 1984......
I drive with the attitude that there is a time and a place for everything. I stick to 30 and 40 limits as they are normally there for a good reoson. 50 limits and above are more or less fair game. Given the right conditions I am happy to considerably stretch the limits ( read ignore ). There are plenty of fast NSL roads whitch are good for stretching the car, I tend to save my enthusiasm for these. As I said a time and a place for everything this and a decent lump of commen sense and you are normally fairly ok.
In the same vein I respect the police and if they catch me doing something wrong that is my fault not theirs. It is my job not to get caught, or more accurately not to be seen in the first place. If I do get stopped I am polite and respectful without arse licking. Normally they extend the same courtesy and are quite reasonable. Not that it matters but I am 21, make of that what you will.
In the same vein I respect the police and if they catch me doing something wrong that is my fault not theirs. It is my job not to get caught, or more accurately not to be seen in the first place. If I do get stopped I am polite and respectful without arse licking. Normally they extend the same courtesy and are quite reasonable. Not that it matters but I am 21, make of that what you will.
I grew up watching the same shows too. They’re fictional. IRL Bo ‘n Luke Duke wouldn’t have been so lightly handled by the Sherrif (And I’ve worked for a bit in Dekalb county - Ga, got a fair idea). For all their vaunted skills as a crack commando unit, the A-team never managed to shoot anyone - you get the analogy.
I don’t dispute a lot of what you say, the increasing H&S/electronic enforcement isn’t my idea of a good time in many ways either (but they also do do good, you can’t deny it).
I’m happy that you appear to have the courage to speak up for your convictions though.
Please don’t try and blame the millennials though - 18yr olds are rarely in a position of influence in policy making. You’ll have to thank your parents (and my/your generation too now)- the ones that are formulating the policies you so strongly abhor.
Since (probably) the majority of PH is exactly in that 35-60 band, alienating your ‘core’ voters by calling them names isn’t likely to be the best strategy for success either.
TL:DR - something about beams, motes & eyes.
I don’t dispute a lot of what you say, the increasing H&S/electronic enforcement isn’t my idea of a good time in many ways either (but they also do do good, you can’t deny it).
I’m happy that you appear to have the courage to speak up for your convictions though.
Please don’t try and blame the millennials though - 18yr olds are rarely in a position of influence in policy making. You’ll have to thank your parents (and my/your generation too now)- the ones that are formulating the policies you so strongly abhor.
Since (probably) the majority of PH is exactly in that 35-60 band, alienating your ‘core’ voters by calling them names isn’t likely to be the best strategy for success either.
TL:DR - something about beams, motes & eyes.
Schmed said:
Go back to 1997 and that is where everything went to st in my view. We had B-liar as prime minister and the country just went down the pan, with safety revenue cameras everywhere,
Speed cameras appeared about 6 years before, around 1991, under the Tories. There were prolific long before Blair. t in my view. We had B-liar as prime minister and the country just went down the pan, with the world changes and some people get left behind whilst everyone else moves on. Those people alienate those around them and end up on their own, doing and saying/shouting things which really kind of just bring on pity and shock from others. I mean maybe it happens to all of us, but i hope it happens to me when I am old, not when I am still relatively young, with a load life of hermitdom and strange looks ahead of me. Often the thing they latched on to early on as their 'signature weirdo issue' was something completely trivial, but it was never about that really.
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