Genuine question about Muslims and trees..

Genuine question about Muslims and trees..

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Shay HTFC

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3,588 posts

190 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Puggit said:
Is it the requirements of large family groups living together and needing more parking than is available?
It's not actually converting gardens into driveways, as a lot of the greenery is above street level.

It's just the stripping back of anything green or that needs tending to, to the extent that plants go out and plastic flowers go in!

It's just really gaudy in a really tat way!

g3org3y

20,666 posts

192 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Mexman said:
Possibly explained by the fact they tend to congregate in urban/inner city areas and rarely venture out into the open countryside for some strange reason.
Indian colleague informed me that the traditional view is that if you're rich you live in the city, if you're poor you live in the countryside. Our trainee GP from Nepal believed the same.

Mexman

2,442 posts

85 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Countdown said:
There’s a surprising viewpoint.... from the guy who thinks Mo Farah isn’t really “British”....

OP - we chopped all 3 of ours down. They were a PITA to maintain and the roots were screwing up the lawn.
Yeah, ok we get it, you love everything multicultural and living in complete harmony.
Meanwhile back in good old Blighty....

Thorpy

251 posts

149 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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I'm white and non religious and I've ripped out a large amount of greenery in my front and back garden including a silver birch. Still need to get rid of the pond too though!

Shay HTFC

Original Poster:

3,588 posts

190 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Thorpy said:
I'm white and non religious and I've ripped out a large amount of greenery in my front and back garden including a silver birch. Still need to get rid of the pond too though!
Genuine question: Did you go to university? Did your parents go to university?

Mexman

2,442 posts

85 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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g3org3y said:
Mexman said:
Possibly explained by the fact they tend to congregate in urban/inner city areas and rarely venture out into the open countryside for some strange reason.
Indian colleague informed me that the traditional view is that if you're rich you live in the city, if you're poor you live in the countryside. Our trainee GP from Nepal believed the same.
Makes sense I suppose in a roundabout sort of way.
Most of the inner city congregations seem happy to live in complete dumps though?
Inner Bradford/Leeds/Birmingham et Al.
I spent the first 42 years of my life in inner Brum and let's just say, you couldn't pay me enough to move back.

Thats What She Said

1,155 posts

89 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Maybe its more of a cultural thing? Gardens need looking after and require some effort putting into them. Maybe they feel its far easier to just concrete over everything.

Wobbegong

15,077 posts

170 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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A good friend of the family is Muslim and we’ve often visited his house for various weddings / parties. His garden is like an oasis in the middle of concrete Birmingham.

So no, it’s not a religious / cultural thing, it’s an individual person thing.

Robbo 27

3,663 posts

100 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Thorpy said:
I'm white and non religious and I've ripped out a large amount of greenery in my front and back garden including a silver birch. Still need to get rid of the pond too though!
Ruudy 'ell. I have a silver birch and a pond, must be lagging behind.





Not sure what it has to do with gardening but Robbo is white and religious and went to St Johns, Cambridge

Thorpy

251 posts

149 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Shay HTFC said:
Genuine question: Did you go to university? Did your parents go to university?
Yes and No, what has that got to do with anything? I'm just not into gardening, however my mother is but she is 160 miles away.

Thorpy

251 posts

149 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Robbo 27 said:
Ruudy 'ell. I have a silver birch and a pond, must be lagging behind.
Don't hang about, get out there with all the manly tools you can muster and have at it!

gazza285

9,837 posts

209 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Less things for their sons to wrap lairy Beemers around.

rodericb

6,790 posts

127 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Mexman said:
g3org3y said:
Mexman said:
Possibly explained by the fact they tend to congregate in urban/inner city areas and rarely venture out into the open countryside for some strange reason.
Indian colleague informed me that the traditional view is that if you're rich you live in the city, if you're poor you live in the countryside. Our trainee GP from Nepal believed the same.
Makes sense I suppose in a roundabout sort of way.
Most of the inner city congregations seem happy to live in complete dumps though?
Inner Bradford/Leeds/Birmingham et Al.
I spent the first 42 years of my life in inner Brum and let's just say, you couldn't pay me enough to move back.
Where I live it'd be 1/3rd Indian, 1/3rd SE asian (Chinese, Indonesian, Malaysian, Philo) and 1/3rd etcetera. A lot of people just don't care for gardening. It's a new estate and the developers actually paid for front gardens and a lot haven't been touched in years. So it's not a Muslim thing! That said, a lot of westerners don't seem interested in it either!

davek_964

8,850 posts

176 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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My neighbours are Indian. A few years ago they had a lot of work done to their back garden to make it more kid friendly - which meant more of it became grass. Do they seem the opposite of the OPs observations.

The odd part is that their kids are almost never in their garden - even in the summer. Yet they regularly play football in their lounge.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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I have a feeling that communing with nature just isn't high up on a lot of peoples agenda any more. How many kids these days go out for hours to 'play in the woods'?

Having said that, my first experience of 'Asian' neighbours in about 1980 does tally with the OP's observation. Out old neighbours had the nicest garden in the street but they really spent a lot of time at it. When they sold up the first thing the (Indian) buyers did was rip out anything that might grow . They turned the whole property into a concrete jungle. It was a bit of a shock to the existing residents at the time!

Parking wasn't the reason either as they put up a five foot wall around the front garden and there was no dropped curb or driveway.




Roofless Toothless

5,718 posts

133 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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A generation ago many East End Jews moved upmarket to the leafy suburbs of Gants Hill and Barkingside. Very soon many front gardens were paved over and boasted possession of the family Volvo.

Locally such gardens were known as Jewish lawns.

andymc

7,366 posts

208 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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think its more of an extra parking issue than Muslim

alabbasi

2,516 posts

88 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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There's probably a practical reason. Gardens take a lot of effort to keep and their attention might be elsewhere , like playing with their grand children.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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alabbasi said:
There's probably a practical reason. Gardens take a lot of effort to keep and their attention might be elsewhere , like playing with their grand children.
Or (stereo type alert) running a shop / business for far more hours a day than your average westerner is prepared to work.

Triumph Man

8,716 posts

169 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Mexman, you say they went to the far end of the beach, a few months ago we went to Bournemouth beach in the evening, and were pretty much the only ones there until a large Inidan family turned up and stood right next to us! They couldn't be more integrated if they tried! Indeed I thought they wanted to become integrated with my sandwich, such was their proximity. Until they broke out the curry cooking equipment (and before anyone accuses me of "wascism", they had a myriad of pots, pans, and spices.


Edited by roops.mod on Tuesday 21st August 09:30