Cheeky but realistic low offers on houses / cars
Discussion
Noodle1982 said:
The first house i bought was up for sale for 125k. Very little advertising of it and was in an area of very little foot traffic.Over the space of 3 months i made numerous offers, each one less than the one previously agreed.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court.
You sound a joy.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court. You sound a joy.
mike74 said:
mikal83 said:
Nope the idiot was the one making the stupid offer, they lost, the next person that offered we negociatted and came to a deal. That's what you get when you try it on, piss of the seller.
You come across as very sad, inadequate and heavily emotionally invested in what is just a house.PositronicRay said:
Noodle1982 said:
The first house i bought was up for sale for 125k. Very little advertising of it and was in an area of very little foot traffic.Over the space of 3 months i made numerous offers, each one less than the one previously agreed.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to fk off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court.
You sound a joy.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court. You sound a joy.
If you don't ask you don't get.
Ari said:
People seem to be missing the crucial point.
It matters not how much you knocked off the asking price. ALL that matters is what you paid and what you got for it.
In simple terms, better to buy a car at £18,000 asking price than an identical car at £20,000 that you managed to knock a grand off.
Agreed, if you love the house and it's likely to be your long term/forever home then a few grand either way is inconsequential. Who wants a house that is a compromise, but you can pat yourself on the back at a 'negotiation well done'?It matters not how much you knocked off the asking price. ALL that matters is what you paid and what you got for it.
In simple terms, better to buy a car at £18,000 asking price than an identical car at £20,000 that you managed to knock a grand off.
Noodle1982 said:
PositronicRay said:
Noodle1982 said:
The first house i bought was up for sale for 125k. Very little advertising of it and was in an area of very little foot traffic.Over the space of 3 months i made numerous offers, each one less than the one previously agreed.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to fk off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court.
You sound a joy.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court. You sound a joy.
If you don't ask you don't get.
Noodle1982 said:
The first house i bought was up for sale for 125k. Very little advertising of it and was in an area of very little foot traffic.Over the space of 3 months i made numerous offers, each one less than the one previously agreed.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to fk off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court.
Calling bullsI offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court. t on this one.If you make an offer and it is accepted, that is it. The only negotiating points are about subject too clauses. Pretty sure that's how it works here in the colony.
Noodle1982 said:
The first house i bought was up for sale for 125k. Very little advertising of it and was in an area of very little foot traffic.Over the space of 3 months i made numerous offers, each one less than the one previously agreed.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to fk off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court.
Calling bullsI offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court. t on this one.If you make an offer and it is accepted, that is it. The only negotiating points are about subject too clauses. Pretty sure that's how it works here in the colony.
RJO said:
Noodle1982 said:
The first house i bought was up for sale for 125k. Very little advertising of it and was in an area of very little foot traffic.Over the space of 3 months i made numerous offers, each one less than the one previously agreed.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to fk off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court.
Calling bullsI offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court. t on this one.If you make an offer and it is accepted, that is it. The only negotiating points are about subject too clauses. Pretty sure that's how it works here in the colony.
Edited by Noodle1982 on Saturday 14th July 10:43
RJO said:
Noodle1982 said:
The first house i bought was up for sale for 125k. Very little advertising of it and was in an area of very little foot traffic.Over the space of 3 months i made numerous offers, each one less than the one previously agreed.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to fk off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court.
Calling bullsI offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court. t on this one.If you make an offer and it is accepted, that is it. The only negotiating points are about subject too clauses. Pretty sure that's how it works here in the colony.
Edited by mikal83 on Saturday 14th July 12:13
Noodle1982 said:
The first house i bought was up for sale for 125k. Very little advertising of it and was in an area of very little foot traffic.Over the space of 3 months i made numerous offers, each one less than the one previously agreed.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to fk off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court.
....so much for my word is my bond..... you may think that makes you clever ..... but others may not agree.I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court. GT03ROB said:
Noodle1982 said:
The first house i bought was up for sale for 125k. Very little advertising of it and was in an area of very little foot traffic.Over the space of 3 months i made numerous offers, each one less than the one previously agreed.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to fk off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court.
....so much for my word is my bond..... you may think that makes you clever ..... but others may not agree.I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court. I didn't do it to make myself feel clever. I did it to save £45k. I really couldn't care less if others don't agree with it.
GT03ROB said:
....so much for my word is my bond..... you may think that makes you clever ..... but others may not agree.
I'd have blacklisted him at the first price reduction and I suspect I'm not the only one. It might have worked for you that time but it doesn't sound like a sensible way to negotiate as surely more often than not you'll just be told to bugger off?
Algarve said:
I'd have blacklisted him at the first price reduction and I suspect I'm not the only one.
It might have worked for you that time but it doesn't sound like a sensible way to negotiate as surely more often than not you'll just be told to bugger off?
I've gotten vastly more glee telling people I couldn't be fIt might have worked for you that time but it doesn't sound like a sensible way to negotiate as surely more often than not you'll just be told to bugger off?
king bothered to deal with their st than any money they had to offer me over the years.I expect negotiations to be businesslike. You dick around, shop elsewhere. I've never been in a position where I was desperate though and never would let on.
PositronicRay said:
Noodle1982 said:
The first house i bought was up for sale for 125k. Very little advertising of it and was in an area of very little foot traffic.Over the space of 3 months i made numerous offers, each one less than the one previously agreed.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to fk off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court.
You sound a joy.
so you renegged your first offer?
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court. You sound a joy.
so you renegged your first offer?
andymc said:
PositronicRay said:
Noodle1982 said:
The first house i bought was up for sale for 125k. Very little advertising of it and was in an area of very little foot traffic.Over the space of 3 months i made numerous offers, each one less than the one previously agreed.
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to fk off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court.
You sound a joy.
so you renegged your first offer?
I offered 115k. They accepted so i then offered 100k. They refused. A few weeks later when they hadnt had any other offers come in they agreed to the 100k, so i then offered them 90k. Fast forward a few weeks and same scenario so i then offered 80k
Long story short but i ended up getting it for 80k.
Numerous times i could see the estate agent on the verge of telling me to f
k off every time i changed my offer but i knew the sellers wanted to get rid of the house as soon as possible and with them not having any other offers the metaphorical ball was in my court. You sound a joy.
so you renegged your first offer?
I renegged my first, second, third and fourth offer.
At the time I wasn't actively searching for a house so if the seller or estate agent had told me where to go i wouldn't have lost any sleep over it.
FunkyNige said:
overunder12g said:
I negotiate large deals for a living. When selling cars/houses it is amazing how many people come up with some strategy they have probably read on the internet or some bloke down the pub suggested. Really is first form stuff. This is not the "what's your lowest price mate" muppets.
Got any basic tips for us?Noodle1982 said:
I thought my post made it quite obvious. However, to answer your question...
I renegged my first, second, third and fourth offer.
At the time I wasn't actively searching for a house so if the seller or estate agent had told me where to go i wouldn't have lost any sleep over it.
Possibly "cutting my nose off to spite my face" but I wouldn't have sold to somebody with your approach..I renegged my first, second, third and fourth offer.
At the time I wasn't actively searching for a house so if the seller or estate agent had told me where to go i wouldn't have lost any sleep over it.
My logic is that by selling to somebody with an approach like yours you I'm encouraging / rewarding pretty s
tty behaviour. I'd rather take a loss and sell the house to a decent person that a scumball. Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff