Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 4]

Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 4]

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Clockwork Cupcake

74,549 posts

272 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Doofus said:
I know all that, I would just see no point in investing to make more money.
Fair enough.

Most people would want to see it at least tracking inflation, so it would not be decreasing in real-terms value.

Personally I'd be looking at a managed ultra low-risk investment portfolio, living off the income and only dipping into the capital for big purchases. But each to their own.

Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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popeyewhite said:
GT03ROB said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Why are caravans always white?
Reflects the sun, keeps them cooler...…

….absolutely no idea if that's correct
Not sure about this, but may be correct. Unlike the popular misconception that white is the coolest colour clothing to wear in summer. An exception to that is all things Miami Vice.
You can't leave it hanging like that. If it's not white, what colour is it? Arab robes are predominantly white in colour surely and they ought to know.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,549 posts

272 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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I suspect that the real reason is that white gelcoat is cheap, durable, and is the colour most people want. And gelcoat doesn't need to be painted.

There was a period in the 70's or 80's when caravans were beige and they dated very quickly. But white never really goes out of fashion.


V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Johnspex said:
popeyewhite said:
GT03ROB said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Why are caravans always white?
Reflects the sun, keeps them cooler...…

….absolutely no idea if that's correct
Not sure about this, but may be correct. Unlike the popular misconception that white is the coolest colour clothing to wear in summer. An exception to that is all things Miami Vice.
You can't leave it hanging like that. If it's not white, what colour is it? Arab robes are predominantly white in colour surely and they ought to know.
For the chaps. The head-to-toe covered ladies are all in black.

White supremacy, innit hehe

hurstg01

2,914 posts

243 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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anonymous said:
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with the bonus that, once their wages are covered by the increase, they get a split [not necessarily 50/50...] of the 'profit' to ensure they do the best for you

StevieBee

12,888 posts

255 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Doofus said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Doofus said:
It's not as if £150m is ever going to run out, so why bother with investments, stocks and shares and the like? It's a mind-numbingly tedious subject at the best of times, and if I didn't need my momey to multiply, I'd stay well clear. Life's too short.
At the very least you would want to spread it out across many banks. If stored in one bank, and they go bust, you would lose all of it apart from the £85,000 protection that the government provides.

Edit: That's £85k per banking group, not £85k per brand, so you would want to account (no pun intended) for that.
I know all that, I would just see no point in investing to make more money.
There's a couple of reasons.

If you make money from your money via investment it means there are others making even more. Those others will be companies that use your investment to develop products, new services and create new jobs so your investment is contributing to overall economic growth.

However, economic principals dictate that the value of money ebbs and flows. One likes to think that over time the trajectory remains upwards or at least reasonably stable but investing enables the opportunity to build a buffer against such variation so that in theory, your original capital worth remains unchanged.

All that said, the value of money can in extreme cases plummet to near zero. This has happened an awful lot - though not in the UK (that I'm aware of) but there is nothing to say it won't. Political instability, war, energy shortages and many others can cause this. This is why many high net worth people will invest in gold (as in physical blocks of the stuff) and other tangible assets that tend to be unaffected or affected less by such economic catastrophe.

LimaDelta

6,520 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Doofus said:
I know all that, I would just see no point in investing to make more money.
Do you have kids? Most people with that kind of money would like to leave a legacy for their descendants. It's not just about how much one person can spend, it's about ensuring your children and their children get to enjoy the privileges a small fortune can bring. It's how new money becomes old money.

Doofus

25,817 posts

173 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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LimaDelta said:
Do you have kids? Most people with that kind of money would like to leave a legacy for their descendants. It's not just about how much one person can spend, it's about ensuring your children and their children get to enjoy the privileges a small fortune can bring. It's how new money becomes old money.
It's a hundred and fifty million quid. You'd have to be pretty irresponsibe for there not to be a legacy.

LimaDelta

6,520 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Doofus said:
It's a hundred and fifty million quid. You'd have to be pretty irresponsibe for there not to be a legacy.
Indeed. By not investing it properly for example.

Doofus

25,817 posts

173 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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I didn't say I wouldn't invest it properly. I said I wouldn't feel the need to make more money and consequently, I'd avoid stocks and shares because they bore the tits off me.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Doofus said:
LimaDelta said:
Do you have kids? Most people with that kind of money would like to leave a legacy for their descendants. It's not just about how much one person can spend, it's about ensuring your children and their children get to enjoy the privileges a small fortune can bring. It's how new money becomes old money.
It's a hundred and fifty million quid. You'd have to be pretty irresponsibe for there not to be a legacy.
Really? Won't even buy a decent boat for your summer hols wink

Doofus

25,817 posts

173 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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V8mate said:
Really? Won't even buy a decent boat for your summer hols wink
Boat = caravan without wheels smile

Clockwork Cupcake

74,549 posts

272 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Doofus said:
I didn't say I wouldn't invest it properly. I said I wouldn't feel the need to make more money and consequently, I'd avoid stocks and shares because they bore the tits off me.
Obviously what you do with your hypothetical windfall is entirely up to you, but I'm not sure how you would "invest it properly" without buying stocks and shares. However, you wouldn't play the stock market yourself (which is what I think you are saying you would want to avoid) - you would instead pay a firm to manage an investment portfolio for you, and would specify the level of risk vs return you would accept. For an ultra low-risk strategy, the firm would only invest in stocks, shares, and bonds that had an incredibly low risk of failure, and would spread your investment over many firms. The returns are lower, but so is the risk.

You literally wouldn't need to lift a finger - just watch your bank balance increase.

Doofus

25,817 posts

173 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Obviously what you do with your hypothetical windfall is entirely up to you, but I'm not sure how you would "invest it properly" without buying stocks and shares. However, you wouldn't play the stock market yourself (which is what I think you are saying you would want to avoid) - you would instead pay a firm to manage an investment portfolio for you, and would specify the level of risk vs return you would accept. For an ultra low-risk strategy, the firm would only invest in stocks, shares, and bonds that had an incredibly low risk of failure, and would spread your investment over many firms. The returns are lower, but so is the risk.

You literally wouldn't need to lift a finger - just watch your bank balance increase.
Thank you. I am a grown-up and I do actually do this already. I take absolutely zero interest in what's invested because it is so unspeakably dull. At the moment, I need my money to multiply. If I had £150m, I wouldn't. smile

I have other investments too, which I take more interest in, but as I said, that's because I actually need to make money.

Roofless Toothless

5,662 posts

132 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Doofus said:
V8mate said:
Really? Won't even buy a decent boat for your summer hols wink
Boat = caravan without wheels smile


Why are luxury yachts always white?

getmecoat

Doofus

25,817 posts

173 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Roofless Toothless said:


Why are luxury yachts always white?

getmecoat
Exactly smile And the tables double up as beds, and you have to poo in a cupboard.

C2Red

3,984 posts

253 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Roofless Toothless said:


Why are luxury yachts always white?
Ray, your thread has arrived

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

135 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Doofus said:
Roofless Toothless said:


Why are luxury yachts always white?

getmecoat
Exactly smile And the tables double up as beds, and you have to poo in a cupboard.
And you need about 5 staff full time to stop it trying to destroy itself when you are not there.

How I laughed at the owners in their luxury yacht as we got the cramped sweaty bus out of Portofino in June.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Roofless Toothless said:


Why are luxury yachts always white?

getmecoat
And why do they have backwards slanting windscreens while serious boats have forward slanting ones? Purely aesthetics for the backwards slanting I suppose, but what's the advantage of forwards? Keeps the rain off? Stops the sun glaring off the screen?

captain_cynic

11,998 posts

95 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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Roofless Toothless said:


Why are luxury yachts always white?

getmecoat
White reflect sunlight, making the interiors cooler. Same with a most cruise ships.

I imagine container ships just use the cheapest paints.
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