Peer pressure to buy kids phones
Discussion
bulldong said:
PulsatingStar said:
Its always been something though. When I was at school in the 80s and skating was big all the cool kid had Bauer Skates, but I only had a pair of Roces so had to put up with all the piss taking. I didnt get the cool trainers either, or any of the other fads that come and go.
That's hilarious, I remember begging my mum and dad for a pair of Bauer blades. Eventually they caved in and I got them but spread across Christmas and Birthday. I agree though, pester power has always been there but you couldn't buy a pair of Bauer skates on credit, hence not everyone was able to have them just like that.My 10 year old son has asked for the latest IPhone for Christmas I laughed!!
No kids, but I worked with a guy who had 2 teenage kids at the time, daughter probably 16 and son probably 13-14, he came into work one day really stressed and upset, completely out of character...
To cut a long story short his son had been allegedly involved/instigated a sexting conversation with a girl in his class, to the point where police were on the verge of getting involved.
Turns out the girl involved was seeking attention so all was dropped, but it demonstrated to me how dangerous a phone can be in a child's hands and is the risk worth it.
To cut a long story short his son had been allegedly involved/instigated a sexting conversation with a girl in his class, to the point where police were on the verge of getting involved.
Turns out the girl involved was seeking attention so all was dropped, but it demonstrated to me how dangerous a phone can be in a child's hands and is the risk worth it.
Alucidnation said:
Camelot1971 said:
wjwren said:
My 2 daughters had a meltdown the other week. They both want new iphone 7's for Christmas. I informed them santa wont be buying £900 of phones. They are 12&14. Some of the kids in their class have contract iphones, these same parents rent houses and lease the latest cars. They dont own jack s
t. I suggested id buy a brand new Moto G or similar, that went down well! It HAS to have the apple badge on apparently. They have had 2nd hand iphone 5's in the past but they break and are usually bought off ebay and are already knackered or they get old iphones off family members, which are equally broken. Or they drop them and break them. They refuse to have a case as it isnt cool.
How the ft. I suggested id buy a brand new Moto G or similar, that went down well! It HAS to have the apple badge on apparently. They have had 2nd hand iphone 5's in the past but they break and are usually bought off ebay and are already knackered or they get old iphones off family members, which are equally broken. Or they drop them and break them. They refuse to have a case as it isnt cool.k do you know what other parents financial affairs are? Having a dig at people renting their home? How PH "tw@t" of you 
rustyuk said:
bulldong said:
PulsatingStar said:
Its always been something though. When I was at school in the 80s and skating was big all the cool kid had Bauer Skates, but I only had a pair of Roces so had to put up with all the piss taking. I didnt get the cool trainers either, or any of the other fads that come and go.
That's hilarious, I remember begging my mum and dad for a pair of Bauer blades. Eventually they caved in and I got them but spread across Christmas and Birthday. I agree though, pester power has always been there but you couldn't buy a pair of Bauer skates on credit, hence not everyone was able to have them just like that.My 10 year old son has asked for the latest IPhone for Christmas I laughed!!
BrabusMog said:
rustyuk said:
bulldong said:
PulsatingStar said:
Its always been something though. When I was at school in the 80s and skating was big all the cool kid had Bauer Skates, but I only had a pair of Roces so had to put up with all the piss taking. I didnt get the cool trainers either, or any of the other fads that come and go.
That's hilarious, I remember begging my mum and dad for a pair of Bauer blades. Eventually they caved in and I got them but spread across Christmas and Birthday. I agree though, pester power has always been there but you couldn't buy a pair of Bauer skates on credit, hence not everyone was able to have them just like that.My 10 year old son has asked for the latest IPhone for Christmas I laughed!!
BrabusMog said:
rustyuk said:
bulldong said:
PulsatingStar said:
Its always been something though. When I was at school in the 80s and skating was big all the cool kid had Bauer Skates, but I only had a pair of Roces so had to put up with all the piss taking. I didnt get the cool trainers either, or any of the other fads that come and go.
That's hilarious, I remember begging my mum and dad for a pair of Bauer blades. Eventually they caved in and I got them but spread across Christmas and Birthday. I agree though, pester power has always been there but you couldn't buy a pair of Bauer skates on credit, hence not everyone was able to have them just like that.My 10 year old son has asked for the latest IPhone for Christmas I laughed!!
I eventually got Buaers one year. Think is was about 12 at the time. So nice not to have hard plastic wheels haha. Happy memories!
Mike335i said:
BrabusMog said:
rustyuk said:
bulldong said:
PulsatingStar said:
Its always been something though. When I was at school in the 80s and skating was big all the cool kid had Bauer Skates, but I only had a pair of Roces so had to put up with all the piss taking. I didnt get the cool trainers either, or any of the other fads that come and go.
That's hilarious, I remember begging my mum and dad for a pair of Bauer blades. Eventually they caved in and I got them but spread across Christmas and Birthday. I agree though, pester power has always been there but you couldn't buy a pair of Bauer skates on credit, hence not everyone was able to have them just like that.My 10 year old son has asked for the latest IPhone for Christmas I laughed!!
I eventually got Buaers one year. Think is was about 12 at the time. So nice not to have hard plastic wheels haha. Happy memories!
tty £40 ones that I wore down to metal on metal bearings. My mates had some Bauers I was so so jealous.Im tempted to dig mine out and have a go again!
Starting secondary school in 2002, I remember phones (along with iPods and later on, PSPs) were the latest "must have". At the time, mobile phone technology was advancing quite quickly, so there were many people who were keen to jump on the bandwagon to get a phone with polyphonic ringtones, a colour screen, Bluetooth/IR etc. Phones at the time were not hideously expensive as they are now, but I was told if I wanted a new phone, then you need to go out an earn it which I did.
I don't remember any bullying going on if you didn't have the latest phone, either the passing of time has erased this particular memory, or it happened out of sight. I think the bullies at my school were that stupid or that spaced out on drugs, that they wouldn't have been able to tell different phones apart.
My sister is a primary school teacher, and for the last few years she has taught years 2-3 (age 6-7, I think). She tells me that there are children in her class that have fairly new or maybe even new iPhones! Totally unnecessary, especially since their use is strictly forbidden during school time.
Changing the subject a little but the introduction of Bluetooth was quite something, it meant you could send notes, pictures, video and music without using your PAYG credit. Infra-red allowed this earlier on, but you had to have the phones right next to each other, but with Bluetooth you could be within 10m of each other so you could even send things to your mates in the next classroom! Kids these days don't know the struggle etc.
I don't remember any bullying going on if you didn't have the latest phone, either the passing of time has erased this particular memory, or it happened out of sight. I think the bullies at my school were that stupid or that spaced out on drugs, that they wouldn't have been able to tell different phones apart.
My sister is a primary school teacher, and for the last few years she has taught years 2-3 (age 6-7, I think). She tells me that there are children in her class that have fairly new or maybe even new iPhones! Totally unnecessary, especially since their use is strictly forbidden during school time.
Changing the subject a little but the introduction of Bluetooth was quite something, it meant you could send notes, pictures, video and music without using your PAYG credit. Infra-red allowed this earlier on, but you had to have the phones right next to each other, but with Bluetooth you could be within 10m of each other so you could even send things to your mates in the next classroom! Kids these days don't know the struggle etc.
You people do realise that some of us are reasonable adults with disciplined, well-adjusted children who simply don’t mind them having a phone and are prepared to commit some outlay to provide this? I couldn’t care less what anyone else thinks about the matter. My kids manage to FaceTime their close friends who, by definition, must also have comparable iPhones. They won’t ever be allowed to take them to school. Why on earth does this have to be deemed some ridiculous, over-committed ostentatious “keeping up with the jones’s” portrayal of false wealth or a manifestation of poor parenting and over-indulgence? A parent on benefits contracting an XS Max for a primary school child I could agree is poor prioritisation, but for parents who have no difficulty affording these things and who manage their use responsibly, I find this really baffling.
Mike335i said:
BrabusMog said:
rustyuk said:
bulldong said:
PulsatingStar said:
Its always been something though. When I was at school in the 80s and skating was big all the cool kid had Bauer Skates, but I only had a pair of Roces so had to put up with all the piss taking. I didnt get the cool trainers either, or any of the other fads that come and go.
That's hilarious, I remember begging my mum and dad for a pair of Bauer blades. Eventually they caved in and I got them but spread across Christmas and Birthday. I agree though, pester power has always been there but you couldn't buy a pair of Bauer skates on credit, hence not everyone was able to have them just like that.My 10 year old son has asked for the latest IPhone for Christmas I laughed!!
I eventually got Buaers one year. Think is was about 12 at the time. So nice not to have hard plastic wheels haha. Happy memories!
Mine all had half decent phones, we tend to contribute but not buy it outright, they have been pretty good with them to be fair, they would get the rest of the money together themselves.
The Smartphone is at the centre of their lives nowadays, rightly or wrongly, it has some negatives, but a lot of positives and to be fair we arent going back, you can go on about "In my day" and all that but you are posting on an internet forum, irony ?
Its all very well playing Victorian Dad but there is a balance to be struck, back in my time there were similar pressure to conform, also Iphones are generally much nicer than Androids, plus a nice Android phone is a similar price now anyway.
We need to move with the times and stop assuming it was all better in "our day", when we were younger we had some old fart waffling about "You know what they need, National Service" and "Bloody Punk Rockers".
The Smartphone is at the centre of their lives nowadays, rightly or wrongly, it has some negatives, but a lot of positives and to be fair we arent going back, you can go on about "In my day" and all that but you are posting on an internet forum, irony ?
Its all very well playing Victorian Dad but there is a balance to be struck, back in my time there were similar pressure to conform, also Iphones are generally much nicer than Androids, plus a nice Android phone is a similar price now anyway.
We need to move with the times and stop assuming it was all better in "our day", when we were younger we had some old fart waffling about "You know what they need, National Service" and "Bloody Punk Rockers".
J4CKO said:
Mine all had half decent phones, we tend to contribute but not buy it outright, they have been pretty good with them to be fair, they would get the rest of the money together themselves.
The Smartphone is at the centre of their lives nowadays, rightly or wrongly, it has some negatives, but a lot of positives and to be fair we arent going back, you can go on about "In my day" and all that but you are posting on an internet forum, irony ?
Its all very well playing Victorian Dad but there is a balance to be struck, back in my time there were similar pressure to conform, also Iphones are generally much nicer than Androids, plus a nice Android phone is a similar price now anyway.
We need to move with the times and stop assuming it was all better in "our day", when we were younger we had some old fart waffling about "You know what they need, National Service" and "Bloody Punk Rockers".
My first response to that was "what complete and utter bThe Smartphone is at the centre of their lives nowadays, rightly or wrongly, it has some negatives, but a lot of positives and to be fair we arent going back, you can go on about "In my day" and all that but you are posting on an internet forum, irony ?
Its all very well playing Victorian Dad but there is a balance to be struck, back in my time there were similar pressure to conform, also Iphones are generally much nicer than Androids, plus a nice Android phone is a similar price now anyway.
We need to move with the times and stop assuming it was all better in "our day", when we were younger we had some old fart waffling about "You know what they need, National Service" and "Bloody Punk Rockers".
ks", although in the interests of not being a keyboard warrior, let me refine that down to "that's a very subjective point". 
I've always had Android phones. I was given an iPad at work. It was utterly horrible in comparison, to the point where when it was due for replacement, I bought myself an Android tablet and didn't bother picking up the work iPad.
Kermit power said:
J4CKO said:
Mine all had half decent phones, we tend to contribute but not buy it outright, they have been pretty good with them to be fair, they would get the rest of the money together themselves.
The Smartphone is at the centre of their lives nowadays, rightly or wrongly, it has some negatives, but a lot of positives and to be fair we arent going back, you can go on about "In my day" and all that but you are posting on an internet forum, irony ?
Its all very well playing Victorian Dad but there is a balance to be struck, back in my time there were similar pressure to conform, also Iphones are generally much nicer than Androids, plus a nice Android phone is a similar price now anyway.
We need to move with the times and stop assuming it was all better in "our day", when we were younger we had some old fart waffling about "You know what they need, National Service" and "Bloody Punk Rockers".
My first response to that was "what complete and utter bThe Smartphone is at the centre of their lives nowadays, rightly or wrongly, it has some negatives, but a lot of positives and to be fair we arent going back, you can go on about "In my day" and all that but you are posting on an internet forum, irony ?
Its all very well playing Victorian Dad but there is a balance to be struck, back in my time there were similar pressure to conform, also Iphones are generally much nicer than Androids, plus a nice Android phone is a similar price now anyway.
We need to move with the times and stop assuming it was all better in "our day", when we were younger we had some old fart waffling about "You know what they need, National Service" and "Bloody Punk Rockers".
ks", although in the interests of not being a keyboard warrior, let me refine that down to "that's a very subjective point". I've always had Android phones. I was given an iPad at work. It was utterly horrible in comparison, to the point where when it was due for replacement, I bought myself an Android tablet and didn't bother picking up the work iPad.
- you've gone and done it now, Kermit . The thread will have increased in length by 10 pages before the day is out with the Apple and Android fanbois arguing with each over the merits of each OS and why one is better or worse than the other. I have both and Android and an iPhone. The Android (Mate 20 Pro) phone is much nicer in every way and more versatile. The iPhone (6s plus) is great as a no frills work phone, which makes the price of them really hard to justify.
You may say that the iPhone 6s is old, but it is virtually identical to my wife's iPhone 8 in pretty much every regard. Except mine is bigger and has a 3.5mm jack.
I'm not a fan boy either, I just choose a device that suits my needs for the given budget.
You may say that the iPhone 6s is old, but it is virtually identical to my wife's iPhone 8 in pretty much every regard. Except mine is bigger and has a 3.5mm jack.
I'm not a fan boy either, I just choose a device that suits my needs for the given budget.
Vaud said:
Let’s just agree to kill the argument now by saying both have their merits and neither can be materially judged as “better” through any objective measurement.
You've got no chance pal! Everyone will chime in with their tuppence worth and then close off by saying that they're definitely not a fanboi. Got my lad a 128gb iphone Se back in 2017 for secondary school. We don’t have i phones but this was too good an offer. £15 a month for 1gb data .Luckily he isn’t into all the designer stuff. Gave him my old ipad mini 3 but he has never used it just uses his old Nexus tablet.
Daughter is 10 so will get a phone for secondary school so will see what offers are out there.
Daughter is 10 so will get a phone for secondary school so will see what offers are out there.
Vaud said:
MYOB said:
Not to me. I would understand if the phones are confiscated for the rest of the day. But not allowing children to have their phones back until the next Friday could potentially raise legal issues.
A legal view:https://schoolsweek.co.uk/whats-the-law-on-confisc...
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