Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 4]
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popeyewhite said:
2. A regular poster quickly looks up the answer on google and passes it off as their own
Or answers from their own knowledge and then gets accused of looking up the answer. Best one I ever had was when someone accused me of quoting Wikipedia, and I had to point out that bit on Wikipedia that they were referring to was something that I myself had contributed to Wikipedia.
But, yes, I certainly don't disagree with your point.
popeyewhite said:
227bhp said:
Einion Yrth said:
Have you considered using Google, at all? I'm told it's quite good for this sort of thing.
You can angle that at every post in this thread and 80% of PH, so you might as well just close this thread and not bother posting up on PH.....1. A question is asked
2. A regular poster quickly looks up the answer on google and passes it off as their own
so in a way you're both kind of correct.
MartG said:
Politicians frequently say 'lessons will be learned' but they never are
That one is right up there with, “the cheque is in the mail”, “It’s okay, I’ve had a vasectomy”, “I will not come in your mouth”, “of course I love you, you know that I love you”, and “relax, I’ll pull out.”Sheets Tabuer said:
Indeed, I'm seeing them everywhere, from the local to the school run to the farm shop, even saw someone in a dressing gown out shopping in them.
Haven't been in the UK for a while, CG were popular about 5 years ago - they are rather passe here. Kinda surprised as the US is usually 10 years behind fashion-wise compared to europeLazadude said:
Do viruses actually look like they do on movies etc? (obviously to a lesser extent, was watching Resident evil, and the footage of the T virus attacking RBCs is what prompted the question).
Hard to explain, but thinking where you see them swim through the petri dish as an odd shaped furry thing and then eat or alter other cells. Or is it purely representational of how we believe they act?
They don't self-propel like locusts, if that's what you mean.Hard to explain, but thinking where you see them swim through the petri dish as an odd shaped furry thing and then eat or alter other cells. Or is it purely representational of how we believe they act?
Here's a documentary on what happens when a Virus meets a cell:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4fjy56
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Best one I ever had was when someone accused me of quoting Wikipedia, and I had to point out that bit on Wikipedia that they were referring to was something that I myself had contributed to Wikipedia.
And in a nutshell that, folks, is why you never look to Wiki for 100% correct, unbiased information. And never, ever, cite Wiki, it's another instance of PHers trying to look smug.CC - not particularly directed at you, no umbrage required!
popeyewhite said:
And in a nutshell that, folks, is why you never look to Wiki for 100% correct, unbiased information. And never, ever, cite Wiki, it's another instance of PHers trying to look smug.
CC - not particularly directed at you, no umbrage required!
No umbrage taken. CC - not particularly directed at you, no umbrage required!
However, I would point out that there is actually an overlap between PHers and Industry Experts. Qualified lawyers who are PHers give Pro Bono advice on PH, for example, yet you seem to be saying that their advice is worthless because they are PHers.
Having said that, I long ago learned to discount anything you have to say so we can at least agree on the fact that your opinions are worthless if nothing else.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
No umbrage taken.
However, I would point out that there is actually an overlap between PHers and Industry Experts. Qualified lawyers who are PHers give Pro Bono advice on PH, for example, yet you seem to be saying that their advice is worthless because they are PHers.
No, I'm saying Wiki can be edited by almost anyone. And no human is free from bias. Further Wiki is not peer reviewed or subject to any academic scrutiny. Whether qualified lawyers give advice on PH is irrelevant and is not under discussion. I'd add that anyone who takes advice from a lawyer on PH over a serious legal matter is bonkers, but I've never seen it happen - it seems to be mostly motoring related waffle.However, I would point out that there is actually an overlap between PHers and Industry Experts. Qualified lawyers who are PHers give Pro Bono advice on PH, for example, yet you seem to be saying that their advice is worthless because they are PHers.
popeyewhite said:
No, I'm saying Wiki can be edited by almost anyone. And no human is free from bias. Further Wiki is not peer reviewed or subject to any academic scrutiny. Whether qualified lawyers give advice on PH is irrelevant and is not under discussion. I'd add that anyone who takes advice from a lawyer on PH over a serious legal matter is bonkers, but I've never seen it happen - it seems to be mostly motoring related waffle.
Yes, it is true that Wiki can be edited by anyone. I was just pointing out that there is an intersection between "PHers" and "people who actually know what they are talking about", although I am not for one moment suggesting that it is anything other than an intersection (rather than a subset). But neither do I accept that they are two separate groups with no intersection.
Dr Jekyll said:
But some expressions have meanings on PH they don't have anywhere else. EG custard test, one that still puzzles me is 'driving like Mrs Daisy', Mrs Daisy didn't drive she had a chauffeur so her driving style and technique is a mystery.
The expression should be 'like driving Miss Daisy'. It would be more about how she was driven or how she expected to be driven.Balmoral said:
Why do some Indian people do that funky little amenable head wobble thing sometimes, I don't mean as in dance, but in discourse. Whats the cultural background to it?
Pay attention, questions will be asked at the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RaBxH_MKQIglazbagun said:
Lazadude said:
Do viruses actually look like they do on movies etc? (obviously to a lesser extent, was watching Resident evil, and the footage of the T virus attacking RBCs is what prompted the question).
Hard to explain, but thinking where you see them swim through the petri dish as an odd shaped furry thing and then eat or alter other cells. Or is it purely representational of how we believe they act?
They don't self-propel like locusts, if that's what you mean.Hard to explain, but thinking where you see them swim through the petri dish as an odd shaped furry thing and then eat or alter other cells. Or is it purely representational of how we believe they act?
Here's a documentary on what happens when a Virus meets a cell:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4fjy56
Viruses certainly don't self-propel. In fact they don't do much at all, except cause untold misery and woe.
Every single cell in the world as we know it, will have a virus that attacks it. Plants, bacteria, fungi, cats, dogs worms and the bushy-backed sea slug. All get viruses.
What you've described in resident evil is purely representational. Viruses are small, really small. You can't see them with a microscope, they won't be seen swimming across a petri dish.
A virus is a strand of DNA or RNA with a few added nasties. (If it has RNA it's a retrovirus, it can convert the RNA to DNA within the target cell) The genetic material is encased within its own little jacket to protect it from the outside environment.
The coat is made up of proteins, and a bit of lipid stolen from the host. It is also surrounded by little glycoproteins, molecular markers that identify the virus. These are what give it a spikey appearance - if present. The protein coat ensures the virus can attach to its target cell; the glycoproteins match markers on the outside of the cell, so the virus invades the right sort of cell. Once inside, it inserts its own DNA in to the host cells DNA and the host cell starts pumping out new virus particles.
Some viruses have long fingery markers, others, such as foot and mouth disease, lack these markers. This is what makes foot and mouth disease so serious, the virions can bumble along on the wind for several miles, cows on an infected farm can infect cows 3 miles downwind.
They don't "eat" other cells. A hijacked cell just fills up with new viruses, until it pops and millions of new viruses spill out and carry on their merry way, infecting more cells, and causing more untold hardship and grief.
When the host cell bursts, the virus particles nick some of the cell membrane and use that in their own protective coats. They need to remain in some form of medium to remain viable, such as a bit of mucus, water droplet. Most viruses denature under UV light, hence why foot and mouth disease doesn't spread well during the summer.
These are actual virus particles taken with an electron microscope (actually, it's a cryotomographic image, and not an electron microscope at all, but who the f
k here will know what cryotomography is, eh?)We know a lot about how they work, how they act and what they do. As with pretty much everything these days, facts are overlooked in favour of a good movie scene, and then the fiction simply continues. Bit like frogs that go 'ribbet'. Only one frog in the world does that, a tree frog in california, but since that was the frog used in very early hollywood movies, the ribbet thing stuck. Just like the wilhelm scream.
Hope that answers your query, I can add more info if you want it.
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