Do you live in a tourist hot spot?

[Stella Tortoise]

Mexman said:

It's mostly not kids and students doing these jobs though and you haven't repeated any point.
You have made a new point accepting that these types of job are very poorly paid and workers often have no protection from their employers who are generally from other parts of the world.
My wife is 51 yrs old and works in an upmarket Truro hotel.
The hotel she works for is owned by 2 multi millionaire property investing brothers from the home counties who milk all of the business profits back away from the county.
The only money that stays in Cornwall is the very minimal wages that they pay their overworked staff.
Most young Cornish people have no choice but to live with their parents until the day they die, or move out of the County to live and earn up country elsewhere.
Meanwhile, the population of Cornwall is aging with no young blood to replace it, because they simply cannot afford to live or buy or even rent here.
Tourism is important, but so is quality of life to the residents.
Cornwall is not an amusement park that some people seem to think it is, people live, work and survive here through some brutal winters, come summer, yes the influx of visitors is welcome to certain businesses and their income.
Please do visit, please enjoy your holiday and contribute to the local economy, but also appreciate that the people who live and work here need to get around and work also, and keep the economy moving for the other 51 weeks of the year that you are not here.
Certain places are just no go areas in the summer, you cannot get anywhere near them, St Ives, Newquay, Padstow, Mevagissey, etc.
If I need to get to any of these places in the summer, it's just a nightmare, and the parking charges if you can get one are extortionate.
It really is just a little too much at certain times of the year to even bother venturing out of the house.
True of many a tourist destination I'm sure up and down the country, but I suppose because of Cornwall's 'funnel' shape, everyone just gets forced into a smaller and smaller area!

Sounds st.

[Alpacaman]

PurpleTurtle said:

Alpacaman said:

Currently the local Crofters are having problems with tourists who have decided they want to take selfies with the new born lambs that are everywhere at the minute, so they are picking them up, unfortunately the Mum then rejects them as they smell of humans. I believe words have been exchanged, with several visitors being sent packing rather quickly.

Jesus, how stupid can people be? Rhetorical question.

I think what we have to bear in mind is that there is a Venn diagram of 'Tourists' and 'Stupid People' and hopefully the overlap there is small, albeit people will be inclined to equate the two,

There is a feeling on Skye that some people view it as a giant theme park set up entirely for their benefit and if they want to wander up and look in your windows that's fine. You do get people suddenly stop on the single track roads, all the occupants pile out leaving all the doors open, because they have spotted a random sheep or someone cutting peat they want to photograph. They then seem stunned that people behind get annoyed. It is only a tiny proportion of tourists but it does seem to be growing every year.

This early in the season I am still being polite whilst driving, with the occasional shake of the head or muttering under my breath. I suspect by August I shall be leaning out of the window screaming "Get out of the way you fking tts"

[Johnnytheboy]

Alpacaman said:

You do get people suddenly stop on the single track roads, all the occupants pile out leaving all the doors open, because they have spotted a random sheep or someone cutting peat they want to photograph.

In Dorset over the weekend I encountered a car whose occupants appeared to have stopped on a narrow country lane for tea/breakfast.

Not in a passing place, but next to one. Gave me a dirty look as I squeezed past. How dare I use a road as a road?

[Balmoral]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gazettelive.co.uk...

[kowalski655]

Balmoral said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gazettelive.co.uk...

Bloody hell! I ve never seen it THAT busy,& I go every summer

[yellowjack]

Balmoral said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gazettelive.co.uk...

"...people letting there dogs mess everywhere..."

Their. THEIR. THEIR. THEIR.

It's a news article, written by a journalist. If some thicko Whitby resident posts "there" on bloody Facebook, it ought to be bloody-well corrected when quoted into a news article by a professional journalist. And pointed out to the bloody thicko too, so we can all point and laugh until these halfwits start to bother there arses to learn English properly instead of relying on the lack of a wiggly red line and assuming that because it's not an incorrect spelling that everything is OK. It isn't.

Just like my visit to another "tourist hot spot" this past week. I stopped at the Beaulieu Garage to have a look at a Jaguar they had for sale, and there, on the sales details for another classic (MG or TR, I forget which) was the perfectly hideous, and downright offensive when presented by a high-end classic car dealership "highly sort after" on the details sheet. It's "sought after" you fking cretinous wkspangles. This was a dealership selling a row of half a dozen c.£250,000 E-Types, not some Dodgy Derek outfit knocking out Barry'd Civics and Mk III Fiestas on a vacant lot.


Aaaaaaaaargh! This kind of thing, in print, quite literally makes my teeth itch.


Call me a grammar Nazi if you want to, but I used to have a job where spelling mistakes could literally alter the meaning of a consignment note and have serious, possibly deadly consequences, so "getting things right" is kind of an obsession with me. I had to be able to write "Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine" onto shipping forms from memory, because "RDX" or "Explosives" isn't a "proper shipping name" on a dangerous goods form...

[Turn7]

yellowjack said:

Balmoral said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gazettelive.co.uk...

"...people letting there dogs mess everywhere..."

Their. THEIR. THEIR. THEIR.

It's a news article, written by a journalist. If some thicko Whitby resident posts "there" on bloody Facebook, it ought to be bloody-well corrected when quoted into a news article by a professional journalist. And pointed out to the bloody thicko too, so we can all point and laugh until these halfwits start to bother there arses to learn English properly instead of relying on the lack of a wiggly red line and assuming that because it's not an incorrect spelling that everything is OK. It isn't.

Just like my visit to another "tourist hot spot" this past week. I stopped at the Beaulieu Garage to have a look at a Jaguar they had for sale, and there, on the sales details for another classic (MG or TR, I forget which) was the perfectly hideous, and downright offensive when presented by a high-end classic car dealership "highly sort after" on the details sheet. It's "sought after" you fking cretinous wkspangles. This was a dealership selling a row of half a dozen c.£250,000 E-Types, not some Dodgy Derek outfit knocking out Barry'd Civics and Mk III Fiestas on a vacant lot.


Aaaaaaaaargh! This kind of thing, in print, quite literally makes my teeth itch.


Call me a grammar Nazi if you want to, but I used to have a job where spelling mistakes could literally alter the meaning of a consignment note and have serious, possibly deadly consequences, so "getting things right" is kind of an obsession with me. I had to be able to write "Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine" onto shipping forms from memory, because "RDX" or "Explosives" isn't a "proper shipping name" on a dangerous goods form...

I feel your pain Brother.....

[Frank7]

Turn7 said:

yellowjack said:

Balmoral said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gazettelive.co.uk...

"...people letting there dogs mess everywhere..."

Their. THEIR. THEIR. THEIR.

It's a news article, written by a journalist. If some thicko Whitby resident posts "there" on bloody Facebook, it ought to be bloody-well corrected when quoted into a news article by a professional journalist. And pointed out to the bloody thicko too, so we can all point and laugh until these halfwits start to bother there arses to learn English properly instead of relying on the lack of a wiggly red line and assuming that because it's not an incorrect spelling that everything is OK. It isn't.

Just like my visit to another "tourist hot spot" this past week. I stopped at the Beaulieu Garage to have a look at a Jaguar they had for sale, and there, on the sales details for another classic (MG or TR, I forget which) was the perfectly hideous, and downright offensive when presented by a high-end classic car dealership "highly sort after" on the details sheet. It's "sought after" you fking cretinous wkspangles. This was a dealership selling a row of half a dozen c.£250,000 E-Types, not some Dodgy Derek outfit knocking out Barry'd Civics and Mk III Fiestas on a vacant lot.


Aaaaaaaaargh! This kind of thing, in print, quite literally makes my teeth itch.


Call me a grammar Nazi if you want to, but I used to have a job where spelling mistakes could literally alter the meaning of a consignment note and have serious, possibly deadly consequences, so "getting things right" is kind of an obsession with me. I had to be able to write "Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine" onto shipping forms from memory, because "RDX" or "Explosives" isn't a "proper shipping name" on a dangerous goods form...

I feel your pain Brother.....

On the assumption that Turn 7 wasn’t being facetious, then I too feel the pain.
Loose for lose, car’s for cars, should of rather than should have, occasionally lifes for lives, or wifes for wives, i.e. the tribal chief had four wifes, the list goes on,

[J3JCV]

FerrousOxide said:

I'm a Cornishman who happens to work in the tourist industry in our wonderful duchy. Whilst I can see why the influx of tourists can lead to reactions like that, I have to ask - have you ever been on holiday? Like, anywhere? Thought about how the locals regard you?

Sure, sometimes there can a projection of a sense of entitlement from some visitors (or even completely ignoring / disregarding the people working to support their holiday), but then if I was living in London, commuting by tube, breathing filthy air and constantly on-the-go, I might not stop to think that my two weeks of down time actually meant two weeks of stress for the locals.

I know I've been places where I don't know the local traffic lore. I've been spooked (and slow) on account of driving a hire car from the wrong seat and on the wrong side of the road. And sure, it can be frustrating when the commute takes longer than usual (though let's face it... it's still not like any major city), but at the end of the day people pay hundreds of pounds a week to visit our home. Doesn't that make us the privileged ones?

What's happened to old school Cornish hospitality towards "those less fortunate than us"? If it's that bad, maybe Cornwall really isn't for you. Whether you're local or an incomer or emmet (I hate those terms, btw - what's wrong with "person"?), there are plenty of people in the world who'd gladly swap places.

I'm with you here. I live in Falmouth which does get very busy indeed. I admit we tend to reduce our road travel in summer and head to places by boat or foot. I will also say that some of the most vocal complainers I come across through work etc are not actually Cornish anyway and miss the point of living here. One of the real joys of Cornwall is a ingrained slow pace of life and when people (living here or visiting) fight that it spoils everything. I have my moments when I need to go and get an urgent part from the other side of Cornwall but the roads are rammed, so just remind myself that things are better when dealt with dreckley, a word I never use but live by

[The Mad Monk]

yellowjack said:

"...people letting there dogs mess everywhere..."

Their. THEIR. THEIR. THEIR.


Aaaaaaaaargh! This kind of thing, in print, quite literally makes my teeth itch.

Whilst I agree in principle, I feel that you have lost the moral high ground by using swear words in your post. You do know that they are censored, don't you?

Also may I respectfully suggest that your teeth do not 'literally' itch?

[Turn7]

Frank7 said:

Turn7 said:

yellowjack said:

Balmoral said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gazettelive.co.uk...

"...people letting there dogs mess everywhere..."

Their. THEIR. THEIR. THEIR.

It's a news article, written by a journalist. If some thicko Whitby resident posts "there" on bloody Facebook, it ought to be bloody-well corrected when quoted into a news article by a professional journalist. And pointed out to the bloody thicko too, so we can all point and laugh until these halfwits start to bother there arses to learn English properly instead of relying on the lack of a wiggly red line and assuming that because it's not an incorrect spelling that everything is OK. It isn't.

Just like my visit to another "tourist hot spot" this past week. I stopped at the Beaulieu Garage to have a look at a Jaguar they had for sale, and there, on the sales details for another classic (MG or TR, I forget which) was the perfectly hideous, and downright offensive when presented by a high-end classic car dealership "highly sort after" on the details sheet. It's "sought after" you fking cretinous wkspangles. This was a dealership selling a row of half a dozen c.£250,000 E-Types, not some Dodgy Derek outfit knocking out Barry'd Civics and Mk III Fiestas on a vacant lot.


Aaaaaaaaargh! This kind of thing, in print, quite literally makes my teeth itch.


Call me a grammar Nazi if you want to, but I used to have a job where spelling mistakes could literally alter the meaning of a consignment note and have serious, possibly deadly consequences, so "getting things right" is kind of an obsession with me. I had to be able to write "Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine" onto shipping forms from memory, because "RDX" or "Explosives" isn't a "proper shipping name" on a dangerous goods form...

I feel your pain Brother.....

On the assumption that Turn 7 wasn’t being facetious, then I too feel the pain.
Loose for lose, car’s for cars, should of rather than should have, occasionally lifes for lives, or wifes for wives, i.e. the tribal chief had four wifes, the list goes on,

Nope, I really do dislike poor grammer.

[hutchst]

Alpacaman said:

There is a feeling on Skye that some people view it as a giant theme park set up entirely for their benefit and if they want to wander up and look in your windows that's fine. You do get people suddenly stop on the single track roads, all the occupants pile out leaving all the doors open, because they have spotted a random sheep or someone cutting peat they want to photograph. They then seem stunned that people behind get annoyed. It is only a tiny proportion of tourists but it does seem to be growing every year.

This early in the season I am still being polite whilst driving, with the occasional shake of the head or muttering under my breath. I suspect by August I shall be leaning out of the window screaming "Get out of the way you fking tts"

Last time I was on Skye you had to catch a boat. Has it improved since then?

[GetCarter]

227bhp said:

A good topic for conversation, but to get right to the heart of the matter there are now too many people living in the UK.

Population density of 1.4 people per square kilometre here, so not everywhere in the UK is overcrowded.

[PositronicRay]

Alpacaman said:

PurpleTurtle said:

Alpacaman said:

Currently the local Crofters are having problems with tourists who have decided they want to take selfies with the new born lambs that are everywhere at the minute, so they are picking them up, unfortunately the Mum then rejects them as they smell of humans. I believe words have been exchanged, with several visitors being sent packing rather quickly.

Jesus, how stupid can people be? Rhetorical question.

I think what we have to bear in mind is that there is a Venn diagram of 'Tourists' and 'Stupid People' and hopefully the overlap there is small, albeit people will be inclined to equate the two,

There is a feeling on Skye that some people view it as a giant theme park set up entirely for their benefit and if they want to wander up and look in your windows that's fine. You do get people suddenly stop on the single track roads, all the occupants pile out leaving all the doors open, because they have spotted a random sheep or someone cutting peat they want to photograph. They then seem stunned that people behind get annoyed. It is only a tiny proportion of tourists but it does seem to be growing every year.

This early in the season I am still being polite whilst driving, with the occasional shake of the head or muttering under my breath. I suspect by August I shall be leaning out of the window screaming "Get out of the way you fking tts"

On the flip side, as a visitor, we get held up by random locals. Double parking while they nip into the shop/cash point, or engage in conversation through rolled down windows across the street.

[mike74]

PositronicRay said:

On the flip side, as a visitor, we get held up by random locals. Double parking while they nip into the shop/cash point, or engage in conversation through rolled down windows across the street.

It's a bit of a triple wammy where I live in terms of st driving...

-Locals who have lived here all their lives and have no concept of how to drive as they've never experienced 'real' traffic.

-Retirees who have moved here and, well, pensioner drivers... enough said.

-Tourists who bimble around, mostly not knowing where they're going and generally driving like they're in some kind of theme park.

[yellowjack]

The Mad Monk said:

Whilst I agree in principle, I feel that you have lost the moral high ground by using swear words in your post. You do know that they are censored, don't you?

Also may I respectfully suggest that your teeth do not 'literally' itch?

You may suggest anything you wish. Either respectfully, or otherwise. But the fact remains that they are my teeth, and they defiantly ( ) itch when I see terrible use of English by people who are supposedly professionals in a particular field. One that springs to mind was a pub sign on the footway outside said pub which advertised a steak & chips meal for two, with a "bottel" of wine, for £25. Inconceivable to me that someone working in the pub trade could misspell the word "bottle", especially given that attention to detail should be at the very top of one's list when creating advertising matter to attract customers to one's establishment over the choice of going somewhere else.

Errant apostrophe's ( ) have seen me go hungry rather than eat at the offending cafe before now...

[alfie2244]

yellowjack said:

One that springs to mind was a pub sign on the footway outside said pub which advertised a steak & chips meal for two, with a "bottel" of wine, for £25. Inconceivable to me that someone working in the pub trade could misspell the word "bottle", especially given that attention to detail should be at the very top of one's list when creating advertising matter to attract customers to one's establishment over the choice of going somewhere else.

Although it could be a cleva marketing ploy to gain some attention?

[StanleyT]

mike74 said:

PositronicRay said:

On the flip side, as a visitor, we get held up by random locals. Double parking while they nip into the shop/cash point, or engage in conversation through rolled down windows across the street.

It's a bit of a triple wammy where I live in terms of st driving...

-Locals who have lived here all their lives and have no concept of how to drive as they've never experienced 'real' traffic.

-Retirees who have moved here and, well, pensioner drivers... enough said.

-Tourists who bimble around, mostly not knowing where they're going and generally driving like they're in some kind of theme park.

I lived in Carlingford in Ireland for a while (2003 - 2006 ish) when there were rumours of Madonna getting a place there and it started to get all touristy. The small town centre started to get rammed with traffic so they set up a "one way system" and "parking controls".

Which worked a treat. And even better, were only rules for the tourists so us locals could drive whichever way we wanted, and park where we wanted and the traffic problem eased as those not in the know obeyed the rules.

Except me blinking getting ticketed in a variety of English plate cars until the Gardii remembered who I was related to and visiting / living with! Went back to the peninsula recently after 10 years away and blimey, every field has a new build house in it now, must be doing alright in the Free State these days.

[The Mad Monk]

yellowjack said:

The Mad Monk said:

Whilst I agree in principle, I feel that you have lost the moral high ground by using swear words in your post. You do know that they are censored, don't you?

Also may I respectfully suggest that your teeth do not 'literally' itch?

You may suggest anything you wish. Either respectfully, or otherwise. But the fact remains that they are my teeth, and they defiantly ( ) itch when I see terrible use of English by people who are supposedly professionals in a particular field. One that springs to mind was a pub sign on the footway outside said pub which advertised a steak & chips meal for two, with a "bottel" of wine, for £25. Inconceivable to me that someone working in the pub trade could misspell the word "bottle", especially given that attention to detail should be at the very top of one's list when creating advertising matter to attract customers to one's establishment over the choice of going somewhere else.

Errant apostrophe's ( ) have seen me go hungry rather than eat at the offending cafe before now...

What about the swear words?

[Frank7]

yellowjack said:

You may suggest anything you wish. Either respectfully, or otherwise. But the fact remains that they are my teeth, and they defiantly ( ) itch when I see terrible use of English by people who are supposedly professionals in a particular field. One that springs to mind was a pub sign on the footway outside said pub which advertised a steak & chips meal for two, with a "bottel" of wine, for £25. Inconceivable to me that someone working in the pub trade could misspell the word "bottle", especially given that attention to detail should be at the very top of one's list when creating advertising matter to attract customers to one's establishment over the choice of going somewhere else.

Errant apostrophe's ( ) have seen me go hungry rather than eat at the offending cafe before now...

Reminds me of many years back, when my mother was agitating for a new couch.
We were living in Brockley, SE London, and she’d seen an ad in the South London Press, for a sale at a furniture store in Walworth Road, Camberwell.
We turned up at the store on a Saturday afternoon, and sure enough there were a few couches in the window, and inside the store, but unfortunately there was also a laminated sign festooned across the window, SETTE SALE.
My pedantic dad exploded, “If they can’t spell settees, they’re too dumb to deal with, let’s go.”