Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 4]

Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 4]

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SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Someone please ask a daft question.

Then someone verbally abuse the first person

Then someone post the right answer.

Get us back on track



Moulder

1,466 posts

213 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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SpeckledJim said:
Someone please ask a daft question.

Then someone verbally abuse the first person

Then someone post the right answer.

Get us back on track
Ok, I'll go....

Why this but not popup headlights? They were only 'dangerous' at night and across maybe 20% of the bonnet.



SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Idiot!

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Moulder said:
Ok, I'll go....

Why this but not popup headlights? They were only 'dangerous' at night and across maybe 20% of the bonnet.


And surely pop up headlights could be made safe but still look cool?

Someone needs to engineer a way to do this

SlimRick

2,258 posts

166 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Shakermaker said:
Moulder said:
Ok, I'll go....

Why this but not popup headlights? They were only 'dangerous' at night and across maybe 20% of the bonnet.


And surely pop up headlights could be made safe but still look cool?

Someone needs to engineer a way to do this
Hidden headlights are almost as cool, surely someone can do those like they did on 60's American cars - GTOs etc.



Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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StevieBee said:
48k said:
What is a Think Tank?
It's another phrase for 'Focus Group' or 'Roundtable'.....or as I prefer to call them, 'meetings'.

I am required to organise them from time to time. If structured well and you get the right participants, they can be useful. One I chaired last year was on the issue of single-use plastic and some of the outcomes of that looks to have found its way into the government's revised waste strategy review which will then move to policy at some point.

It's not uncommon to hold a really good, progressive gathering with some of the best people leading to some very sound outcomes, only for them to be ignored because they don't align with political or policy agendas.

Think Tanks do have their uses but to be honest, a great deal of them are definitions of the maxim that 'A camel is a horse drawn by committee'.
Isn't it a bit more organised than that, such is the impression I get?

Many of them are organisations that do work/research etc - but for a buyer. Or, they do it, and then sell the results on to news outlets or government committees with the hope of continuing their funding and getting their project extended?



Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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droopsnoot said:
Willy Nilly said:
When was the first baby born to a girl born after 1st Jan 2000?
"born to a girl" as opposed to what? Or did you mean "born a girl"? Or am I terribly out of touch with modern gender fluidity?

I'd imagine a simple answer would be "2nd Jan 2000" but I suspect that's not what you meant.
Or, at 00.01 on 02/01/2000?

Moulder

1,466 posts

213 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Frank7 said:
droopsnoot said:
Willy Nilly said:
When was the first baby born to a girl born after 1st Jan 2000?
"born to a girl" as opposed to what? Or did you mean "born a girl"? Or am I terribly out of touch with modern gender fluidity?

I'd imagine a simple answer would be "2nd Jan 2000" but I suspect that's not what you meant.
Or, at 00.01 on 02/01/2000?
Some people just can't be helped...

Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Moulder said:
Frank7 said:
droopsnoot said:
Willy Nilly said:
When was the first baby born to a girl born after 1st Jan 2000?
"born to a girl" as opposed to what? Or did you mean "born a girl"? Or am I terribly out of touch with modern gender fluidity?

I'd imagine a simple answer would be "2nd Jan 2000" but I suspect that's not what you meant.
Or, at 00.01 on 02/01/2000?
Some people just can't be helped...
Fair enough, I guess that I asked for that.
I read the question as, “When was the first baby born to a girl after Jan.1st. 2000.”
On re-reading it, it was, “When was the first baby born to a girl WHO WAS born after Jan. 1st. 2000?”
We’ve already had the sad answer to that, sorry for my speed reading.

Moulder

1,466 posts

213 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Frank7 said:
Fair enough, I guess that I asked for that.
I read the question as, “When was the first baby born to a girl after Jan.1st. 2000.”
On re-reading it, it was, “When was the first baby born to a girl WHO WAS born after Jan. 1st. 2000?”
We’ve already had the sad answer to that, sorry for my speed reading.
No problem, I think it was more the answer itself than the workings behind it that we were trying to get away from.

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Shakermaker said:
And surely pop up headlights could be made safe but still look cool?

Someone needs to engineer a way to do this
It's aerodynamics as well as safety that put paid to them. Who is going to take the efficiency loss of them?

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

184 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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I’ve had an iPhone for about 4 years now, had android all the time before that. Every now and then, I’ll get a notification saying “X minutes to...” and then an address. Not strange on it’s own, but the address is my sisters old house that she moved from 6 years ago! I don’t have her address stored in her contact and haven’t been there since the day I helped her move.

Anyone know why, firstly, I’d be getting a random satnav notification, but also why/how it would assume that I’d want to go to her old house or how it would know?! I’d guess it would be based on most visited places, but there’s hundreds of places I’ve been since I’ve had an iPhone that I’ve visited way more often that the dozen or so times I went to that house (like the pub, more times in the last month!!).

98elise

26,710 posts

162 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Shakermaker said:
Moulder said:
Ok, I'll go....

Why this but not popup headlights? They were only 'dangerous' at night and across maybe 20% of the bonnet.


And surely pop up headlights could be made safe but still look cool?

Someone needs to engineer a way to do this
Of course they could. We have safe cars with low bonnets and safe cars with high bonnets. The lights would just need a safe profile in the up position.

StevieBee

12,957 posts

256 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Shakermaker said:
StevieBee said:
48k said:
What is a Think Tank?
It's another phrase for 'Focus Group' or 'Roundtable'.....or as I prefer to call them, 'meetings'.

I am required to organise them from time to time. If structured well and you get the right participants, they can be useful. One I chaired last year was on the issue of single-use plastic and some of the outcomes of that looks to have found its way into the government's revised waste strategy review which will then move to policy at some point.

It's not uncommon to hold a really good, progressive gathering with some of the best people leading to some very sound outcomes, only for them to be ignored because they don't align with political or policy agendas.

Think Tanks do have their uses but to be honest, a great deal of them are definitions of the maxim that 'A camel is a horse drawn by committee'.
Isn't it a bit more organised than that, such is the impression I get?

Many of them are organisations that do work/research etc - but for a buyer. Or, they do it, and then sell the results on to news outlets or government committees with the hope of continuing their funding and getting their project extended?
Yes, they come in all shapes and sizes including the type you mention. Some have some nice budgets to carry out specific research, with that budget coming from the institution that set it up. Others form informally yet take on very structured forms; typically (but not exclusively) those that emerge from academia.

What emerges from the former of these two tends to suffer the greatest accusation of skewing. For example, way back, the Tobacco Industry commissioned numerous Think Tanks with the aim of establishing that the risk from smoking was small. Which of course they did. It was the outcomes of the work from the independent Think Tanks that were used to properly inform the debate.

In politics, any one group of politicians or a party may be inclined to commission a Think Tank to prove their point. That which emerges from independent Think Tanks tends to get ignored or given less regard because it is 'unofficial', though no less relevant. The way to determine accuracy and impartiality is to consider three things: 1) Who's paying? 2) Who's involved and 3) What's in it for them?



Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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StevieBee said:
The way to determine accuracy and impartiality is to consider three things: 1) Who's paying? 2) Who's involved and 3) What's in it for them?
The way to judge accuracy and impartiality is to read the report and check the references. If it's being selective with the data or misleading that's how you find out. Not by saying 'somebody paid for it so it must be wrong'.

ashleyman

6,992 posts

100 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Jonboy_t said:
I’ve had an iPhone for about 4 years now, had android all the time before that. Every now and then, I’ll get a notification saying “X minutes to...” and then an address. Not strange on it’s own, but the address is my sisters old house that she moved from 6 years ago! I don’t have her address stored in her contact and haven’t been there since the day I helped her move.

Anyone know why, firstly, I’d be getting a random satnav notification, but also why/how it would assume that I’d want to go to her old house or how it would know?! I’d guess it would be based on most visited places, but there’s hundreds of places I’ve been since I’ve had an iPhone that I’ve visited way more often that the dozen or so times I went to that house (like the pub, more times in the last month!!).
Yes. There was a thread about this on PH sometime ago. Wish I could remember where it was and what the solution was.

I used to get it whilst out, it would say X minutes to Home, but Home address wasn't correct even though I had the correct address stored in the phone.

I think you have to turn off frequent locations?

Clockwork Cupcake

74,762 posts

273 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Dr Jekyll said:
The way to judge accuracy and impartiality is to read the report and check the references. If it's being selective with the data or misleading that's how you find out. Not by saying 'somebody paid for it so it must be wrong'.
Surely the way to really judge accuracy is to become an expert in that field through years of studying, and then peer review the report?

But for those of us unwilling to do that, the rough rule of thumb of "follow the money" is a fair First Approximation.

StevieBee

12,957 posts

256 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Dr Jekyll said:
StevieBee said:
The way to determine accuracy and impartiality is to consider three things: 1) Who's paying? 2) Who's involved and 3) What's in it for them?
The way to judge accuracy and impartiality is to read the report and check the references. If it's being selective with the data or misleading that's how you find out. Not by saying 'somebody paid for it so it must be wrong'.
Quite right. But by the time much of the outputs of such endeavours make its way into the public domain, much of the detail will have been simplified as often, assessment of the scientific or detailed work requires detailed knowledge of the subject in the first place in order to understand it.

By asking those three questions, you can at least - if you were so motivated - make a more informed choice as to which to put under greater scrutiny.


ajprice

27,628 posts

197 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Flibble said:
Shakermaker said:
And surely pop up headlights could be made safe but still look cool?

Someone needs to engineer a way to do this
It's aerodynamics as well as safety that put paid to them. Who is going to take the efficiency loss of them?
Modern lights wouldn't need to be 7" or 5 3/4" round lights now though like the MX5 or 944. Projector, LED or HID lights would only need to rise a few inches to work. But then if you're only trying to hide away smaller lights like that, is it worth having them popping up? There are low profile lights conversions for MX5 etc. And non pop up conversions too.


SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Those bottom ones are perhaps even worse in terms of pedestrian protection than the original popups.

Not relevant on a racing car, but I don't think something like that could ever pass the normal tests.
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