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Woody John

759 posts

74 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Keep an eye out for red bull cans or those boost cans. They seem to be tossed everywhere,

It would appear the large energy boost provided is not enough to drop the empty in the bloody bin.

I've started looking at the type of person that buys these drinks in shops, usually two cans at a time, and they are indeed total reprobates.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Smiler. said:
I tend to use the toilet, so no need to pick mine up.
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Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,030 posts

101 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Firstly, any responsible dog owner picks up their dogs st. I do. In fact, last night when I took the boys out I realised I'd forgotten the doggy bags. Inevitably one of them did it's business, so the solution was to pick up a discarded McDonalds bag to discard of it with!

Back to littering. It disgusts me. near us, a few terraces back, there are a load of unkept feral kids. I say kids, some are, some are as old as their 30's. We call them The Bash Street Kids. All of them are littering scum, I always pick up after them, the vicinity where we live is now always litter free.

I strongly believe that these cretins need embarrassing, they understand NOTHING else. The thing is they will push back if you confront them. In recent months I confronted an amoeba about the scatchcard he'd just dropped on the floor right outside the shop door, 2 metres away from a bin. He wasn't happy, all 6 stone nothing of him, arms waving about, getting in my face, offering me outside. Prick. Days later his fat ginger mate was glaring at me in the same shop, the conversation went something like this:
Me: Something you have to say lads?
Him. Yeah, you've been having a go at our kid!!!
Me. Well, he should use the bin instead of dropping his st on the floor.
Him. Would you pick on me if I dropped it?! (he thought his size would intimidate)
Me. If I saw you drop your litter I'd say exactly the same, yes. It disgraceful behaviour.
Him. You're a disgrace.
Me. Is that the best you can think of?
Him (marching out the shop) !!!!!
Me (talking to shop keeper mate) You saw that, right?
Dave. Yes. There's no talking to some people, they've not the brains.

What can be done? Well, fines don't work, they usually will just claim benefits poverty, and not pay. IMO (as per earlier posts) there needs to plain clothed litter wardens strolling around. When someone's spotted it's 10 hours community service, picking litter, whilst wearing a t-shirt stating 'litter bug duty'. If they're caught again it's 50 hours, then 100, then a week at her majesties pleasure. They'd soon learn what's best.

Oh, and signs like this in problem areas (with English friendly wording)




Edited by Fermit and Sexy Sarah on Saturday 15th December 11:52

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,030 posts

101 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Woody John said:
Keep an eye out for red bull cans or those boost cans. They seem to be tossed everywhere,

It would appear the large energy boost provided is not enough to drop the empty in the bloody bin.

I've started looking at the type of person that buys these drinks in shops, usually two cans at a time, and they are indeed total reprobates.
Completely. Around here it's energy drinks (cheap own brands) and scratchcards. The purchases of a neanderthal.

Japveesix

4,482 posts

169 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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RicksAlfas said:
But someone else would pick up the litter and take it back for the deposit!
Like glass bottles back in black and white times.
You think someone will reach down into a hedge or ditch to pick out a manky half-round plastic bottle and take it back (to where exactly?) for the princely sum of 10p?

Seems likely.

I've been working outdoors, in many really beautiful areas, for years now and litter constantly depresses me and it never ceases to amaze me just where people are willing to dump it. I remember shouting at one guy in Westonbirt who chucked his coffee cup under a tree in an area that is stunning and that you only go to because it is beautiful. Why would anyone do that?

Some people are scum and anyone willing to just drop piles of McDonalds rubbish out of their window in the middle of Cheddar Gorge is utter scum and deserves to be shot. It's such a clear indication that the person who does it is horrible and unpleasant in every other aspect of their life too.

CoolHands

18,696 posts

196 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Dog Star

16,145 posts

169 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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soad said:
sparkythecat said:
FredClogs said:
... most notably sis gel packs and wrappers dropped by cyclists
Is that some sort of synthetic padding to try and make them look heterosexual?
It's energy fuel, chap.
Well obviously the gangs of lycra clad middle aged tools aren’t going to have time to stop at a bin. Part of the image - TdF next year, you know.

We have about 50 yards of hedge at the front. The stuff that amazes me is the McD and Costa stuff - we are miles away from these places.

MC Bodge

21,661 posts

176 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Dog Star said:
Well obviously the gangs of lycra clad middle aged tools aren’t going to have time to stop at a bin. Part of the image - TdF next year, you know.

We have about 50 yards of hedge at the front. The stuff that amazes me is the McD and Costa stuff - we are miles away from these places.
People obviously save their litter for your hedge wink

I have never knowingly dropped any sort of litter whilst riding a bike on the road or on a track. If I did, I'd stop to pick it up.

MC Bodge

21,661 posts

176 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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This is not a new phenomenon. I remember the Keep Britain Tidy campaign in the early 80s.



Anecdotally, other developed, wealthy nations don't appear to have the problem of casual littering to the same extent as the UK.

Roadside hedges often have huge amounts of windblown rubbish in them. Almost every lay-by appears to have some sort of littering or fly tipping near it.

It is a real shame that so many people lack the pride, self-respect and forward thinking not to do it. In poor areas, like the one near where we used to live, littering is a real problem and councils give up on it. Fly tipping on the surrounding areas is also bad.

The downsides to "stting on your own doorstep" appears not to have occurred to some.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Dog Star said:
soad said:
sparkythecat said:
FredClogs said:
... most notably sis gel packs and wrappers dropped by cyclists
Is that some sort of synthetic padding to try and make them look heterosexual?
It's energy fuel, chap.
Well obviously the gangs of lycra clad middle aged tools aren’t going to have time to stop at a bin. Part of the image - TdF next year, you know.

We have about 50 yards of hedge at the front. The stuff that amazes me is the McD and Costa stuff - we are miles away from these places.
I am yet to see anything dropped by cyclists, apart from cigarette butts. hehe

When I'm out on my bike in my lycra, I put my energy bar packets in my lycra rear pockets. Lycra makes it easier to get the bars out and the packaging back in. Because it's lycra stuff just slips in and out. I love lycra. Gives your ball sack a sort of camel toe. Only lycra has that effect. Love Lycra.

Fly tipping is bad where I live. Worse than cow tipping. The amount of st I see tipped in the country lanes is terrible.

Turn7

23,630 posts

222 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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MC Bodge said:
This is not a new phenomenon. I remember the Keep Britain Tidy campaign in the early 80s.



Anecdotally, other developed, wealthy nations don't appear to have the problem of casual littering to the same extent as the UK.

Roadside hedges often have huge amounts of windblown rubbish in them. Almost every lay-by appears to have some sort of littering or fly tipping near it.

It is a real shame that so many people lack the pride, self-respect and forward thinking not to do it. In poor areas, like the one near where we used to live, littering is a real problem and councils give up on it. Fly tipping on the surrounding areas is also bad.

The downsides to "stting on your own doorstep" appears not to have occurred to some.
The country is over run by the lower classes who have no thought for anyone but themselves sadly.


Edited by Turn7 on Saturday 15th December 17:32

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,246 posts

201 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Japveesix said:
You think someone will reach down into a hedge or ditch to pick out a manky half-round plastic bottle and take it back (to where exactly?) for the princely sum of 10p?
I would...in fact anyone who actually cares about their environment probably would (I know the majority of people, of which I guess you are one, don't care...but there are people who do)
1] You're doing a good job.
2] There's so many cans and bottles in the hedgerows around my quiet village, I recon I'd make a few quid easily.

tim0409

4,440 posts

160 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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I was in Tokyo last year and was amazed that a) there was no litter, and b) there didn't appear to be any bins around either. I appreciate that their culture is far from perfect, but they do seem to have mutual respect.

People are becoming much more selfish; I would definitely support draconian fines/punishments for this kind of low level nonsense in the hope that it may act as a deterrent, in addition to educating people from an early age that with rights come responsibilities.

RDMcG

19,189 posts

208 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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tim0409 said:
I was in Tokyo last year and was amazed that a) there was no litter, and b) there didn't appear to be any bins around either. I appreciate that their culture is far from perfect, but they do seem to have mutual respect.

People are becoming much more selfish; I would definitely support draconian fines/punishments for this kind of low level nonsense in the hope that it may act as a deterrent, in addition to educating people from an early age that with rights come responsibilities.
Japan is like that all over. In small villages you will see people washing the steps and paths outside their houses every morning. When I get home to Canada it always seems utterly filthy in the cities by comparison.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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I have started picking up litter on my walking route .

I will concentrate on same stuff ,had a bag full of tins the other day, so went to the recycling bins before going home and on

another day will pick up general litter and will bin it before going home.

This week I have also collected hub caps ,an inner wing liner and a plastic wheel arch trim that fell off cars.

Japveesix

4,482 posts

169 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Japveesix said:
You think someone will reach down into a hedge or ditch to pick out a manky half-round plastic bottle and take it back (to where exactly?) for the princely sum of 10p?
I would...in fact anyone who actually cares about their environment probably would (I know the majority of people, of which I guess you are one, don't care...but there are people who do).
Oh sod off you smug bellend. I've literally dedicated years of my life to working in the environment in some of the absolute best, most prize and heavily protected areas of the South West and as such have dealt with and cleaned up more of other people's rubbish in one day than most people would do in a lifetime. I'm utterly sick of strimming through, stepping on or generally finding other people's crap in places it shouldn't be.

However I still don't think 10p is an incentive that means people will risk getting dirty, scratching themselves, getting germs,crap in their clothes or generally going well out of their way to pick up a dirty but bottle full of God knows what. But you disagree and that's fine.

Stan the Bat

8,935 posts

213 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Bit aggressive there mate.

For no reason.

Japveesix

4,482 posts

169 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Stan the Bat said:
Bit aggressive there mate.

For no reason.
You think? I don't appreciate being directly accused of being someone who "doesn't care about the environment" when I'm one a fairly limited number of people who actually decided that caring about the environment and working in that field was a more fulfilling career choice than sitting in a massive corporate office raking in money.

I stand by what I said and don't think the issue is easily solved as he thinks. Equally, and sadly, I don't know what the answer is but heavier policing (even more remote cameras in key spots etc) and heftier fines would be a better deterrent along with better education, like taking school groups out litter picking regularly.

Anyway, I won't derail the thread and it's nice to see that there are people who care and/or actually do something about it as that often doesn't feel the case when you're actually out working in those areas.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,246 posts

201 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Fair play - and as someone who also spends a considerable amount of time maintaining hedgerows, cutting borders, and keeping things looking nice, you'll no doubt appreciate my clumsily worded rant at people who just don't seem to care.

markymarkthree

2,279 posts

172 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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If only McDonalds and drinks manufactures would colour all their packaging green, then when It gets launched out the window into the countryside it would simply blend in and not be noticed.