Peer pressure to buy kids phones
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You've got no chance pal! Everyone will chime in with their tuppence worth and then close off by saying that they're definitely not a fanboi. Mike335i said:
Haha I take your point.
As an aside, what actually constitutes a 'fanboi'?
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fa...As an aside, what actually constitutes a 'fanboi'?
Take your pick.
This pretty much sums it up : "Fanbois typically spend most of their free time telling anyone who will listen how perfect thier item of choice is, and how inferior all other products are. Fanbois will not stop annoying other people until everyone they know is converted to their way of thinking."
Downward said:
My sons phone is in my name so technically it’s mine.
Not relevant. In England teachers actually have quite a lot of power by statute:From the legal guidance:
Headteachers and staff authorised by them have a statutory power to search pupils or their possessions, without consent, where they have reasonable grounds for suspecting that the pupil may have a prohibited item.
[knives or weapons, alcohol, illegal drugs, stolen items, tobacco and cigarette papers, firework, pornographic images, any article that the member of staff reasonably suspects has been, or is likely to be, used: to commit an offence, to to cause personal injury to, or damage to the property of, any person (including the pupil).
Headteachers and authorised staff can also search for any item banned by the school rules which has been identified in the rules as an item which may be searched for.
Confiscation: School staff can seize any prohibited item found as a result of a search. They can also seize any item, they consider harmful or detrimental to school discipline.
My add: For phones they can seize and search the phone - and pass to Police if they think there is a crime. If no offence, they can still delete files/data from the phone and/or retain the phone.
It makes no reference to who "owns" the phone. He could be in breach for alcohol that you had bought, but they could still seize it.
My 10 year old mentioned that a number of kids in his class (year 5) had phones. He was obviously angling for one himself. I surprised him by saying I'd be happy for him to have a phone...... provided he finds a way of paying for it. I suggested that we could arrange some sort of chores for cash arrangement whereby he does jobs around the house for the odd quid here and there and when he saved up enough he can get a phone. He'd then have to continue the chores for cash arrangement to run the phone. Given that he's physically allergic to any form of manual labour he decided that phones weren't that interesting. I was a bit disappointed that he preferred to do without rather than work for it.....
Rawwr said:
Let's just agree that any parent who buys their child an Android device should be reported to the NSPCC.
Kids don't call them "Sam Scum's" without reason.
Maybe I'm just too liberal and not an old fashioned Dad, but my daughter just got an Iphone 8 for her 15th B'day. She's a good kid, trying hard at school, helps aorund the house (when not on her phone....) never damaged any other phone she's had, plus probably her most used and treasured possession, so why not?
Anyway, saying kids / people "don't need" stuff is a very slippery slope. How many of us "need" our particular choice of car and couldn't manage with something cheaper
WestyCarl said:
Kids don't call them "Sam Scum's" without reason.
Maybe I'm just too liberal and not an old fashioned Dad, but my daughter just got an Iphone 8 for her 15th B'day. She's a good kid, trying hard at school, helps aorund the house (when not on her phone....) never damaged any other phone she's had, plus probably her most used and treasured possession, so why not?
Anyway, saying kids / people "don't need" stuff is a very slippery slope. How many of us "need" our particular choice of car and couldn't manage with something cheaper
15 is more a "young adult" than a kid and you are rewarding good behaviour? I think a lot of the sentiment is that a 10 year old doesn't need one.Maybe I'm just too liberal and not an old fashioned Dad, but my daughter just got an Iphone 8 for her 15th B'day. She's a good kid, trying hard at school, helps aorund the house (when not on her phone....) never damaged any other phone she's had, plus probably her most used and treasured possession, so why not?
Anyway, saying kids / people "don't need" stuff is a very slippery slope. How many of us "need" our particular choice of car and couldn't manage with something cheaper
vsonix said:
It wouldn't surprise me if manufacturers pay 'cool' kids to evangelise certain brands, I remember when I was in school the arbitrary rules over what trainers were 'cool' and what weren't - how did anyone know to begin with, was it just a matter of copying older siblings (I had none)?
For example: Nike were cool but only if they were 'Air' ones and not regular. Reebok 'Pump' Hi-Tops - epitome of cool, then went to epitome of 'Naff' in the space of about a week. Just after I got some, sods law. 'Naf Naf' was cool, despite the name. Fila - if you had a pair of Fila basketball boots you were like God. Adidas was cool, I guess thanks to the Hip-Hop effect and Run DMC rapping about them. Reebok were cool with a certain demographic - the 14 year olds who already smoked 30 a day and were always in detention. But woe betide you if you were adventurous/stupid enough to show up with Hi-Tec trainers (but you were cool if you managed to bend the rules and wear black Hi-tec trainers instead of Clarks school clodhoppers), or Puma or *gasp* Gola.
Any of those brands was like social suicide and marked you out as having fleas and/or herpes.
One of my daughters teaches and she recently moved to a somewhat dodgy school in a very, in PH terminology, 'council' area. She was astonished by the adherence to 'labels' that the kids there have - never mind iPhones (which they all have), they're outcasts if they're not wearing £1000 coats.For example: Nike were cool but only if they were 'Air' ones and not regular. Reebok 'Pump' Hi-Tops - epitome of cool, then went to epitome of 'Naff' in the space of about a week. Just after I got some, sods law. 'Naf Naf' was cool, despite the name. Fila - if you had a pair of Fila basketball boots you were like God. Adidas was cool, I guess thanks to the Hip-Hop effect and Run DMC rapping about them. Reebok were cool with a certain demographic - the 14 year olds who already smoked 30 a day and were always in detention. But woe betide you if you were adventurous/stupid enough to show up with Hi-Tec trainers (but you were cool if you managed to bend the rules and wear black Hi-tec trainers instead of Clarks school clodhoppers), or Puma or *gasp* Gola.
Any of those brands was like social suicide and marked you out as having fleas and/or herpes.
At her previous school, in what might be described as a posh area, the kids have basic Android phones and think anyone who would spend £100 on a t-shirt is mental.
Sheepshanks said:
One of my daughters teaches and she recently moved to a somewhat dodgy school in a very, in PH terminology, 'council' area. She was astonished by the adherence to 'labels' that the kids there have - never mind iPhones (which they all have), they're outcasts if they're not wearing £1000 coats.
At her previous school, in what might be described as a posh area, the kids have basic Android phones and think anyone who would spend £100 on a t-shirt is mental.
I've just read this article on the BBC about a school banning CG/Moncler jackets amongst other brands - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-4...At her previous school, in what might be described as a posh area, the kids have basic Android phones and think anyone who would spend £100 on a t-shirt is mental.
I'm amazed kids would be given such flash jackets, especially to wear to school. My parents were fairly well off when I was going to school but the best I remember getting was a Ralph Lauren jacket we picked up in America for cheap.
BrabusMog said:
I've just read this article on the BBC about a school banning CG/Moncler jackets amongst other brands - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-4...
Maybe it's a regional thing - that school is remarkably close to my daughter's!Rawwr said:
Surely buying your kids Canada Goose and Moncler stuff is even more crazy because they'll grow out of it in about 20 minutes? Assuming it's genuine stuff, too.
Probably more like "Grimsby Chicken" brands you find at the local sunday dodgy market. It was NAFNAF co 54 and Technics flight jackets when I was at school.
devnull said:
Rawwr said:
Surely buying your kids Canada Goose and Moncler stuff is even more crazy because they'll grow out of it in about 20 minutes? Assuming it's genuine stuff, too.
Probably more like "Grimsby Chicken" brands you find at the local sunday dodgy market. It was NAFNAF co 54 and Technics flight jackets when I was at school.
Vaud said:
simonrockman said:
Every now and again someone comes up with the bright idea of a special phone for kids.
They always crash and burn.
I love the design ideas behind the Punkt MP01 but it seems woeful in execution.They always crash and burn.
alorotom said:
Mike335i said:
I just heard about that on the radio. I have never heard of those brands. Then again, being a man, expensive fashion mostly passes me by.
Sexist much?? Why does being a man mean fashions pass you by??!Even the mates I had who did care about fashion when we were younger pretty much stopped giving a toss about it, especially once they'd settled down and got kids.
Kermit power said:
alorotom said:
Mike335i said:
I just heard about that on the radio. I have never heard of those brands. Then again, being a man, expensive fashion mostly passes me by.
Sexist much?? Why does being a man mean fashions pass you by??!Even the mates I had who did care about fashion when we were younger pretty much stopped giving a toss about it, especially once they'd settled down and got kids.
simonrockman said:
The nicest phone ever built was the Motorola Aura, it was the follow-up to the Razr from the same team. Unfortunately, the Razr was such a sucess the Motorola machine kicked in and lots of people decided to "help" this delayed the phone by three years and it was a 2G phone in a 3G world. Mine lives pristine in its box.
That has dated quite well, lovely mechanism.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff