Cashless society ?

[vikingaero]

Frank7 said:

bad company said:

Robertj21a said:

Not forgetting that all the London buses are cashless.

Can you pay cash for the tube?

You can buy a ticket from a machine at a station, or top up an Oyster Card, but my wife tells me that just buying a ticket is a more expensive way to travel than using Oyster.
I think that you can buy a travel card for various zones at a machine too, but being 199 y.o. I have a Freedom Pass!

A one stop journey for an adult on the tube is £2.40 via contactless/Oyster. With a cash ticket it's £4.90! So TfL clearly only want contactless.

I'm happy to pay cash for low value items in small shops. If I order takeaway I call them direct rather than use Just Eat so they save their 17-33%.

[okgo]

captain_cynic said:

Yes. At any ticket machine.

Which is why London Busses are reporting their fifth YoY drop in ridership whilst the ridership on TFL in general is increasing.

I had to go into London earlier this week... It was easier to walk 1.5 miles than catch a bus.

lol.

Who the fk pays cash for a TFL ticket of any kind? You'd have to be from another century.

I'd imagine cycling increases has a lot to do with bus decline.

[bad company]

okgo said:

lol.

Who the fk pays cash for a TFL ticket of any kind? You'd have to be from another century.

I'd imagine cycling increases has a lot to do with bus decline.

Yes, I always use cards but Mrs BC and I are just back from Germany where cash is still very much King.

[V8covin]

okgo said:

lol.

Who the fk pays cash for a TFL ticket of any kind? You'd have to be from another century.

I'd imagine cycling increases has a lot to do with bus decline.

What about tourists ? I'd imagine some would use cash if they don't know how the system works.

[okgo]

bad company said:

Yes, I always use cards but Mrs BC and I are just back from Germany where cash is still very much King.

Because they're weird tin foil hat wearers. Bizarre place.

[vikingaero]

bad company said:

okgo said:

lol.

Who the fk pays cash for a TFL ticket of any kind? You'd have to be from another century.

I'd imagine cycling increases has a lot to do with bus decline.

Yes, I always use cards but Mrs BC and I are just back from Germany where cash is still very much King.

That's exactly what I said. Another First World Country where cash rules over contactless. And there are those on here who are from "another century" and are too small minded to accept other peoples choices.

[okgo]

vikingaero said:

That's exactly what I said. Another First World Country where cash rules over contactless. And there are those on here who are from "another century" and are too small minded to accept other peoples choices.

They only do it because they're weird about their personal data. It's a deeply odd place vs the rest of europe.

[okgo]

V8covin said:

What about tourists ? I'd imagine some would use cash if they don't know how the system works.

You can still use your card to buy a physical ticket.

[V8covin]

okgo said:

You can still use your card to buy a physical ticket.

Not everyone has a card,not everyone has a bank account

[Robertj21a]

V8covin said:

okgo said:

You can still use your card to buy a physical ticket.

Not everyone has a card,not everyone has a bank account

Well not everyone is going to get very far then are they

[33q]

Birds (Nottingham) turned away a 94 year old buying bread and potted meat etc. No bank account so only had cash.

Now they have sacked an employee for buying customers shopping on their own card and putting the cash in their purse. There is a campaign to get her reinstated etc

See BBC for link...
I can’t get it to work

[Lemming Train]

33q said:

Birds (Nottingham) turned away a 94 year old buying bread and potted meat etc. No bank account so only had cash.

Now they have sacked an employee for buying customers shopping on their own card and putting the cash in their purse. There is a campaign to get her reinstated etc

See BBC for link...
I can’t get it to work

This? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamsh...

"We wish her all the best in the new role."

I hope they go bankrupt.

[craigjm]

Robertj21a said:

V8covin said:

okgo said:

You can still use your card to buy a physical ticket.

Not everyone has a card,not everyone has a bank account

Well not everyone is going to get very far then are they

Latest figures show that for one reason or another 1.5m of the adult population of the U.K. does not have a bank account

[Robertj21a]

craigjm said:

Robertj21a said:

V8covin said:

okgo said:

You can still use your card to buy a physical ticket.

Not everyone has a card,not everyone has a bank account

Well not everyone is going to get very far then are they

Latest figures show that for one reason or another 1.5m of the adult population of the U.K. does not have a bank account

Virtually all of those could have a bank account if they wanted to. Their option.

[V8covin]

Robertj21a said:

Virtually all of those could have a bank account if they wanted to. Their option.

That's some assumption

[PF62]

Lemming Train said:

33q said:

Birds (Nottingham) turned away a 94 year old buying bread and potted meat etc. No bank account so only had cash.

Now they have sacked an employee for buying customers shopping on their own card and putting the cash in their purse. There is a campaign to get her reinstated etc

See BBC for link...
I can’t get it to work

This? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamsh...

"We wish her all the best in the new role."

I hope they go bankrupt.

Possibly more to it than has been published -

CEO Lesley Bird said said:

"what Ms Metcalfe did broke both their Covid-19 rules and their company regulations.

"A lot of our customer base are the elderly - many of them vulnerable - and it is our responsibility to keep them, and our staff, safe."

So who complained? The family member / neighbour, / friend, etc. who heard about what was going on and was worried granny was handing over £20 in cash for a loaf of bread and getting bamboozled by the money shuffle and getting 50p in change.

[C n C]

Athlon said:

RNLI - one TTD machine will help but it is not the answer. I believe they are too expensive to just get thousands of them, most will be loaned from stores for a specific collection and a few branches will get one to keep as they are busy.

Cashless will be a really difficult thing for us as volunteer fundraisers to figure out how to deal with but we must try and I am sure we will work it out, blimey, if the crews can go out in those storms to save a life then I/we as a branch have a duty to try and keep them safe.

Many small organisations (such as our cricket club) are considering going cashless, and we really do not have a lot of money.

Option we're thinking about is a Square card reader which links to a smartphone and enables receipt of chip and pin, contactless, ApplePay, or Google payments which then go direct to the bank account set up in the app (so not a bank account connected to the phone owner). The app is free and the contactless reader costs £19. It charges via USB and will last all day on a single charge.

10 x £2 donations and you're collecting profitably.

The only negative is that there is a commission which I believe is 1.75% for all payments, but I'm guessing paying that is a lot better than not being able to take card and contactless donations.

[V8covin]

C n C said:

Many small organisations (such as our cricket club) are considering going cashless, and we really do not have a lot of money.

Option we're thinking about is a Square card reader which links to a smartphone and enables receipt of chip and pin, contactless, ApplePay, or Google payments which then go direct to the bank account set up in the app (so not a bank account connected to the phone owner). The app is free and the contactless reader costs £19. It charges via USB and will last all day on a single charge.

10 x £2 donations and you're collecting profitably.

The only negative is that there is a commission which I believe is 1.75% for all payments, but I'm guessing paying that is a lot better than not being able to take card and contactless donations.

Sum up is a similar card reader,they charge 1.69% at present

[Lemming Train]

PF62 said:

So who complained? The family member / neighbour, / friend, etc. who heard about what was going on and was worried granny was handing over £20 in cash for a loaf of bread and getting bamboozled by the money shuffle and getting 50p in change.

That is a ridiculous accusation and you know it. Highly unlikely given that's she 60 and worked there for 40 years. The owner should have given her a promotion not sacked her. Hopefully the long-standing and loyal customers will vote with their feet and the business will go bust, exactly as they deserve.

[craigjm]

Robertj21a said:

Virtually all of those could have a bank account if they wanted to. Their option.

Absolute tosh.