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Does my head in too. Once or twice a year I'll go out the front of the house and fill a small bag of rubbish just by clearing a 100 yard stretch of the hedgerow opposite. I don't get the mentality, but put it down to a few factors:
- People are stupid f
ks so won't compress/pack down their rubbish, so end up putting out overflowing bins which then blow open and rubbish ends up everywhere.
- People are stupid fks who can't go more than 5 minutes without stuffing some sort of junk food down their throat, and can't be bothered to carry around the packaging or find a bin.
- People are just stupid fks who have no respect or think it's not their problem.
Not convinced fines are the answer (it hasn't had much impact so far). Increasing them will only result in more over-zealous wardens. Personally I think I better solution would for offenders to spend a day litter picking, wearing bright fluorescent tops with the words "I am a filthy litter dropping".
- People are stupid f
ks so won't compress/pack down their rubbish, so end up putting out overflowing bins which then blow open and rubbish ends up everywhere.- People are stupid f
ks who can't go more than 5 minutes without stuffing some sort of junk food down their throat, and can't be bothered to carry around the packaging or find a bin.- People are just stupid f
ks who have no respect or think it's not their problem.Not convinced fines are the answer (it hasn't had much impact so far). Increasing them will only result in more over-zealous wardens. Personally I think I better solution would for offenders to spend a day litter picking, wearing bright fluorescent tops with the words "I am a filthy litter dropping
".
There's a volunteering rota in our village to litter pick, lots of stuff in hedgerows and ditches especially visible this time of year, most notably sis gel packs and wrappers dropped by cyclists presumably emulating there heroes in the tour by wanging their lunch detritus.
Have you though about setting something like that up in your area, I would never drop litter anyway but when you see them out there picking it up it does reinforce the message.
Have you though about setting something like that up in your area, I would never drop litter anyway but when you see them out there picking it up it does reinforce the message.
anonymous said:
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This.Why the hell can't people keep rubbish in their cars until they get to a bin or do what I do... Just don't eat or drink in the car if you can avoid it. There are literally 1,000,001 solutions for this from car bins to hanging a plastic bag from the glove box to simply cleaning your car on a regular basis. There is zero reason to toss rubbish out of your car.
Also some of it comes from fly tipping, which is a bit more of a complex problem as a lot of councils are unreasonable about taking extra waste. I strictly disagree with dumping it in the common or a field somewhere, but understand why it happens and councils need to improve handling extra household and light construction waste from residents.
anonymous said:
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I've always been of the mind that fines do SFA to discourage this kind of behaviour. I think people who get caught littering should have to do 5 hours of picking up litter from the roads and commons. Get caught again, its 25 hours. 50 hours for subsequent offences.One of my pet hates. Unfortunately I live near a chav estate and it's horrendous. Flytipping etc..
But I always man up and wind the window down to bk people doing it.
Of course abuse and confrontation are a possibility, but it really winds me up.
When I'm 70 i'll just tut, roll my eyes, and moan to the papers or on the internet about it.
Basically anyone doing it should be forced to pick up litter for a month by an armed posse whilst wearing the yellow litter lout hi-vis of shame.
They should be tracked back to their home and a refuse lorry should deposit it's entire contents onto their living room carpet.
But I always man up and wind the window down to b
k people doing it. Of course abuse and confrontation are a possibility, but it really winds me up.
When I'm 70 i'll just tut, roll my eyes, and moan to the papers or on the internet about it.
Basically anyone doing it should be forced to pick up litter for a month by an armed posse whilst wearing the yellow litter lout hi-vis of shame.
They should be tracked back to their home and a refuse lorry should deposit it's entire contents onto their living room carpet.
I've never been able to understand people that think its ok to do this, the same as them that spit on the floor - its just dirty and I automatically assume they're dirty people and imagine their house reflects that too.
Judgemental?
yes
Do I care?
No
I had a bit of a rant on our village facebook page not long ago, someone had obviously had an impromptu picnic (doritos, dip, sweets and some fizzy pop) on our local common area and just left the packets and remains laying around which my dog thought was amazing....
I had this idea that on every walk I take my dog on I'd pick up at least 1 bit of rubbish, I suggested that it might be a great idea if all dog walkers did this too.
The amount of rubbish we'd collectively pick up would be pretty good if you think most walk their dogs twice a day.
I had some comments of "I wouldnt have anywhere to put it while walking" or "why should I pick it up if I didnt drop it?"
People are happy to moan but not so happy to help..
Judgemental?
yes
Do I care?
No
I had a bit of a rant on our village facebook page not long ago, someone had obviously had an impromptu picnic (doritos, dip, sweets and some fizzy pop) on our local common area and just left the packets and remains laying around which my dog thought was amazing....
I had this idea that on every walk I take my dog on I'd pick up at least 1 bit of rubbish, I suggested that it might be a great idea if all dog walkers did this too.
The amount of rubbish we'd collectively pick up would be pretty good if you think most walk their dogs twice a day.
I had some comments of "I wouldnt have anywhere to put it while walking" or "why should I pick it up if I didnt drop it?"
People are happy to moan but not so happy to help..
peterperkins said:
But I always man up and wind the window down to bk people doing it.
Of course abuse and confrontation are a possibility, but it really winds me up.
I've been quite vocal in the past, but the risk of confrontation does make me think twice these days. Someone threw their rubbish out of the window in a McDonald's car park, just as I passed by on my way to the bin that was right in front of their car, I picked it up and threw it back into his car, words were exchanged, but it could have turned nasty.k people doing it. Of course abuse and confrontation are a possibility, but it really winds me up.
Some litter will be inadvertent, i.e. a consequence of a large population, people make mistakes, animals get at it etc.
The rest, and greater proportion is avoidable, it is a small percentage of the public that do it, it can only be a small percentage as otherwise we would be up to our necks in our own st if everyone did it.
It seems to be the lazy and stupid that do it, usually the same ones that immediately resort to offers of violence if anyone challenges their behaviour, it is the mark of an utter peasant in my opinion, some are blatant, some are sneakier about it as they know it is wrong. The Taxi Drivers that lurk around the airport are pretty bad for it, wait eating their Greggs feastt hen pitch the lot out in a lay by.
When one person does it, the taboo is broken and more do it, its a mess anyway seems to be the thinking, if there is any.
I bet the same peasants, if asked if their are proud of this country would answer yes, yet still feel the need to disrespect it and the rest of their countrymen by leaving their evidence of their largely terrible diet.
My wifes aunt lives by the sea and the beach at the side it unbelievable, full families of scratters have a picnic and then leave the lot, food wrappers, booze bottles (sometimes smashed onto the rocks), dirty nappies and disposable barbecues, they have nice day on the beach and then show their appreciation by leaving broken glass for the next kids to play on the beach.
You buy something, the packaging is your responsibility until you put it in a bin ffs, its not hard, should be allowable to give those littering a good shoeing, failing that the fines should be massive.
I reckon a campaign based on national pride would help, a bit of Jingoistic rhetoric may work where common sense and respect dont.
Other countries manage, not sure why we have such a contingent of slovenly peasants ?
The rest, and greater proportion is avoidable, it is a small percentage of the public that do it, it can only be a small percentage as otherwise we would be up to our necks in our own s
t if everyone did it.It seems to be the lazy and stupid that do it, usually the same ones that immediately resort to offers of violence if anyone challenges their behaviour, it is the mark of an utter peasant in my opinion, some are blatant, some are sneakier about it as they know it is wrong. The Taxi Drivers that lurk around the airport are pretty bad for it, wait eating their Greggs feastt hen pitch the lot out in a lay by.
When one person does it, the taboo is broken and more do it, its a mess anyway seems to be the thinking, if there is any.
I bet the same peasants, if asked if their are proud of this country would answer yes, yet still feel the need to disrespect it and the rest of their countrymen by leaving their evidence of their largely terrible diet.
My wifes aunt lives by the sea and the beach at the side it unbelievable, full families of scratters have a picnic and then leave the lot, food wrappers, booze bottles (sometimes smashed onto the rocks), dirty nappies and disposable barbecues, they have nice day on the beach and then show their appreciation by leaving broken glass for the next kids to play on the beach.
You buy something, the packaging is your responsibility until you put it in a bin ffs, its not hard, should be allowable to give those littering a good shoeing, failing that the fines should be massive.
I reckon a campaign based on national pride would help, a bit of Jingoistic rhetoric may work where common sense and respect dont.
Other countries manage, not sure why we have such a contingent of slovenly peasants ?
Respect or lack of it is the reason!
The population has lost all respect for the country and so feel no reason to maintain it.
People are all too self centred these days and so don't care if we throw some rubbish on the road as 'it's not my problem' ! They all think somebody else will deal with it!
The population has lost all respect for the country and so feel no reason to maintain it.
People are all too self centred these days and so don't care if we throw some rubbish on the road as 'it's not my problem' ! They all think somebody else will deal with it!
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