Who's buying a new coat for winter?

Who's buying a new coat for winter?

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Tony Angelino

1,972 posts

114 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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Gameface said:
Justayellowbadge said:
I practically live in one of these once summer is over:

https://mcnairshirts.com/product/the-mcnair-heavyw...

incredibly well made and versatile. Not my usual thing, but once tried it became a firm fixture.
Ordered a heavyweight merino in mustard yellow.

They look like quality.

Thanks for the link.
I got one of the moleskin shirts 12 months ago, really pleased with it.

Did you go for the made to measure option? The lady who does them is the owner I think and you can tell selling and making them means the world to her.

MarkJS

1,550 posts

148 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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I received one of these today and wore it for a few miles this afternoon. Brilliant coat (wind-proof & waterproof) & really good quality.


Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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Tony Angelino said:
Gameface said:
Justayellowbadge said:
I practically live in one of these once summer is over:

https://mcnairshirts.com/product/the-mcnair-heavyw...

incredibly well made and versatile. Not my usual thing, but once tried it became a firm fixture.
Ordered a heavyweight merino in mustard yellow.

They look like quality.

Thanks for the link.
I got one of the moleskin shirts 12 months ago, really pleased with it.

Did you go for the made to measure option? The lady who does them is the owner I think and you can tell selling and making them means the world to her.
No, I spoke to them and gave them my measurements and I'm bang on one of the standard sizes.

Tony Angelino

1,972 posts

114 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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Gameface said:
No, I spoke to them and gave them my measurements and I'm bang on one of the standard sizes.
Well I think you've made a great purchase as far as jackets go. Great company and a fantastic product.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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I'm looking forward to receiving it.

TheJimi

25,010 posts

244 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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I think I'm gonna buy their mountain jacket.

Need to email them and ask a few questions, but yeah, this looks and sounds tremendous.

A real "buy it for life" item.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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Will never be affected by "fashion".

Quality and classic tailoring rarely is.

TheJimi

25,010 posts

244 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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Aye, properly timeless.

I love how it's made entirely in Yorkshire as well, and that all the materials are natural and sustainable.

popeyewhite

19,948 posts

121 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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TheJimi said:
I think I'm gonna buy their mountain jacket.
I hope you're not going to pay £450 for an outdoor jacket with no hood that's not waterproof. There's an old Yorkshire expression... .

TheJimi

25,010 posts

244 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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I have technical jackets that fit that role, but yes, I agree, it's a mental amount of money for a jacket without a hood, or with even a rudimentary element of water repellency.

Having said that, I would't be buying the jacket for actual wilderness use - more a cold weather urban / casual walking jacket.

MC Bodge

21,650 posts

176 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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popeyewhite said:
TheJimi said:
I think I'm gonna buy their mountain jacket.
I hope you're not going to pay £450 for an outdoor jacket with no hood that's not waterproof. There's an old Yorkshire expression... .
It is basically a merino version of the US army M51 wool blend shirt (I have an original one, it didn't cost a lot). It may be heavier than the M51, but it doesn't look like a winter coat.
Merino isn't that great for heavier clothing and won't be as hard wearing.


Edited by MC Bodge on Monday 28th December 11:41

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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We like them. You don't. The world keeps turning.

popeyewhite

19,948 posts

121 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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MC Bodge said:
Merino isn't that great for heavier clothing and won't be as hard wearing.
I've found that to be the case with several New Zealand merino baselayers I've owned over the years. They go at the elbows and stretching isn't really a merino thing. Also, though they aren't bad for moisture absorption, the problem is they can weigh a bloody ton because of the water they hold. This would be a particular concern if wearing merino as an outer layer in the rain/drizzle I think. What I would say as a positive is that for weight (and 30 years skiing) they seem the warmest baselayers and my go to for the coldest Alpine ski days.

Bonefish Blues

26,805 posts

224 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Watch out for mulesing frown

PositronicRay

27,043 posts

184 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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TheJimi said:
Having said that, I would't be buying the jacket for actual wilderness use - more a cold weather urban / casual walking jacket.
Like the army surplus stuff we used for college in the 70s.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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TheJimi said:
WTF are you doing with the jackets to bin them in a couple of years?!

My oldest Rab Jacket (Microlight alpine jacket) I've had for 6 years, and it's been through a hell of a lot more than what you describe, and still in fantastic condition - it's been bounced about on pub crawls and scraped about on Scottish crags, and everything else in between.

I know climbers who are lot harder on their kit than me, and their Rab gear just shrugs it off, inc one mate who's sponsored by Rab, and who really doesn't baby the kit!

I don't disbelieve you, but genuinely surprised at you only getting a couple of years out of that use case.
The demise of my jackets have been entirely my own fault.

One was nearly 2 years old when it ripped open when I caught it on some sharp metal while lifting something out of a van, then the other side got ripped open on a building site when I walked past a sticking out nail.

The latest one got caught on something as well, but my wife stitched it up. It then met its end when she washed it on a standard cotton hot wash and then bunged it in the tumble dryer on hot for an hour, which somehow made the zip teeth begin to fall apart and the zip stitching to start failing. You can’t zip it up anymore now. I know they are supposed to be washed and dried carefully with cool temperatures...

If I used them as they were intended, for walking and stuffing into a rucksack, I imagine they would last for years. But I find them very thin and comfortable so wear them for all kinds of ‘rough’ outdoor tasks, which the very thin material isn’t designed for. It snags easily on stuff and rips.

Like I said, entirely my own fault.

MC Bodge

21,650 posts

176 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Gameface said:
We like them. You don't. The world keeps turning.
I'm sure they are very nice, but it's expensive for something that isn't a actually a winter coat and isn't made from a resilient material.

If you want one, buy it.

MC Bodge

21,650 posts

176 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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popeyewhite said:
MC Bodge said:
Merino isn't that great for heavier clothing and won't be as hard wearing.
I've found that to be the case with several New Zealand merino baselayers I've owned over the years. They go at the elbows and stretching isn't really a merino thing. Also, though they aren't bad for moisture absorption, the problem is they can weigh a bloody ton because of the water they hold. This would be a particular concern if wearing merino as an outer layer in the rain/drizzle I think. What I would say as a positive is that for weight (and 30 years skiing) they seem the warmest baselayers and my go to for the coldest Alpine ski days.
I agree. I have merino base layers and that I like for cool weather activities (they do wear out, though) and I am currently wearing an Icebreaker 320 jumper - It's not as warm as a (cheaper) lambswool jumper, though.

TheJimi

25,010 posts

244 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Dunno why this didn't occur to me before, but wool garments irritate me something rotten.

I don't actually own any merino based stuff - does merino irritate the same way as wool does?

MC Bodge

21,650 posts

176 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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TheJimi said:
Dunno why this didn't occur to me before, but wool garments irritate me something rotten.

I don't actually own any merino based stuff - does merino irritate the same way as wool does?
Merino is wool, but I find that the fine threads that they use make for soft, non itchy clothing.